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Mar 11, 2026 1 hr 2 min

José Gonzáles

from Lost And Sound Hosted by Paul Hanford

José Gonzáles makes quiet music full of loud ideas. I sat down with him in person to trace his journey from playing in hardcore punk bands to the intimate arpeggios that turned Veneer and Heartbeats into global touchstones. Jose opens up about writing “humble accusations,” using minimal sound to deliver maximal ideas, and how a scientist’s method—shaped by his biochemistry background—helps him build tension, release, and meaning inside quiet music. It all gets a bit Dawkins: Jose unpacks meme complexes, the cultural building blocks that replicate from brain to brain, and shows how his work recombines influences from Latin America, Sweden, and shelves of philosophy and science audiobooks. We explore the thread that runs from early relationship sketches to pointed critiques of dogma, moral relativism, and “doomsday dudes,” all while keeping the songs spacious enough to live at dinner tables and in headphones after midnight. We talk about how on his new album – Against the Dying Light, José connects Enlightenment values—reason, empiricism, individual liberty—to today’s urgent questions around AI, engineered risks, and human flourishing. He celebrates breakthroughs like AlphaFold while calling for alignment, transparency, and calm public reasoning. The result is a rare balance: optimism without naivety, warning without hysteria, and art that invites you to think without telling you what to think. I've re-activated the show's Substack newsletter. Give it a follow for extra bits about the guests, thoughts on music culture and creativity and whatever else. Nothing is behind a paywall yet, so it's a great time to get on board. If you enjoy Lost and Sound and want to help keep it thriving, the best way to support is simple: subscribe, leave a rating, and write a quick review on your favourite podcast platform. It really helps others find the show. You can do that here on Apple Podcasts or wherever you like to listen. José Gonzáles on Instagram: www.instagram.com/jose.gonz.music José Gonzáles on Bandcamp: https://josgonzlez.bandcamp.com/album/against-the-dying-of-the-light Huge thanks to Audio-Technica – makers of beautifully engineered audio gear and sponsors of Lost and Sound. Check them out here: Audio-Technica My book Coming To Berlin is a journey through the city’s creative underground, and is available via Velocity Press. You can also follow me on Instagram at @paulhanford for behind-the-scenes bits, guest updates, and whatever else is bubbling up. Support the show

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José Gonzáles makes quiet music full of loud ideas. I sat down with him in person to trace his journey from playing in hardcore punk bands to the intimate arpeggios that turned Veneer and Heartbeats into global touchstones. Jose opens up about writing “humble accusations,” using minimal sound to deliver maximal ideas, and how a scientist’s method—shaped by his biochemistry background—helps him build tension, release, and meaning inside quiet music. It all gets a bit Dawkins: Jose unpacks meme...

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José Gonzáles

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  1. 0:00 Setting The Stage In Berlin
  2. 2:10 Why Jose Fits Underground Culture
  3. 5:38 Sponsor Message: Audio-Technica
  4. 6:09 Press Days And Lyric Ideas
  5. 8:20 From Enigmas To Conversation Starters
  6. 10:25 Delivering “Humble Accusations”
  7. 12:16 From Hardcore To Acoustic
  8. 15:03 Nostalgia And Scene Revivals
  9. 17:28 Politics At Home, Ethics In Lyrics
  10. 21:06 Memes, Meme Complexes, And Songs
  11. 26:25 Method, Science, And Songcraft
  12. 28:17 Veneer, Heartbeats, And A Moment
  13. 30:48 The Art Of Choosing Covers
  14. 33:46 Sound Consistency And Friction
  15. 36:05 Swedish Lyrics, Moral Gymnastics
  16. 38:05 Against The Dying Light Explained
  17. 41:25 Existential Risk And AI
  18. 45:12 Jobs, Deepfakes, And Value
  19. 47:42 Tech As Dual-Use, Human Flourishing
  20. 50:12 Doomsday Dudes And Nuance
  21. 53:11 Closing Thoughts And Credits

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