Josh Bandoch - How to Get What You Want

Illinois Policy head of policy and communications expert Josh Bandoch joins us this week to discuss his new book How to Get What You Want.  Tim and Matt discuss the communications challenges facing national and state leaders in some of our recent crisis such as the conflict in Iran and explore how conservatives can frame the policy debate to win in blue states.  They also discuss the importance of free marketeers leaning into the debate over how to alleviate poverty and how communicating well can show that big government policies pushed in states like California and Illinois are the direct cause of the cost of living challenges faced by poor and working class Americans.