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Josh Wolf, Jacob Wolf, and The Woodsman

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Father and Son Comedians Josh and Jacob Wolf join Jason and Tully to discuss Weed confession, Learning self defense, Getting beaten by lady, Jacob's start on Stand Up, Comedian struggles, Josh's worst bomb, Tully's comedy time, Storytelling in Josh's comedy, Parenting, Marlboro miles, Sharing hotel rooms with dad, The Woodsman movie, Buttholes can be pulled out, Josh/Jacob never talk sex, Grieving, Tough guys and crying, Parents don't know parenting, and Jacob: Coming out of dad's shadow If you want a pair Neven sunglasses with 35% off any one regular pair or if you want a buy 1 get any 2 free deal Check out www.NevenEyewear.com/discount/ellis  Visit BetterHelp.com/ELLIS today to get 10% off your first month. Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code ELLIS at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That's BlueChew.com, promo code ELLIS to receive your first month FREE. Jason’s Dates at thejasonellis.com Sponsor The Jason Ellis Show: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/jasonellis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Father and Son Comedians Josh and Jacob Wolf join Jason and Tully to discuss Weed confession, Learning self defense, Getting beaten by lady, Jacob's start on Stand Up, Comedian struggles, Josh's worst bomb, Tully's comedy time, Storytelling in Josh's comedy, Parenting, Marlboro miles, Sharing hotel rooms with dad, The Woodsman movie, Buttholes can be pulled out, Josh/Jacob never talk sex, Grieving, Tough guys and crying, Parents don't know parenting, and Jacob: Coming out of dad's shadow If you want a pair Neven sunglasses with 35% off any one regular pair or if you want a buy 1 get any 2 free deal Check out www.NevenEyewear.com/discount/ellis  Visit BetterHelp.com/ELLIS today to get 10% off your first month. Try BlueChew FREE when you use our promo code ELLIS at checkout--just pay $5 shipping. That's BlueChew.com, promo code ELLIS to receive your first month FREE. Jason’s Dates at thejasonellis.com Sponsor The Jason Ellis Show: https://public.liveread.io/media-kit/jasonellis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The buffets in Vegas used to be a safe. Wait, I'm so confused, but you're not going to eat anything from it. I'll eat the meat. Okay, how cutthroat are you?

Because I've had eggs a month ago in a hotel and they cooked it in something else and it... Oh, I'm cutthroat. So now I do not... Oh, I mean, are your shits better?

Oh yeah. Not in day. Yeah, I had hemorrhoids and now I don't. No dude, and your poop comes out like it's on a water slide.

It's like, whee! It's crazy. There's no push. And when you've had those problems and then they're gone, you don't forget it quickly.

No. Like every shit I take, I go, oh hell yeah. Okay, off I go again. Yeah.

Not like, wasn't that the easiest thing to do? Yeah. Or no matter how many times I wipe, it just never came clean. Yeah, wow.

Yeah. Let's not talk about that anymore. You broke my fan. Me?

It was the wolf boys I bet. Oh! John Jacob Wolf. I was like, is there a new gang in town that's raking myself?

I like how you said it like you were like a 40s detective. It was a wolf gang. Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna take it down power for that.

See? Where's my tummy gang? Man. Oh wait.

Nailed it. Problem created and problem solved. Well that feels pretty good actually. Now your cat did not run.

Yeah, he likes you. He feels safe. Yeah. It's probably because you're a dad.

Right? That's good to know. Oh! You're scratching post day.

Ha ha ha ha. You do that with your son here too. With a heart on joke? Yeah.

I guess you guys do stay together. You don't podcast together. He's heard it all. Yeah.

If you think that the heart on jokes are the line, you're way off. I didn't ask you a question about that because my son is about to be 12 and a half and we just sort of like without planning to jump in the deep end where we like swear in front of each other and we watch like filthy comedy and seriously considering not pouring out but I'm seriously considering sending him the Lego Dicks that we checked out with with with Annie Letterman. Do you remember? Can you say that?

It doesn't really work. There's no say. That's a pretty low role that. You think being a comedian you kind of had no choice but to get into that a little bit earlier than you might have liked too.

I feel like it was it was pretty it was pretty tame up until I was probably about 16 or 17. All right. And then it started to get a little looser around the house and sort of swear a little bit. We both found out that we you know, smoked weed on our silent time so like.

Wait, you you got busted? You didn't tell him you were starting smoking? You already told me. I told him Before you did it ever or you didn't tell him?

No, no. No. No two years after. Oh, I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I started smoking. That's your voice. Well, go to do this.

And I said, I said, I said, I said, I go, okay, and he goes, I just want you to know that I smoke weed. All right. And I said, cool. Can we talk about this when I'm not hot?

Because I always smoke weed before I walk the dog. Did you know your dad smoked weed? No, we actually coincidentally both found out that we smoked weed at the same time. So that conversation worked out.

Listen, you hit it. I got to tell you it was gradual, but I took him to movies like Tropic Thunder when I was 13 and things like that. You know what? I was never concerned about really sex or comedy.

I was trying to keep my way from violence. You know what? Sex is something that's everything's, it affects all of us. Violence you mean?

Violent movies. You know what I mean? Anything like that. I would rather have him watch things that are funny.

Like Tropic Thunder is not violent? I was definitely comedy. It's comical violence. No, what about boxing and MMA and stuff?

Yeah, that's different. I did sport. Yeah, I did martial arts, I did like prom, prom, no. So like, I was kind of invested in that area for a little while.

He used to be able to, when he was taking Taekwondo, he could walk into the city. He would just slide down to the mall. In either way, it was pretty crazy. So that means you could do Axe kicks?

Yeah, I could do, I mean, I'm gonna say that's the most flexible nine-year-old boy you've ever seen. If you've always been told. Okay. Two, please.

Come on. Leave that for a time. Have you always been a tall kid? Yeah, I mean, I was taller like growing up like middle school on entry and I got to high school and I was kind of short compared to everybody else.

But then my freshman year I started at 5'9 and then my sophomore year I started at 6'1". So I had a huge growth spurt for some odd reason. Why don't you get into self-defense? Growing up I was picked on a lot.

So you got bullies? Oh, I had bullies all throughout elementary, middle school, high school. It was just a confidence thing. It's funny I was kind of good for you.

A bully. Because my son got bullies and he got into boxing and all that stuff. Absolutely. And I don't think he was interested in it because I've always boxed into a little kid and then all of a sudden it was like, Dad, I'm thinking about it and I was like, yeah, man, I've tried to hold mid-s for you since you were like four years old and now he's training with all my trainers and I spar with him last night.

He beat up in finance. I moved where Ian's never fought before and I was like, like, he comes to spar with me and of course Ian smokes four cigarettes in his car from here to the gym. And he gets to the gym and my coach goes, hey man, did you just smoke a cigarette before you got it? And he's like, yeah, well yeah.

In boxing that's not good. You know, we at the gym that are sparring go, what's that like smoking a cigarette on the way to sparring? Yeah. Because he doesn't know Ian and I move around with him and I go, come on man, he's okay and he's weird about it and he hit me.

I was like, it's not enough. You can do it, it's okay. And then I was like, switch partners and I can't give Ian to anybody else in the gym. Right.

Except my son. And I go, Tiger. He's like, come on. And I'm like, dude, trust me.

Like because Tiger's been training for a couple of years now and he will beat the shit out of Ian. So he took it easy over and he goes, how am I doing? And Tiger goes, try not to run away every time I go to punch. And he goes, is that what I'm doing?

And he's like, yeah. You know, I took a couple of guys for a little while and took a sparring class and what? He's like, I'm sorry, I don't know. I've always made fun of it.

Not actually done the research, but there's eye gouges and stuff or not. So you keep the real eye gougy stuff out of there, but it's just basically MMA sparring. Okay. And so the sparring class had three guys and three girls.

And this is back when we were up here. And one of the women that was in the class is expert level. And I was a little naive and the guy was like, I'm going to set you two up to spar together. And I was like, yeah, but she's a woman.

And he was like, it's all right. And I turned to her and I go, hey, I'm not going to, I'm not going to really hit you. And she goes, oh, I know. Now, I thought she was being, she knew that I was trying to be a gentleman, what she meant was you're never going to touch me.

It was the first time anyone had ever leg kicked me. Yeah. Yo, dude. So.

And she dropped the first one. I was like, Oh, in the second one, I was like, okay. And then the third one, I tried to drop my hand and put she knew it in the head. She knocked my mouthpiece clear across the room.

Yeah. That's so hard. Yeah. Yeah.

I organized them to immediately. Yeah. That's very cool. It was now he and I have sparred three times.

That's terrible. Once when he was 14 and I won and the other two times I didn't really win. I kicked your ass. You told me when you lose.

I can. Maybe I didn't lose a fight, but I didn't lose the whole thing. This is my thing. But if you lost, you lost.

That's kind of how it goes. Yeah, but he was hurt outside with the same one. Here's what I want to happen next to. I let's move on to the one you did lose.

Then you won two after that. He did see how dad admits it. Oh, it's on footage. She can't not admit it.

You need to learn how to admit it. You lost the first one. Yeah, admit it. You lost.

Wow. Also want to give him the satisfaction. Yeah, no, I've noticed that. Yeah.

Even though you won the last two, you don't even give him one. Can I tell you how out of shape I was for the last one? I thought I was in good shape. Can I tell you?

No, no, no, no, no. I was I came in thinking, Oh, I'm I'm going to, but what I learned real quick is an in shape 52 year old is not as in good a shape as an out of shape 25 year old. Yeah. And so that's basically what I learned that day.

I feel much better. Now, I after the first kind of jump around, I was like, you know what, it's usually three minute rounds in one rest. We went one minute round in three minute rest and I was still. I was doing what you were doing after each round.

I was sitting there bouncing on the corner like keep myself. Sounds like you guys are right for a rematch. No, no, no, no, no. Oh, he doesn't want another rematch.

No, no, no, no. He was so much fitter now. He was just saying before we started rolling. He did say it was pretty fast.

When we when we so much stronger than you ever been in the line. I mean, I'm a firefighter. I'm going to be in the best shape of my life. By the time you get this one, you want to know what I did?

Nothing for four months, specifically on purpose to prove a point. Well, we got there and I proved it very easily. Wow, you really need to beat your son up. Yeah, next time.

It's going to be different. Yeah, I'm going to have to maybe, you know, what's that old boxing match where they, you know, they used to put things on their gloves so they can rub it in the face. It was one time and I don't know. It was true.

It was Muhammad Ali. No, no, no, it was like Alexis, I go, oh, it's probably old shit. Oh, there's more than one. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. That makes sense. I'm going to be a little bit too quick now.

He's too tall. Yeah, he's got to reach. Yeah, he's definitely got to reach on me. And I just get punched in the face.

But there's a way. Maybe I'll take a couple lessons with you. I beat up like a six foot five guy last night. You got to jab, but if you get on the inside of that jab, work the body, stay close to him.

They break. Do you know that at year when he's six five, you get inside your eating at least one or two? Immediately. Well, that's the thing.

I can take a shot. I don't, I'm not proud of it anymore. There used to be a time where I was like, you get me out here, you're going to lose this contest. Because I hit hard and I can take a shot.

Now, I got footwork. I got head movement. So like you might brush me or you might even catch me one time, but it's not going to stop me from getting inside. And when I get inside, it's over.

Sure. Quick punches to the body. I just stay on you. And you every, I watch your feet.

So when you try to cut an angle to get out, I trap you. So you can't get out. And I just key, pitter, patter, pitter, patter. And then when there's an opening, I hit you hard.

Why do you think like, so you love, you love fighting them. Yeah. Do you love fighting on the street? But you don't.

I mean like the in the ring. Yeah, I love it. But I think that there is any kind of equivalency to mentally to getting ready for that kind of stuff and stand up. Exactly.

That's why I love comedy so much. Because comedy, if you do bad, you don't have to go to hospital. You just feel sad for a little bit. Yeah, that's true.

Like real sad, but it's not, I don't wake up. Like I got to go to the ER. I got to do rehab. I got to like get stitches or get all this other stuff that comes with it.

But it's still the nerves, the sharpness, the intensity, like the meaning. Like it means so much. Yeah. You know, and it's like even if it's firing on a Tuesday, like the guy's like, hey man, you want to go on to my, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I'm like, wow, this guy's same weight as me and like a foot higher than me. Like, and he's younger. He looks like a real fit guy. He's got very muscular shaped body.

And I'm like, he's probably quicker than you two. And I'm like, so be ready, you know? And then that clicks in. I've always had that thing where I can poke a face at where it's like, yeah, man, we're casual, but I'm not.

So it's going to get you. It's like figuring it out. To me, comedy is so much about, and I think all art, but comedy especially because he's starting to do stand up now. He tours with me now, right?

I've seen him. And so I try to tell him that there's no failing. It's like, come think of comedy as a puzzle, right? Or failure, that means you got to try another piece.

And so you can't look at comedy like a puzzle also. You just got to keep putting the pieces in until you find the right one to fit. The biggest one to me is confidence. I've come into comedy very insecure.

I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. I've been good at a bunch of stuff, but this is a whole new thing to me. And when I come in, I'm like, I just don't want to be a dick. I don't want to be annoying.

I don't want people to think, oh, you think you're some like radio skateboard jerk off. Like, you want a free ride. I don't want any of that. Like, I want to pay my dues in this.

So I think I came in pretty insecure and I'm like, get your stuff down. I'm like, you know, like, and I get tense about it. The better I do, the more I do it, lately I find like, instead of my set, I'm like mixing it with the crowd. And I'm like, wait, I didn't tell myself when I came out here to do like 10 minutes of crowd work, but I just end up doing it because I come up knowing I got this.

Like, I'm not saying I'm hot shit. I'm just saying that I know that like, if somebody says something or he looks funny or he's got some shoes on it, I'm off I go. And I believe in it enough to keep going. I think there was a time there I'd be like, I could, but I don't want to risk it.

And I don't want to remember my set. So like, now I've noticed them lately. I barely get to my set because I'll see something and somebody will say something and I'm like, this is more fun because I've done my routine. And you know what else is, is great about that about going into something where you're like, I don't know if I'm confident enough to do it.

And then you do it and then you wake up the next day and you're like, I'm still live. Everything's still good. You all, it almost makes you build you stronger. Yeah, for sure.

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He didn't know he was performing because I didn't want him thinking about it and psyching himself up. He had been on stage with me before doing a Q&A and is great and very natural. But if I told him, hey, you're doing stand up this week. You already knew he could do it.

And so five minutes before the set, I was like, hey, it says in the contract that you're hosting this week. So get ready. And he was like, wait a minute, get your shit together. That's so awesome for both of you.

Like, so had to be the dad and go, hey, man, you're up and you know this is your game, this is your world. And you've seen him, you know, he can do it. And you're giving him that option. You're giving him that opportunity.

And he gets to do it. And now you're on the road like, you're doing it. Yeah, I have that kind of same feeling that you said where it's like a free pass into this. It's like, I'm not going to lie.

I definitely started on third base having him being my dad being a comic. But I had that same feeling where it's like very insecure going because it's nothing I've practiced, nothing I've really done. And the more and more I do it, the more confident I get. But I'm also trying to do the same thing with paying my dues right now.

We live in Vegas. So I'm going to open mics two, three times a week because I'm just going out there. I want to meet the comics in my community. I want to put in that extra work because and try new jokes and, you know, eat a couple bags of dicks on stage where no one's going to laugh.

And it happened one weekend, three nights in a row. I had dicks, three straight sets. And I was like, you know, I don't actually know if I'm good at this. Maybe that expectation of maybe it's just because I'm Joshua Son.

I'm good at this. And then we did his residency, we did his residency show Monday night that following Monday. And I went up there and I was like, no, I got this. I know I'm good at this.

And I'm and I killed. And I was like, yeah, okay. Let me just say though, dude, in your defense about starting on third base, you have, and so you get a lot of opportunities. He gets between the Monday night residency show and our end weekend.

He gets an hour and 15 minutes on stage week. That's good. But and so that's he does start on third base and he is in front of people who know who he is. And that's a huge thing to me.

If you're not good, that's right. That's a thing. He's not carrying it. And they expect him to be funnier than he possibly could be.

He's only a year in, but they expect him. So and you know what else? He doesn't get to develop anonymity. He doesn't get to suck when nobody sees him.

He sucks, but what she doesn't, thank God, but he his worst times is in front of sold out shows. He doesn't get to be open mic guy and learn. He's people leave there going to get jiggle, whatever, and they're making a judgment on a month, a year in which none of us, well, you do, you have to do that. But most of us got to really figure out who we were going to be without anybody knowing us.

Dude, the best compliment I got was the other day, Hermose was on the show and he was like, you know, you're doing it the right way. That's why everybody, the comedy still likes you. And I was like, you're doing it. That's all I wanted.

You are doing it. I'm in the way of my back. I'm saying, I just wanted you guys to duck me like you just dickhead. I want to be that guy.

I've been in other things and worked my way up and I know how we all doesn't matter if it's comedy, skateboarding, it's buzzable, anything. If you come in claiming and swinging off someone's nuts, all the people that paid their dues, it's just instinct. I'm like, fuck this guy. You know, like, and I don't want to be that guy.

I don't want to do that. And comedy, we all know what it takes to get to a certain level and the bags of dicks you have to eat repeatedly. You've been, I don't know how many times, but you've probably been knocked down on stage where you're like, am I supposed to be up here? This was not just bad.

It was like, I want to go crawl in a fucking hole. Yeah, I've told the story. There was times where I lived in Hermosa and I drove like 40 to 50 minutes to hahaz. And I did a set and it was, people hated me.

They didn't not laugh. They hated me. Like, and I think I had gone for myself. It's like, well, he looks like he could defend himself.

So I won't beat him up in the pot. But I hate that guy. And then I drove home and then I got home and like nobody was there. And I just sat in my couch and I was like, I hate my dad.

I hate myself. But it also, I woke up in the morning thinking, I'll just sleep it off. And I woke up and was like, oh, I still hate me. And I'm like, but then I was like, I know what this is.

You love it. Because you wouldn't care. You care so much that you're going to figure it out. My worst bomb ever.

The fourth time I was ever on stage. I know you remember it. Oh dude. The fourth time I was ever on stage.

Well, refresh everybody's memory. What you first three shows were with Sam Kinison. The fourth one was that's the worst bomb ever. All right.

Have I told you that story? A while back. The first time I was ever on stage, I opened for Kinison. No pressure.

But here's the thing. I just went to comedy competition at a bar where my friends were there. And then when, and, and, um, Kinison's opener is dad passed away on the way to San Antonio. So when they called and was like, hey, whoever won that competition, tell him he's opening for Sam.

And you know the first thing I thought was this comedy shit's easy. Yeah. Am I already winning competitions and opening for Kinison? Wow, you are set up.

I should probably quit school. And by the way, this will tell you, this is what I wore. This will tell you how I was not ready. This was the 90s.

I was wearing acid wash jeans with penny loafers. I had one of those black belts that had the silver tip. Oh, you came in swinging. Oh, you're running for Johnny Carson to wave you over the desk.

I had a black, I had a blue blockbuster button down shirt, basically tucked into the jeans. But because it was Kinison, I was trying to rock and roll it up. I had a motorcycle jacket, ponytail, bangs. Oh, wow.

He's going to photo with that. Banks inside. I don't use it. Don't show me that.

I thought you did. Don't show me that. Make the list presents. It was so bad.

I didn't know what to say that. They started heckling me. First of all, they told Bill, his manager was like, listen, I just need you to do 20 up front. I had only done three minutes.

Wait. So, but so they started heckling me before I got to the mic. And by the time they were done heckling me four minutes in, they were just talking to each other. But I was out of material.

So as people were walking in late to see Kinison, I was like, hey, you didn't hear my jokes. I was repeating my act. I did my act like four times. And did anybody get more angry for that?

No, because they weren't listening. They were just talking to each other. They had already they were literally turned to each other talking. What I didn't know was that there was going to be a second show.

And I also didn't know that Sam was going to be so fucked up that Bill was like, hey, I might need you to stretch and do like five, 10 extra minutes. I'm like, for. Like, did you have to do five or? Yeah, I did seven more minutes.

I did 27 minutes. Which means he did his set five more times. Did you? I did my act a bunch.

I ended up just started talking straight. No, it was the worst. But I remember that. I remember driving home.

I remember my girlfriend at the time saying to me. And she basically was like, well, he must be. You got that out of your system. So you're going to basically, she was like, you're quitting, right?

And I said, I'm not going out like that. I might quit eventually. But that's not the last time I'm ever going to be on stage. But but a good bomb.

That's why when people are like, what's the give me a secret to getting on stage? You got to stand up. You got to get on stage and you got to eat shit a couple times. And if you still want to get on stage, I've noticed that with people, I got like only fans, friends that I used to work with, so to speak, that are like, yeah, I'm going to be, I'm going to get into comedy.

And I'm like, yeah, cool. Are you getting up? Not yet. And I'm like, well, then you're not getting into comedy.

And they're like, well, you know, I've been writing some stuff. And I'm like, no, get up. Like, and I've been writing stuff for a couple of years. I'm like, oh my God, like, get up.

And by the way, I guarantee you, even without saying it sucks. It's the worst thing that anybody's ever written. But you know, you find out that it sucks for yourself is to get on stage and try it. It's like they don't believe me.

But even if you have absolutely nothing and you get up right now versus your two years of writing, it's going to be better for you. You come across me as a good joke writer. Yeah, I often mistakenly give people that impression. Yeah.

Have you ever got on stage? I've actually done shows with you. I think so. I remember that.

Yeah. You know what? The thing was, I like doing it. I really like doing it.

I feel like I have a lot of unfinished business there. But I have little kids. And it's just, it was very, very, very hard for me to do one show a week and one show a week I found. I liken to it.

It was like, you don't go to the boxing gym, you just show up and spark. You just show up and get your ass kicked and then you wait seven days and you have no muscle memory whatsoever and you get your ass kicked all over again. And I was like, I'm kind of like an impediment to my family just doing it one night a week and I'm getting fucking nowhere here. I have no idea where life is going to take me.

I mean, to an extent I do a lot of like solo podcasting and it's not the same. But I do feel like I get on a microphone and I riff almost every single day. That's okay. If the opportunity is there, if the window is there, when the kids fuck off a little bit and don't want to talk to me, I would love to do it.

But only, but only if I can see what you say, I honestly. Yeah, that's coming. Also because I was trying in LA and some doors open for me because I used to be on the radio, but not that many. And this is simply always says no matter where you are, David Spade's playing somewhere else in town.

It's not the easiest town. I always said that too. If we happen to do a radio show in San Antonio, I probably would head a night at this club and night at that club. When you say an hour and 15 a week, that sounds so crazy.

That's a dream for me. If somebody said, hey, next summer, just go out, get up six nights a week for four straight weeks. Like, okay, I can do something with that. I just thought I was just getting my ass kicked and it wasn't, it wasn't.

Most of the time, you know what I was doing? I was trying to remember my jokes. Yeah. You want to get to the point where that shit's in your pocket and you can just start being your self-unstation.

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It's my time. Show up for it. I used to have to bring, when I was single, I used to have to bring them to the clubs and Joe Diaz used to be their babysitter. Oh yeah.

And so... Joe Diaz was his babysitter and my other two kids as well. It was nobody else there. Ralphie.

It was Joe Diaz and Ralphie man. Good to have them. No, it was. She gave us some sort of debt.

You could just use his pockets. The crowd would say for work. Well, at the time, dude, he was like 360, 370 pounds. He was big, dude.

And even on the days that he couldn't do it, I would just take him to the comedy store. And when I did my set, somebody would sit in the car with them and I would come back out or the Improv would let them sit in the front area. You know, Chelsea used to sit with them and he... I scream.

I would just do my set. All the sun used to introduce me at the Improv and he was like seven. But I've always just been like, fuck it. If I...

I'm bringing them with me. But I'm getting on. I'm getting on stage because I never had a plan date. It was never a...

It was never like if this doesn't work. I'm gonna. It was... This is gonna work.

Which is how you do it. This job, I think, in particular. Yeah. Right.

You're wasting. Because it's not that you can't get good one day a week. It's just there are people who are getting on stage ten times a week. And even if you're better and funnier than them starting out, this is a game about reps.

I'm sure just like skateboarding. It's rep rep rep. You gotta put in a certain amount of hours to even get close to right. And stand up is like, it's all reps.

I'm sure you can feel the plats and like times where you're like, oh, I just made a jump. Yeah. The... When I was in Florida, Brianna, where there was like, yeah, I did three shows a day for three days.

I was at that festival with you. Day, something happened on stage. And I was like, that wasn't gonna happen for another couple of months. It happened because I've done three shows every night for the last three days.

And the third night, I was something, all of a sudden I'm like, I'm looking at people, and I'm looking at their reactions, and I'm thinking about other stuff as stuff is coming out of my mouth. And I'm like, what is happening in my mind right now? Because it was like when Telly said, I'm just trying to remember my material. Yeah.

But they left, and I was like, you know that? Now there's like other stuff, and I added things. And I was like, wow, that was like that. And then some of the things I added became my joke, and the other thing is not my joke anymore.

It's what I love the most. What I've just described is what I love the most about Santa. It is, it's, it's, if you allow it to be, it's in every evolving, ever changing, ever growing art that you never perfect. Yeah.

If you work on that, it always gets better. They understand people that have specials and go, ah, yes, I could have made that so much better because that joke now, I did different point of view. You know what I did over quarantine? One of my favorite things I've ever done is I took the first comedy CD I ever recorded, and I took all the premises and rewrote all the jokes.

Wow. Just to see, I'm like, I wonder where I go with this stuff now. So different. If I ask you about that, you did a special, if I'm not mistaken, where you retired material about your kids being a dad.

That's not your entire identity as a comic, but it's obviously a pretty big part of your identity as a comic. That's like, it's kind of easy to look at your life and be like, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, the alcoholic guy or the dick or on the insult guy. I'm the guy who makes jokes about his kids. Now you just have this total blank canvas of you just got it.

You got to make yourself a thing and there's no ready made like template for you to plug yourself into. Did you know what the next Josh Wolf iteration was going to be? Are you still finding that next iteration? You know what, I'm going to tell you for real.

I would say this over the last two or three years, all the wheels are on the track. And I'm not saying this. If you know me, I'm not a braggadocious dude, but right now the comedy is just spilling out. Like I shot a special in January.

I had an hour that I would tell you right now that I've been doing around the country. I had an hour by the end of April. That was, that is like, I think this hour I'm doing right now, the best hour I've ever done. When I figured out how to do, because I've always told stories, right?

But I've always been like, well, this story is not funny enough to tell. But I figured out how to take regular, just interesting stories and make that funny, not change the story to make it funny, but tell it funny, right? The right punch lines. So it doesn't, really what I want you to do is I want you to hook into the emotion of the story.

I tell a story about jumping off of a space needle. I'm scared. Right. And so off a needle in Auckland, New Zealand, you know, there's a, you can bungee off the needle.

Okay. Is it like the Seattle one? No, you can jump off the strat in Vegas. Okay.

It's like that. But the story itself isn't funny. But I was like, you know what, people are going to relate to the emotion of their biggest fear. Yeah.

They're going to tell, even if their biggest fear is heights, that's what's going to keep them going. They're the emotion of the story. And now it's my job to make that funny. And so, but that change, when that changed for me, I was like, oh, when you say the canvas, it's open.

Pick a story. It doesn't have to be funny. Yeah. I'm going to make it funny.

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Father and Son Comedians Josh and Jacob Wolf join Jason and Tully to discuss Weed confession, Learning self defense, Getting beaten by lady, Jacob's start on Stand Up, Comedian struggles, Josh's worst bomb, Tully's comedy time, Storytelling in...

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