Journeys to God & The Shamanic Experience w/Mary Kay Ryan

In this episode we continue our conversation with Mary Kay Ryan.  She and Daniel detail Shamanic experiences of interacting with what are perceived as divine forces.  Mary Kay mentions the show Lucifer and its many humurous perspectives on various traditional views on the relationships between God and his family.  She also shares a story of meeting a Daoist Immortal... in Chicago!  Also we detail wisdom as a process of remembering, seeing the world as divine and communicating the feeling of an experience through storytelling.