Joy as Medicine: Making Therapy Creative, Collaborative, and Human with Andrew Tepper, LCSW

In this uplifting episode of Lumen, hosts Christopher Mooney, LCSW and Kenyon Phillips, LMSW carve out some time with guest Andrew Tepper, LCSW, founder of BODA Therapy in New York, to talk about something that often gets overlooked in mental health work: joy. Andrew shares how his program blends short-term retreats in the Catskills, skill-based therapies like CBT and DBT, and real-world accountability to support clients beyond the traditional therapy hour. Together, the three clinicians discuss the power of experiential therapy, creative expression, and collaborative connection as pathways to healing. Drawing on Andrew’s 15 years of experience as a clinician in an inpatient psychiatric hospital, the conversation explores how music, theater, and shared creative experiences can lower defenses, build trust, and make therapy feel more human. Instead of focusing solely on pathology or pain, this episode asks a simple but radical question: What if recovery could also include fun? By celebrating the spark that happens when a clinician and a client create something together, Christopher, Kenyon, and Andrew demonstrate how skill-building, connection, and joy can coexist in the therapeutic process.To learn more about Andrew Tepper, LCSW, visit the BODA Therapy website and connect with him on Instagram and LinkedIn.To book a free consultation with Christopher, Kenyon, or the other providers at Lumen Therapy Collective, visit lumentherapycollective.com. Follow Lumen on Instagram: @lumen_therapy_collectiveSubscribe, share, and review Lumen on your favorite podcast platform!Lumen is for educational and informational purposes only and is not a substitute for therapy, diagnosis, or treatment. If you’re experiencing a mental health crisis, please contact local emergency services or a trusted mental health professional.