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I'm Sean Fennese. I'm Amanda Dodd. And this is The Big Picture Conversation Show about dinosaurs. Later in this episode, I'll be joined by not a dinosaur, Ava Victor, first time writer, director, who Sundance Prius, winning film Sorry Baby, is one of the most exciting debuts of the year.
Ava is straight up, one of my favorite guests in the history of this podcast. Smart, funny, special thinker, hoping to stick around for our conversation. Their movie is nothing like the movie we're going to talk about today, which is Jurassic World Rebirth. But before we get to that movie, CR is here.
Hey, what kind of prison could hold a man like me? We have just returned from an 8am screening of Jurassic World Rebirth, and we went to that screening for two reasons. The first reason is not invited to a screening by the studio. I don't know why, what the hell, universal, I guess.
They don't want us to see Jurassic World, but it worked out well, because this gave us an opportunity to see on the big screen, the trailer for Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey, The Teaser Trailer. So, Amanda, I'll start with you. What did you think of that teaser trailer? It did leak yesterday.
It did. I did not watch it. I was, I was saving it for my Dolby experience. Did you read deadlines description of the trailer?
No, of course not. No. I went in clean. You went in clean.
Yeah. I was also like, I'm getting up, I got up at my normal time actually, but I'm advocating all child care responsibility this morning. So I can go see it on the biggest screen possible as Christopher Nolan intended. That's right.
So I saw it. I would say, so the screening started at eight. I wanted to say that it aired at like 834-ish. Yes.
Well, it is very interesting. We were very nervous because I got there right at the dot eight o'clock because I am known historically to arrive late to miss trailers and then also miss parts of the movie. But I got there on time. We watched a show to trailers.
Lots of trailers. Lots of trailers. And you know, and you at one point were like, yep, I think this is the one. And then I think it was the trailer for Edgar Wright's Running Man.
Yes. Shout out then, Powell looks good to me. And they kept going. And then there was like the Dolby, you know, part two of the Dolby Hey, you're in Dolby.
And then there was the Nicole Kidman's each and you're getting nervous. We're like, did we show up here? Also, when did they during the heartbreak feels good in place like this? When did they edit in the stars?
I think it's been there. I know they've been changing the references. I know that. And why are you looking at me?
I'm just waiting to get to the object. Well, so was I also, you know, sort of on theme. I don't know if you know that's what the audience is about. And so I actually read it.
Well, they dropped the lights. They dropped the lights. They dropped the lights. And then the green screen hit.
And we were extremely relieved. Yes. So it looks good. It looks really good.
That shot of them. There was a lot of build up for it. Looks good. The horses and the horses on the beach and the Trojan horse, you know, like it's very large film that uses.
And I see why. I'm Max Cameron's 65 millimeter. Huge, huge moment for Bernthal. I think that was Christian Bale doing the V.O.
In the beginning. It's John Legguizamo. Is it? Oh, there are two voices that we hear.
The first is I'm almost certain John Legguizamo. Okay. Giving this sort of brief narration about. We had the transcript here.
So Chris read it. Darkness. Zeus's lost. Mash the pieces.
Yeah. A kingdom without a king since my master died. Okay. Now there's a second voice that we hear that may be Robert Patton's.
Okay. Unclear before we cut to Tom Holland's teary-eyed face. Yeah. He's playing telemoccas in this film.
Yeah. Odysseuson. And who is he talking to? JB.
But one John. Yeah. Wayne. And he honestly is waning.
He is in an epic tragedy of Wayne. You know what I got from this moment a little bit? A little less temptation of Christ. Yeah.
Like even Tom Holland's doing American accent. Bernthal is just doing burnfall. Yeah. Beautiful.
But I'm surprised to see you take it out of its classical western roots of like, okay. So they're going to do English accents or something like that. But I guess they've all agreed non-descript American accents. Okay.
Just to align with Damon. I guess. So Damon doesn't have to do the accent work. I assume that that was why they made that decision.
Yeah. Because we have heard him do accents before. Not his strength. Unless it's Boston.
Historically Boston. He's wonderful. Yes. Not as much an accent.
We're like an inner self coming out. He was good. His accent in Stillwater was good. Sure.
Yeah. You are the world's number one Stillwater defender. Because he goes to the Marseilles. Sick.
And they do got swimming on the beautiful. Yeah. And you are Camille Cotein, right? That's one of your gals.
Yeah. We don't see Matt Damon speak in this movie. We see him from behind as he prepares the sort of march battle. The production is on the stage and is classical.
Yeah. You know. And then we see him floating. We do see him floating on a raft of wood in the deep sea.
Waiting his fate. I thought we were going to get maybe like a minute of a, is it Coribis? You know, the sea creature? Oh, the six headed monster.
Yeah. Yeah. We don't get any of that. I think that's.
Yeah. I don't know which one is Skilin, which one is. You know what I was thinking about the other day when you were just yelling about how he is honoring. You know what I was saying?
He is honoring them. And that is just one of the funniest things that happened on a podcast. That should be like the final timeline of this teaser. I just want to tell the listeners.
It's interesting that Sean's commenting on this at all. Because he got up and turned his back on the screen in solidarity with James Cameron. Okay. He's called Christopher Nolan, a moral coward for not showing the bonding of Hiroshima in the opera.
And I thought that was really cool of you, man. It's not often that people really stand on business in this industry. Big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, big, versus Chris is a showdown for the ages, I must say. It's great.
It's too tight and so on. It's not even angling for it in their own way. You know, they each want to carry the mantle of film. That's a big movie, but he's a pussy.
I mean, Big Jim feels Chris on his heels. That's what's going on. You know, he's obviously going for his spot right now. And Big Jim's got a movie coming out in six months.
So he's got to start making waves again. Didn't agree with his take. I thought he was very wrong headed to be honest with you. But it's his right to happen.
Also, James Cameron being like, now I must correct the cinematic record. I don't know if this is for three hours. That's what I want from Big Jim. Right.
And that's what you said after you saw 12 years this late. You said, I need to correct the cinematic record. Respond to this film, which I thought was brave. I'm excited about this movie, obviously.
It comes out one year from today. Or one year from this film. It just feels like such an event. Just a day at Universal had a bunch of screeners, trailers before the Jurassic World.
And they had a bunch of stuff. But it's just like, hang on. We'll be there for you in a year. Yes.
No one creates this sense of anticipation quite like Nolan too. And so he's been doing this this particular stretch. It's pretty amazing that he is also creating this level of anticipation for an adaptation of Homer's Odyssey, which they are like, it's not your helicopter movie, but the Odyssey. It is just like, there was not helicopters.
That's true. He has not denied that existence of helicopters in this world. That was true. But it did look like they were going for an ancient Greek feel.
I do, I, Bernthal and Tom Holland were wearing like, Toga-esque qualities, draping, as opposed to the more tailored clothes that you and I wear today. You think they should have dressed like they weren't inception? No, I'm just saying, like I'm reading the text. That's what we do here on a big picture.
It does seem, you know, like they're going for pre-electrocity. I believe that would be the case. I'll be dropping an hour and a half long breakdown of the teaser where I freeze frames and say, this could be a shadow of a chopper blade. This also could be a shadow of a chopper blade.
Do you see in the moments immediately after Odysseus is floating on the water, Roy Scheider's revived corpse, flying in on a helicopter to save him and take him away? It's okay. Okay. Well, we're all very excited about that.
Let's, let's, shall we talk now about, there were a couple of other trailers. Yeah. I'll just say watch the sentimental value trailer. And I was like, I'm ready to be moved to like.
I just responded to the email when I see this. So I don't need a trailer. I just want to go. Yeah.
No, number seventh is the same day that since mental value is coming out as is the running man, you mentioned that briefly. Same thing we saw in April at Cinemacon. Action looks incredible. I hope that movie is a lot of fun.
We shall see. Let's talk about Jurassic World River. So we just walked out of the movie. No prep.
Yeah. No discussion. No planning. You are a sequencing engineer at the screening.
There were some real heads at the screening. Yeah. I would say it was half full at 8 a.m. Some we met some lovely people.
Yes, we did. We met Alyssa and Ike Schifner. Yes. We were showing up because this is the only time she could see it.
I ran into a guy who was like, I got 11 a.m. Zoom. This was the only time I could see this movie today. Yeah.
So appreciate them. I wish I didn't spend my morning this way, but we'll talk about that. This movie is the seventh film in the Jurassic series. It's the fourth film in the non-Sealburg era of this series, although he's still a producer on the Jurassic Steel Lake.
And Jurassic Steel Lake, the first thing. Yeah. It is the return of David Cap, the screenwriter who wrote the first two Jurassic movies. It is directed by Gareth Edwards, a filmmaker who, I think at least Chris and I, I don't know if I know your opinion about him, have a lot of admiration for, but also a lot of notes for.
That will continue a pace. Turned by Gail Wright as well. Yeah. So he's still right, of course, worked as well on Rogue One, a film that Gareth had started.
This movie has a lot of stars in it. Scarlett Johansson, Marshall Ali, Jonathan Bailey, Rupert Friend. Amanda, what did you think of Jurassic World Rebirth? I think you guys both need to learn how to have fun again.
What's wrong with me? Well, you were just a little muted during that. You weren't pumping your fist at any point, so I was a little nervous. And I know you're not wearing a lanyard.
Um, maybe you tried to leave it behind in the theater. What will you do with that long term? You think you'll put that in your will? So, no, no, this is really into lanyard's right now.
My mom went. But he's not into dinosaurs yet. No, he has apparently. I learned the other day that he knows what a Tyrannosaurus Rex is.
I just like, I didn't know that. Now he's ready. I'm like, you had to do one of his ready for the gifts I have for him. Have you had to do one of dinosaur eggs with him?
I have, yes. Yeah, I have to. I have to. Yeah, it's like the bath bomb, but it's a dinosaur egg and then a tiny plastic dinosaur comes out.
Yeah, you can chip it out. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're big into that.
But yeah, he also likes lanyards. He wears my cinema conlanard around a lot. It was a really safe for your. And also, my mom's lanyard for the masters that she gave him.
So anyway, I had fun. You know, it is like totally a recreation of the first Jurassic Park, like it's seen for scene. But listen, when people who have maybe lost their connection to wander find themselves in a field looking at herbivore giant dinosaurs and that the insongas playing like I'm still moved by that. I don't I don't care.
And I think that you should open your heart and learn how fun. Of course, what do you think of Jurassic Park? Two movies in this movie. Yeah.
I kind of enjoyed both of those two movies until the two movies became united. Okay. And that was when the movie kind of ran a little bit out of gas. I think it looks awesome.
Incredible. Shodham film. Shot by Ridley Scott's frequent collaborator, Donatson. I turned to about 30 minutes and I was like, this is shot on film.
It looks beautiful. It looks beautiful. Yeah. And also like shot in real places, they closed down the Brooklyn Bridge Park in New York for just like a random scene with a brontosaurus.
And then it kept in like the Cobble Hill Keeping Pen which like Cobble Hill. Did you just add? Did you want to get in that latte? Of course I did.
I'm sorry. I can't work. I love it all. I thought this was two movies.
There's a one movie where my favorite use of the Jurassic Park moving theme song ever. You know, like the not glorious but the sort of this is the emo part while Scarlett Johansson describes a former colleague dying in a car bomb in Yemen. Because she is a mercenary. She's a lion.
She's a lion. I'd be literally turning the lioness for five minutes. Yeah. I was like, you have my attention.
That is not the essence of this movie at all. Anyway, there's like a whole one plot one movie is a search. It is a basically sort of trap of trying to get dinosaur DNA to cure heart disease run by big pharma. Then 40 minutes into the movie, we just be a family that is inexplicably voting from Barbados to Cape Town South Africa, which they've done many times.
Even though a lot of that involves sailing through a DMZ dinosaur militarized. Right. And could you just remind us geopolitically and I guess like topographically geographically, like what belongs to the humans and what belongs to the humans. This is actually.
I'm glad you said this. This is about accountability. The last time we did one of our kind of now patented deep dives into the war narratives of these phones, Sean and I went across the Prattverse and we talked about the Jurassic World, Jurassic World, Fallen Kingdom and Jurassic World Dominion. And I realized I'd never seen Dominion.
So I watched the extended cut last night. Did you? Yeah. And there's like an extensive amount of stuff that I just did not know.
Okay. That was the most recent film. In fact, we did an episode about it on the show, but it was Brian Curtis and I. Okay.
We talked about it. I don't know where either of you were. I think I had maybe had a child recently. You did.
Anyway, so what's up? What's going on? So I think I had when I had last checked in, I thought they were like, these guys get to keep Costa Rica and that's it. There's been a lot of expansion and contraction on the part of the dinosaurs into the real world since I checked in.
So Dominion Dominion, right? Dominion is the funnel. Dominion is the funnel. Really gets into them being out in the world, terrorizing people, driving, etc.
How do they get off? Well, I guess Costa Rica is attached to that. Look at the island in Fallen Kingdom, the previous film. Okay.
That's the JBAO in a film. They basically like bring them over to raffle them off to wealthy people. Yes. They're like an auctioneering.
Just a long, long, brave, small corporations. Yes. Corporations consistently the villains of this movie. Not against that.
Sure. It's a good idea. It was a good idea 35 years ago when middle-crayed and had it. I think that this movie is coming very quickly on the heels of Dominion, which I think was roundly disliked and made a lot of money, but was not necessarily considered as a success.
I did not. It was a great. So in the end, they're put in zoos and they can have the equator. It's that's where it may have been.
They are still around though. There's still dinosaurs like by train tracks in Brooklyn, like hanging out at Drive-ins. Right. They are largely on the equatorial band where the oxygen is rich and the vegetation is clean.
Okay. That was the explanation. There are some remaining dinosaurs on the mainland, but those are, it seems like are largely herbivores and are not dangerous. They're just taking up a tremendous amount of experience.
I think they said there's an allosaurus that was a bit of a bronze source. Maybe a very breeder. Well, you're an idiot. For dinosaur.
Well, I mean, I guess if I have to think about it. But I just, what's going on with take on dinosaurs? I'm sort of like just the dinosaur alone would take up at this point and cobble hill. Oh, yeah.
50 to 70 million dollars. Just like it's mass. In terms of real estate. Yeah, yeah, real estate.
So once again, it's only a corporation that is evil could have worked out. You feel like Michelle Williams was like, God damn it, I was going to build it. She's more and help. Yeah.
Sorry. In this film, Rupert Friend plays, I guess one of the head of this mission to retrieve this dinosaur DNA. You're using it, I think. InGen, yes.
Right? Well, it's a real unclear. Well, we're on the thing that, yeah. It feels like a spinoff company from InGen, which is the original company.
The film actually opens with a flashback 17 years in the past where we see this research facility that is mutating and mixing a kind of island of Dr. Morro for dinosaurs that InGen has been working on to get people more excited about their dinosaur parks, which consistently turn into nightmare zones of murdered tourists. Yep. And if you've ever seen Jurassic World, how could there be another park?
Can I just, sure, I know. But you saying that you during the Wicked Trailer turned to me and gave a quite beautiful and thoughtful recap of the profound artistic experience you had recently at Universal Studios, seeing a Glinda performance. You actually like theme parks and you understand how when carried out correctly, they can communicate with you. This theme park is a murder house.
This is a day I go to Universal if you died every time. This is not, Terry Actels are picking people up in the middle of the theme park and dragging them away to their day. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, yeah, good. They'll keep opening the park. They opened it once and then they opened it again. But then InGen is like, we gotta make more dinosaurs that are even crazier than they are.
They're more interested in the pharmacological and military permutations of dinosaur DNA than they are in like, let's have more dinosaurs. Well, that's the case, at least for the Rupert Frank character in this movie. So he recruits Scarlett Johansson, a mercenary who's famed for her work in retrieval. And she makes contact with a man named Duncan.
Kincaid. Kincaid who is a shipboat captain and also a mercenary. I think Duncan Kincaid is the name of a character in one of my favorite, yeah, detective series. There's a lot of references to, well, we'll get to another one.
There's another scene of the one which is the. Did you hear, did you catch? Shh. I was recommended Zora who is Scarlett Johansson's character to Rupert Friend.
Did you see, do you hear what he said? What did he said? I feel like he's like, Pierre Passolini recommended you to me. Oh, he said Paolo Passolini.
Yeah. So yeah, you think that was a filmic reference to the cosplay in the same. It could be. A lot of references.
There were a lot of references. The character who comes along with him is by Jonathan Bailey, Dr. Loomis, who is a paleontologist of some renown, I suppose, and is able to identify what these different dinosaurs look like. They need DNA from three different dinosaurs.
A pterodone in the sky, the largest one. A mosasaurus, which is an underwater dinosaur and a titanosaurus, which is a herbivore, some kind of large kind of rhombosaurus. Landerth and sea. Landerth and sea.
And so they're like, we got to go to Cernan and then we got to pick up Duncan Kincaid and we got to listen to Primal Scream while we're there. He's got a boat. So that's what I need. Yep.
You got to have a guy with a boat. He has a guy named Atwater who might be South African who's also a merc. And a couple of cool people on the boat. And the gang gets all together and they're like, let's go get some dino blood.
This is minute 40, right? Minute 40 roughly. And at that time, that's when that other family, the Chris is trying to- Hard to do family sailing across the Atlantic that we haven't met yet. Just like indefensibly stupid screenwriting.
Like that whole plot is complete garbage. But you don't think that's the plot. That's not good. Like if it was about a family sailing.
It's just the most like we got to get kids in danger in the movie. Maybe we'll have a little phone who's a Lincoln wire in the Netflix show. Yes. The performances are fine.
Those kids are good. Like the young girl especially I thought her performance is really concerning. She was acting opposite of tennis ball. That whole- Who is that small little dinosaur?
She's her friends named Dolores. Dolores, yes. Who is that guy? I kind of from a summer, I term pretty is in this.
Your favorite show? Well, I'm fine. You were you are- Were you mad at this from a screenwriting perspective or a parent? Both.
You did turn to me and you're like, this is irresponsible. That's what my- Virtual Ali's character says. I know and they put that scene in the movie to kind of like yada yada where the guy gets to say there are 50,000 boats in these waters. It's like there are not 50,000 boats in the waters next to the fucking Moses Saurus.
I'm not an idiot. You can't treat me like an idiot in a movie like this. The great thing about Jurassic Park is it's an absurd premise. But it very carefully makes you understand its own logic and you go along with it.
The entire time I was watching this movie, I was like, this is not well thought out. Here's my counter to you. This was actually what I thought final reckoning was going to be, which is a series of really well-planned sequences that maybe don't actually come together in a story. But I understand it's insulting my intelligence.
Why are they- This is clearly- We need to have a kid aspect. We need to have a baby yoda dinosaur or whatever. Like it's obviously like that's what the deal is. But at the same time, I think Edward's understands how to stage these things in a way.
That's probably a pretty good JV Spielberg at this point. Like we're- There's a- I mean we can get into the individual encounters with dinosaurs if you want to, but I thought there was one where Xavier, who is the teenage girl's boyfriend who has come along on this transatlantic voyage, is taking a piss. And he- It's up on his face, he's just trying to take a week. And two raptors basically zero in on him.
And then the pterodactyl thing comes and grabs the raptors. But the entire time, it's just on this kid's face with all this stuff happening. And he can hear it and he gets like splashed by some sort of dinosaur liquid. So live on, yeah.
So I just- And it's like- It's like- The rapper showed Chris was just like, oh no. And then I- So I understand your point, which is we have seen all this before and it doesn't make any sense, but I agree with Chris that it is a really well-executed version of what we've done. The sequences are good. It looks good.
It's really not a really good version of that movie. It's just not. I don't know what to tell you. There have been seven of these now.
It's fine. I think- I think- I think it's better than the Jurassic World. I absolutely do. I think the original Jurassic World certainly is at least in neck and neck with this.
Like there was at least like new shape toward the plotting of that movie. This is literally just a remake, like you said, of the first film in part because it's written by David Capworth. They're forcing aspects of this story as hard as they can to give you that feeling. There's literally a scene in the Plains where they're watching a herbivore and they're hitting the theme hard and they're having characters look up in Wonder and touch them gently, but it isn't the scene.
No, no. I mean, there's like instead of the kitchen, it's the convenience- The convenience- The convenience- There's a fine line between Ohmaj and Jirkeneyoff. You know what I mean? And this is like really on the line of Jirkeneyoff.
That's a good story. I mean, it's a very short story. I mean, that's what I actually found the cap tips to other franchises and other movies more enjoyable than the Jurassic World. Yeah.
Yeah. references to Indiana Jones, to aliens, to Jaws. And I actually found all that stuff way more enjoyable than like, oh, Brontosaurus is necking, you know, like, it's sweet. But like, you know, I think that the problem is that seeing Jurassic Park the first time when you're a kid, whenever you've seen it, you can see it two years ago and have the same reaction.
The first time you see the dinosaurs, you're having the reaction of the people in the park the first time they're seeing dinosaurs and this thing that they never thought would happen is happening. And as a kid, you're obsessed with dinosaurs, but you're like, I'll never actually know what these things look or feel or move like. And this first movie, Jurassic Park, is the closest thing we ever got to that feeling. And ever since then, you know, it's no matter what technological leaps they make, it's still gonna be like, great, Brontosaurus is, you know, like, I kind of feel like it's a shame, it's a drug and you just get used to the drug after a while.
Yeah, I don't think you saw the last few Jurassic World movies. So because of that, you're like a little bit more open minded. So you just did this three years ago. I did this last night.
Yeah, but I didn't like them. And I disagree for me. I like a watchable version of original Jurassic Park is more enjoyable than like a boring Chris Bratt. Like, you know, I understand Blue or whatever.
And he's like friends with a raptor. And then like, Christ Alice Howard is there. And she's got like, he's got a little clicker. Yeah, and she has like saved the island or something.
Like, I don't know. I don't care about those people. Okay. You're about to care about this one.
You're dying on Reaper's Island? It's just weird. I'm not dying. I didn't have time.
Yeah. It looks really good. It's just like, it's just like every Garath Edwards movie. Yeah.
Just the plotting and the story is just real janky. You blame him. You never mind. The script you blame.
You have a family in this. Actually, I mentioned this when we were watching the movie. There's a cool sequence where they're moving through the jungle. Again, I agree with her.
A lot of cool sequences. So I'm going to go through the jungle and Jonathan Bailey takes over the movie a little bit and he starts talking about the arc of time and science and how we're just like a blip essentially in the history of this planet and dinosaurs that rule for much longer than we will ever live on this planet. And it's classic David Kep where he's just got, he's letting someone monologue because other characters are asking questions that you would never ask in real life. You know, there's a part where we're friends like, well, what do you mean by that?
Which no one would ever say when a scientist starts talking. But Jonathan Bailey is a really good performer and it's really well written stuff. So when you're watching that, you're like, this is kind of entertaining and it feels like it's raising the stakes, but it's totally manufactured and it's totally transparent. So something that feels deep or thematic is just something that we already learned in 1993 when we saw the first film.
There's literally nothing new idea. Yeah, I think that the first, as you can celebrate the visual achievements of the first one, it also had a very coherent kind of like, what if we don't know, we can do something, but that doesn't mean we should. Right. And more and more as the films went on, I think it lost any kind of like, what is this movie trying to say?
Not that it has to say something, but good storytelling is grounded in an idea that matters, whether it's dinosaurs or not. I think it's a question of what you ultimately want from the movies. Like you're saying you want to have that one feeling of the wonder of a dinosaur sequence, right? And then I just want to get out because even though I have literally like seen, like I have the design of the kitchen sequence from the original Jurassic Park, like memorized and I like reference it regularly when my son's figured out how to open a new door, you know?
I have like, I haven't memorized, but I was still stressed out in this recreation, which is in a convenience store instead of a thing. And it is like, the small child has to hide somewhere and they're all like literally hiding behind as the, you know, like you could like schematically like shot for shot, put it on my, but I don't care. It's like, I'm still stressed out. I have a couple more questions for you.
We're just doing free fire. So how long do you think you could survive on a pure liquorice diet? Well, it's been almost 43 years now. So there's a child in this movie seems to only eat licorice both on the boat and on the island and then friends, another dinosaur gets through her trauma, honestly.
A lot of trauma for everybody in this movie. Everybody's working through some trauma. In a 21st century movie. I was just telling the body.
I was, I just saw it drop the other night and I was like, God damn it, this is like a fun movie with like this ridiculous book and plot on it. But Merchial Ali lost a child maybe, but several explicitly said so. Well, he split it. Yeah, I think it is.
It's explicitly that they lost it. They lost a child and it was like two painful. They reminded each other of the child. So they split up and then he takes the picture of the child who I assume that that was like a baby picture of her.
It looks just like him. But then I was thinking, so like, what's the ask? Who's being like, Hey, man, do you mind if we have a baby photo? So we can then print out, you know, like, I think that would fuck me up a little bit.
Yeah, because we only have 90 seconds of conversation between you and Scarjo to establish your entire emotional register. That was two minutes and I have to say, I thought this is one of the better Scarjo performances I've seen in some times. So I just that's where I was. What did you think of Scarlett Johansson in this film?
I came into it knowing that she really wanted to make a Jurassic Park movie that she had long desire to do and schedules never worked out. She basically like begs to do this movie. And I thought she acquitted herself pretty well. I think one of her best performances is a little bit of a reach, but I said in a while.
Sure. Okay. Yeah, I think she's like that. I know she looks great.
She doesn't like to me. No, she isn't the first person you likely go to for this job would be my guess. She's in control. You know, she knew that she needed Jonathan Bailey to hook her into those like the Caribbean not being hers on either side of the ship.
So she wouldn't fall over. But you know, after she shot the water dinosaur. Some of the greatest check offs. I've ever seen her hooks.
I've ever seen in my life. She flips over the edge. Yeah, she was okay. What do you think?
I thought she was good, but the character was silly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, same for Mahershala.
So I wonder whether or not you guys had the same sensation I did where it's like, you know, they're they're boating and they're capsizing and they're rescue and then like they're kind of adventure through the jungle, the family I'm talking about versus like, did you have a preference of which movie likes more the mercenary science story or the family survival story? It's pretty easily the mercenary stuff for me. I was kind of hoping that they would take it somewhere a little further beyond, you know, what was explained to us in the original film about the potential scientific power of dinosaurs. Yeah.
I mean, that was just explored a long time ago. There's a very funny moment where they're talking about whether or not they're going to sell the dinosaur DNA to make tens of millions of dollars or make it open source so that everybody can get it. And Scarlett Johansson is like, who should we give it to? And I was like, please just say Robert F.
Kennedy. D.D. D.D. D.
D.D. And I was like, you know, this movie's been put out by a massive corporation and it's pretty dumb and they just want everybody to just eat their popcorn and shut up and like it over the holiday weekend. This is not so the idea of suggesting that there would ever be a moment in time where a pharmaceutical company would not allow this precious information that they have acquired. Spoiler alert.
Are we spoiling things? Can we get the spoiler? I mean, it's not necessary. I think it's clear who's going to die in the movie from the moment that she starts.
Well, actually, I got to tell you, one guy made it who I thought was definitely destined for death. So, I'm going to save you. Yeah. Really?
Yeah. I'm going to show up. I was like, oh, it's definitely a movie has no guts. I'm like, oh, it's really lame, man.
Like this movie could have been a lot better because Garrett Edwards knows how to shoot a movie. He keeps taking on movies with terrible scraps. The commercial fake death facility. Yeah.
It's just super lame. It's also like, we don't want to die. Don't put him in that. It's a commercial while he's not actually dying.
You don't actually have a relationship to Duncan Caine. He's something for fuck's sake. Have real stakes instead of just killing the French captain who falls asleep who's the most obvious like we've never seen this man in our lives before. He's obviously going to die.
He's like, yeah. That's too bad. Yeah. Let's see.
Like I was going to try and off the top of my head powering some of the dinosaur interactions here. I really liked the water dinosaur. I thought that all like essentially like this is a great white shark stuff was really cool. The boat flipping was good.
There's so many things that he does where I'm like, oh shit, like you're better than like 98% of the people would have done that. And then I liked all that kind of like sailboat dinosaurs showed up to help the big dinosaur. He went to the back. I was watching the boat running the boat into the shallows to try and out run the masa source.
Is that what I was a source? That was cool. The bird dinosaur I could take relief, honestly. And in fact, I'm not like a super big fan of airborne dinosaurs.
I thought the C.R. Yeah. I thought that was really cool. I've never seen the T-Rex on its back before that was a cool thing to show us.
And then the the rafics like opening up and then hiding the dinosaur departing and then they'll chase through the river. I thought, oh, that's a good example of like Gareth Edwards has the juice when it comes to this kind of action staging and the CGI looks really good in this movie for the most part. Yeah. But anytime people start talking, I'm like, yeah, yes, let's go back to getting eaten by dinosaurs.
Can I go back? Can I do Amanda Science Corner about so like to get to vamp for the music to do. Welcome to Amanda Dobbinson Science Corner. That's like the.
That's like the super Mario. Yeah. That's like the only video game song that I know. So and this is going to kind of be a continuation of our like the reproductive systems of mutated creatures that we don't really want to be dealing with after 28 years later.
Oh, yeah. I'd like to kind of talk about the embryo, the egg and embryo extraction process. So what is he? So we think the embryonic fluid.
I believe so. He's like has the DNA, but it's also I mean, I guess that is true for that we know in humans from a testing perspective because now they can test the. Yeah, for potential. Right.
But now they mostly do that with blood. But we've seen the movie. No, I was I wasn't sure whether science corner was supposed to ask questions. Yeah, it's a really.
It's so it's basically he's doing amnios and thesis and then the and like the and I guess it's ambient is that they're using it. But that I don't know if it is exactly the same in terms of dinosaur eggs and birds as it is for humans. But you have to assume that's their model. I think it's doing birds with your model.
Well, you know, well, it's an egg. When the when the angry mom bird showed up, I was like, oh, you're in trouble. Really that was scary. You related to her?
It's like you it's really you don't want to be like in an enclosed space with some eggs when the mom said that bird dinosaur is on your mom's WhatsApp. Once again, we learned that Terradon can't have it all. Hey, Mama, what are you doing with me? That on high blanket is coming your way.
What did you guys think of the giant mutant dinosaur that dominates the opening sequence and closing sequence of the movie? It's pretty ugly, you know, some marks for not having the T Rex come in and save the day as it has in so many forms. I was waiting for the T Rex to come through and fuck that guy up. You know, and it did teach me a lesson about maybe we shouldn't, once again, we shouldn't fuck with nature, you know, because that's what you get.
You learned that lesson in 1993? Well, apparently I have it because we're still here and also I'm getting lasers on my face to try to reverse time, you know. So yeah, I did. But just one, but just a laser.
Nothing injected yet. You got to be careful with those lasers because they do attract dinosaurs. So next time you get that laser going, we do learn that the red light, Gareth Edwards, he loves a red light man, you know, remembering Godzilla? This is his thing.
The opening sequence of this movie is very much like Godzilla. Literally the glass. I know we've seen this before, you know, but without two actors, I don't know, as opposed to Julia, but notion Brian Cranston giving the performance of their lives in Godzilla. Cranston is a fucking media.
I like the bulk of it. You're so angry. Do you think it was the comp? Yeah.
If I brought you like a pastry? No, it's just this movie was rushed and you can tell and they could have done better. Like it's just clear that they could have done better. Why are you flaring your nostrils at me?
Like I just showed up. You owe it to the people of the truth. And I am telling them the truth is I got the fuck up. I went to see a movie and I had a pretty good time.
Yeah, I'm sure some people will feel that way. But I this is in a realm of a certain kind of like this is representative of the circling the drain arrow franchise for me to me. This is like this is not as bad as FastX at all. And I'm not as mad as I was about that.
This movie has a lot more craft than it, but it's a little insulting. I think you're feeling the way I was feeling during ballerina. Like, I mean, we're I'm like mad about this and nobody else is really mad. They're just like, that wasn't very good.
Yeah. I actually, I mean, I was probably closer to Amanda on this, but that's more just because I'm like, oh, this shot this on phone. Yeah. Yeah.
Usually like I'm willing to forgive some of these things. I think I just get too close to something you know you like. And then it comes up short. I was just going to say that I didn't have this problem with F1 because I hadn't quite seen a movie like that before.
That piece of stuff that I saw in that movie, I was like, oh man, this is racing. I've never seen this in a movie before. This is incredible. So I was more willing to forgive some of the script problems and we'll be like, I don't know.
We got six times from movies already. What's your version of this then? Would it be like, what's a movie that you like this comes too close to something I already know I like and it's not good enough? I don't know.