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EPISODE · Jul 2, 2025 · 55 MIN

"Just Don’t Take No for an Answer" - Andy Pear on the Power of Persistence, Starting Messy and Scaling Big

from The Graft Podcast · host Ben Glimmerveen

What does it really take to build a business empire - while surviving recessions, dodgy manufacturers, and your kids joining the company?This week, we sit down with Andy Pear: entrepreneur, founder of First Aid UK, and the man behind some of Congleton’s most iconic businesses. From remortgaging his home to buy a failing medical supply company, to opening a 300,000 sq ft manufacturing site in China - and later sinking millions into a heritage hospitality venue - Andy’s journey is a masterclass in what it means to graft.🎧 Listen as we discuss...(00:00) – From Selfridges to medical sales: the unexpected career beginnings(03:04) – The £15K loan that turned into a £500K buyout (thanks, Dad)(07:00) – Scaling First Aid UK and learning what wasn’t working(09:00) – Why he sold his first business and started again from scratch(12:10) – Navigating shady Chinese factories (and building his own)(19:00) – Surviving recessions, supplier stress, and managing cashflow(21:00) – Honesty, decency, generosity: the simple HR philosophy that works(27:00) – Spelling mistakes, car bumps, and letting people learn by doing(30:00) – What it’s like managing your kids in a growing business(34:00) – Why stepping back as MD gave him the freedom to step up as mentor(40:00) – Buying The Lion & Swan and turning a crumbling pub into a destination(44:00) – Would he go into hospitality again? (The answer might surprise you)(48:00) – What makes Pax, the iconic restaurant, work after 40+ years(50:00) – His biggest business lesson from a gold-medal Olympic familyKEY TAKEAWAYSPush the envelope: When the door closes, knock on the side gate. Then climb over it.Build trust with your suppliers: Honesty buys you time (and sometimes survival).Let people make mistakes: It’s how they learn—and how your company grows.Legacy isn’t just business: It’s family, community, and what you leave behind in the places that raised you.GUEST Andy Pear - Entrepreneur, Founder of First Aid UK, Owner of The Lion & Swan and Pax, Chairman of Reliance Medical

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