Just Say No to "Yes-Man Agents" & "Process Barnacles": How Miro Builds Post-AI | Jeff Chow, CPTO

On a Friday, one of Miro's architects set his agents loose on the company's AI engine. Nobody asked him to. By Monday, he demoed a full refactor. Tuesday, it had a kickoff, and a few months later it was the headline of their user conference. Here's the twist. Miro has refused to rebuild its process around AI. They've kept the same three milestones they've always had...they just changed what happens around them. Our guest today is Jeff Chow, Miro’s Chief Product & Technology Officer. He helps lead a company whose entire job is helping cross-functional teams work better together, which makes it an unusually good place to watch what AI is actually doing to how teams build. Jeff's take: AI hasn't moved the milestones — It's rewritten everything that happens between them. In this episode, he shares: The false confidence trap of building alongside an agent that tells you every idea is brilliant, and why that makes the moments where humans actually align more important than ever Why product "process barnacles" accrete on companies as they scale, and how that quietly turns a culture of invention to optimization at just the wrong time And why saying no is the next organizational crisis. Now that anyone can build almost anything, it’s become clear that coding was never the hard part Links Jeff's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jjchow/ Miro: https://miro.com/ Chapters 0:00 Introduction 2:20 Why Miro refused to rebuild its process around AI 5:20 What shows up at kickoffs and solutions reviews now 12:15 The false confidence trap: Say no to "yes-man" agents 14:30 From optimization culture to invention culture 18:20 How one IC's side project reshaped Miro's AI engine 22:30 Process barnacles and why saying no is the next crisis 27:30 Conclusion Follow LaunchPod on YouTube We have a new YouTube page! Watch full episodes of our interviews with PM leaders and subscribe! What does LogRocket do? LogRocket's Galileo AI watches user sessions for you and surfaces the technical and usability issues holding back your web and mobile apps. Understand where your users are struggling by trying it for free at LogRocket.com.Special Guest: Jeff Chow.