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EPISODE · Jan 26, 2026 · 44 MIN

Justus Smith: Civilizations Collapse Every 200 Years… Are We Next? | DSH #1786

from Digital Social Hour · host Sean K

Last guest at AmFest and it gets WILD. Shawn sits down with Justus Smith (Proverbs Media Group) for a rapid-fire conversation that jumps from civilizational collapse and IQ, to remote viewing, William Cooper, and why the CIA might be the most dangerous institution nobody wants to talk about. They break down the idea that civilizations rise and fall in cycles, how genetics + environment shape behavior, and why the “gap” between elites and everyone else can accelerate collapse. Then Justus goes full deep-end: MK-Ultra, black ops, plausible deniability, “controlled opposition,” and why podcast-era ex-intel guys might be part of the narrative. If you like conversations that feel like a history class + conspiracy thread + culture war debate… this is it. What you’ll learn 👇 ✅ 🏛️ Why civilizations collapse (and what triggers it) ✅ 🧬 How genetics + environment shape behavior and society ✅ 🧠 Fluid vs crystal intelligence — and why IQ became political ✅ 📉 The “collapse pillars”: inflation, immigration, demoralization ✅ 🕵️ Why some ex-intel media tours might be “controlled opposition” ✅ 🧪 The CIA’s “plausible deniability” problem + black operations Chapters 0:00 – Western culture, raising kids, and civilizational collapse cycles 0:57 – AmFest intro + meeting Justus Smith 1:24 – The Charlie interview and “getting a different side” 2:08 – William Cooper + “Behold a Pale Horse” rabbit hole 5:14 – Remote viewing, parapsychology, and the “PK Man” story 7:02 – “Lack of money is the root of evil” + why intellect matters 7:52 – Fluid vs crystal intelligence (and why IQ gets controversial) 11:05 – Ecology, development, and why civilization needs “high IQ” systems 16:08 – Elites, mutation, and the 3 pillars of collapse 22:41 – CIA talk: controlled opposition, MK-Ultra, black ops, plausible deniability 🎙️ APPLY OR CONNECT 👉 Apply to be on the podcast: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application 📩 Business inquiries / sponsors: [email protected] 👤 GUEST: Justus Smith -https://www.instagram.com/justususa 💼 SPONSORS The Light Systems: https://www.thelightsystems.com/ Discount Code: SEAN 🥗 Fuel your health with Viome: https://buy.viome.com/SEAN Use code “Sean” at checkout for a discount! 🎧 LISTEN ON 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 📸 Sean Kelly Instagram: @seanmikekelly ⚠️ DISCLAIMER The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest discussions, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and seek professional advice where appropriate. The content shared is for entertainment and informational purposes only — it should not be taken as legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. We strive to present accurate and reliable information; however, we make no guarantees regarding its completeness or accuracy. The views expressed are solely those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent those of the producers or affiliates of this program. 🔥 Stay tuned for more episodes featuring top creators, founders, and innovators shaping the digital world! Keywords: AmFest, Justus Smith, Proverbs Media Group, western civilization, civilizational collapse, IQ debate, fluid intelligence, crystal intelligence, genetics and behavior, natural selection, demoralization, mass inflation, mass immigration, remote viewing, parapsychology, William Cooper, behold a pale horse, CIA, MK Ultra, Visit Our Website at https://digital-social-hour.simplecast.com/   Presented by https://podgo.io/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Last guest at AmFest and it gets WILD. Shawn sits down with Justus Smith (Proverbs Media Group) for a rapid-fire conversation that jumps from civilizational collapse and IQ, to remote viewing, William Cooper, and why the CIA might be the most dangerous institution nobody wants to talk about. They break down the idea that civilizations rise and fall in cycles, how genetics + environment shape behavior, and why the “gap” between elites and everyone else can accelerate collapse. Then Justus goes full deep-end: MK-Ultra, black ops, plausible deniability, “controlled opposition,” and why podcast-era ex-intel guys might be part of the narrative. If you like conversations that feel like a history class + conspiracy thread + culture war debate… this is it. What you’ll learn 👇 ✅ 🏛️ Why civilizations collapse (and what triggers it) ✅ 🧬 How genetics + environment shape behavior and society ✅ 🧠 Fluid vs crystal intelligence — and why IQ became political ✅ 📉 The “collapse pillars”: inflation, immigration, demoralization ✅ 🕵️ Why some ex-intel media tours might be “controlled opposition” ✅ 🧪 The CIA’s “plausible deniability” problem + black operations Chapters 0:00 – Western culture, raising kids, and civilizational collapse cycles 0:57 – AmFest intro + meeting Justus Smith 1:24 – The Charlie interview and “getting a different side” 2:08 – William Cooper + “Behold a Pale Horse” rabbit hole 5:14 – Remote viewing, parapsychology, and the “PK Man” story 7:02 – “Lack of money is the root of evil” + why intellect matters 7:52 – Fluid vs crystal intelligence (and why IQ gets controversial) 11:05 – Ecology, development, and why civilization needs “high IQ” systems 16:08 – Elites, mutation, and the 3 pillars of collapse 22:41 – CIA talk: controlled opposition, MK-Ultra, black ops, plausible deniability 🎙️ APPLY OR CONNECT 👉 Apply to be on the podcast: https://www.digitalsocialhour.com/application 📩 Business inquiries / sponsors: [email protected] 👤 GUEST: Justus Smith -https://www.instagram.com/justususa 💼 SPONSORS The Light Systems: https://www.thelightsystems.com/ Discount Code: SEAN 🥗 Fuel your health with Viome: https://buy.viome.com/SEAN Use code “Sean” at checkout for a discount! 🎧 LISTEN ON 🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/digital-social-hour/id1676846015 🎵 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5Jn7LXarRlI8Hc0GtTn759 📸 Sean Kelly Instagram: @seanmikekelly ⚠️ DISCLAIMER The views and opinions expressed by guests on Digital Social Hour are solely those of the individuals appearing on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or opinions of the host, Sean Kelly, or the Digital Social Hour team. While we encourage open and honest discussions, Sean Kelly is not legally responsible for any statements, claims, or opinions made by guests during the show. Listeners are encouraged to form their own opinions and seek professional advice where appropriate. The content shared is for entertainment and informational purposes only — it should not be taken as legal, medical, financial, or professional advice. We strive to present accurate and reliable information; however, we make no guarantees regarding its completeness or accuracy. The views expressed are solely those of the speakers and do not necessarily represent those of the producers or affiliates of this program. 🔥 Stay tuned for more episodes featuring top creators, founders, and innovators shaping the digital world! Keywords: AmFest, Justus Smith, Proverbs Media Group, western civilization, civilizational collapse, IQ debate, fluid intelligence, crystal intelligence, genetics and behavior, natural selection, demoralization, mass inflation, mass immigration, remote viewing, parapsychology, William Cooper, behold a pale horse, CIA, MK Ultra, Visit Our Website at https://digital-social-hour.simplecast.com/   Presented by https://podgo.io/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our...

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