JW Ep 142 - Sam Roberts

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Yes, what I'm talking about. So without further ado, I wanna get to this episode of Sam Roberts on Jeremiah Wonders. Here we are, Sam Roberts, thank you so much for joining the show. How the heck are you, pal?

I'm great, now. Thank you for having me. You're great now. Yeah, well I'm getting to do the show.

You're getting to the show. Yeah, all the anticipation of when will I do the show is over? It's here. Exactly, it's been years of you trying to come to the show, it's finally happened today.

You know, we just relax, we can just enjoy each other now. There's no more stress associated with like the when or the how it's happening right now. That's right, and it feels right. I think it feels pretty good.

Yeah. I appreciate, you know, anytime somebody who does podcasting or radio who do the show, I always appreciate when they have dope setups that's just like, you know, the good sound, the good camera, it's just, it helps a lot with these remote interviews. Yeah, I was, I mean, I would like to say I was smart enough but it's not like I sat there going yes, and then there'll be a pandemic and I'll need a home studio. So I'll be so glad, but like I built a studio here in my house like two and a half years ago.

Yeah. Like as soon as we do the house, I started building the studio. So it's like when everybody was like, well we can't leave the studio, I was like, well, we'll just, they actually, the first planet serious was they go, so Sam, right now, because it was before anybody really knew how anybody was gonna handle anything, they were like, would we be able to move everybody from the show and just have them all do it from your house? And I was like, yeah, the more the mayor bring everybody over.

Sure, wow. Pretty quickly they were like, yeah, that's not remotely practical. I mean, why would we have everybody not serious in all in the same room anyway? But yeah, we're here.

Like I've had the studio from way before, we all had to do this stuff remotely. So I was very happy to just be able to jump on. Yeah, ahead of the curve. Well, part of the city, do you live in now out on these coasts?

I'm outside of the city, I'm in Westchester. Westchester. What kind of a commute is that into New York? It's like a half hour.

I mean, I go early enough in the morning, but yeah, it's not bad. I like that here. Heck yeah. I was doing a little bit of research on you and that's always fun, right?

Digging up some gems from the past. And you were on Nickelodeon as a kid, right? Yeah, yeah. Do you get asked about that a lot?

Not a lot, a lot. I mean, it's come up, but I never know, because I've said so much stuff on the radio, but I never know exactly like half the stories are from my childhood. So I never know exactly when people are like, well, I've done my research and I know that I have no idea where this is going. But yeah, I was on, I was on, figured out the Nickelodeon hidden talent show.

Yeah. And you were, you did some coin flipping with your ankles, is that right? Yeah. Yeah.

So I'm double jointed in my ankle. And yeah, I mean, so like my ankle like kind of like flips, like almost like a thumb does, like it doesn't actually come off the bone, but there's something on it where it just flips up. And so like I used to just click it. I'm clicking it right now.

You can actually. Yeah. That was not a golf guard. I sprayed my ankle before when I was a kid.

And that literally just brought flashbacks. Oh man, I literally, I started sweating a little bit when you pop that. That was like a genuine reaction. Like it really, so I did this dumb thing as a kid where, you know, you're with like, do you have sibling Sam?

Sure. Yeah. I have a brother and sister. Okay.

Same here. So you're always like at some point either trying to show off for them or like a group of friends. And I was trying to show off for my brother at the time, like older brother always trying to impress them and you know, try to be cooler on them. And we had this, this Eagles Nest where there's a little slide on the back end of it and we figured, let's make our own white trash water slide and we hosed it down and we were going down it.

And you know, of course that was cool at the time. Like just that is like, this is crazy. We put water on our own slide and now we have our own water slide. We're so creative.

And I want to keep one upping because that's just who I am is probably one of the reasons I became a comedian. But I need more attention. I stood up on the slide like on the way down. Like I'm going to stand down it because I've seen in the movies dope surfing and stuff like that.

And as soon as I hit the bottom of this slide, I literally, I'll never forget the moment. My legs went completely out from underneath me and I was floating just like completely looking all at blue sky above me and then all my weight right on my ankle. And so in the moment right before you land, like in the moment where you're just floating, are you thinking, oh, this is going to be terrible? Or are you like, this is awesome.

OK, for the first half of a second, you're like, this is epic. And then you're like, oh, no, I'm about to fall. Like I get registers real quick. Like first you're stoked because you know, you're like, oh, I probably look amazing right now.

You know, and from my brother, I'm turning and pressing him. And then as soon as like it sets in like, oh, I have to come down and there's no way I can can balance and catch myself. And I just slammed and then I was on crutches for months. And I was, I used to play like a lot of soccer and basketball.

So I was just like out for the count. And I like literally that memory came flooding back when you went. You have to go to your coaches and be like, I can't play for the rest of the season. Oh, why?

What happened? Oh, I hose down my slide and I stood down. Yeah. It's like the least athletic thing.

Like I brought my arm like skateboarding like a few years ago. And it was just like, there's a video of it that's just very sad. It wasn't even doing like a cool trick or anything. It's just me like pancaking and this event.

I mean, be like, oh, no, oh, oh. It's me trying to control my anger and not cry in front of my friends. Once again, trying to impress friends around me. And then I paid the price, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I realized I mean, I could do this thing with my ankle every time I was a kid.

Like I just I didn't know that it was a thing that other people couldn't do. Sam, you're different. You'll say. But I think I don't remember how somebody like my dad or somebody in my family told me to put a quarter on it.

Let's and so I could realize I could flip quarters. That's not like a dad thing. Hey, I want to put a quarter on that thing. Let's see what other shit we could put on there.

So so yeah, so I put a quarter on there and I flipped it. And it was like, whoa. And of course, at that time I was watching Nickelodeon. And it was back in the day when it was like, if you want to be a contestant, send a VHS tape to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And so you know, you get and then it said, all VHS tapes become property of Viacom. And so yeah, I want to do this. I really want to do it. And so we actually got out like the big cam quarter.

Those shoulder cams, right? Yeah, yeah. They take like every fan in the 90s. If you're fortunate enough to have a home video recorder, then it would be the shoulder, basically, what looks like a news cam to people now.

Yep. Yep, exactly. Yeah. So we made the video and sent it to Nickelodeon.

And like, I feel like six months went by. It goes a long time. And they just called it out for that. I don't even have that scale anymore.

It was like a newspaper thing. I don't know what was going on. I've got a puberty. I'm a man now.

I abuse. Can I still be on Nickelodeon? I feel like it's going to get real creepy real quick. Yeah.

But yeah, and then I went out to Orlando and did figure it out. And then didn't figure it out. No, I would love it at a reunion show. It's just like all those kids growing up.

And they're like, can I do my talent still? Is it going to do this? Just to see like the then and now, like, where are these kids now? Like because it's always interesting with childhood, like celebrities when they do that.

But they never follow up with people who are just like random contestants on shows. Like, what happened to this shopper on supermarket sweep? She was going for all the frozen food. And oh, she's a diabetic farmer?

OK, I guess we can wheel her out. I mean, you hear about like Beyonce on Star Search, but you never know who like who won two weeks before Beyonce? Do it with that part. I bet that would be an amazing documentary series, actually.

Like the people who basically like almost got it, like, you know what I mean? Like, like, let's say there's another singer who went up against Beyonce or like different acts, like different comics and stuff like that. That would be fascinating to see the people who almost got it. Yeah.

And we didn't realize like they got that rush like, oh my god, show business is starting. And they didn't realize that was their peak. And like the rest of their life is just like, I mean, I remember even when I was a kid, like I was so not prepared for it. I did the game show and like they fly you to Orlando and like you get to the airport and the guy with the sign has your name on it, not your parents name on it.

It said like Sam Roberts on it. That's a big deal. That's true for a kid because dude, that just happened for me, like as a comedian, like within the last decade, that happened for the first time. Like, you know, and I was just like, whoa, this is nuts.

So as a little kid, you're like, the power. I'm a star. Right. I tell you.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they drive you to their hotel and everything.

And then they they talk to you the night before. Like, here's kind of how it's going to go down. And then and then you get there the next morning, you're there for the tapings, they're doing a whole bunch of shows and there's all these people with you and you're seeing them behind the scenes and you're looking at everything and you're like, Oh my God, I can't believe this is how it works. And you see the audience and you realize that that's the audience.

But I'm on the show. I'm special. I'm different. It's all good.

You're like, the reservation was under Sam Roberts, not my dad, not my mom. And yes, I will be charging things to the room this weekend. Parents get my luggage. Yeah.

Yes. And then and then we do the show and they didn't guess it. And I'm just flipping quarters off my ankle and Nickelodeon celebrities are there going like, that's amazing. And I'm like, I'm amazing.

And literally as soon as the show is finished, they go, all right, they're on that side and they are right into a van and they drive us back to the hotel and that's all you hear from anybody ever again. And you're just like, Oh my God, like I had no, you don't have any concept at that age that if you're going to hit a high like this, there's a low right after it. Do you're not like I was not ready. The don't get as a little kid.

Yeah, you're not expecting to have a crash anytime soon after that ever, ever, this is like every moment's going to be this epic. It doesn't, you don't, you don't comprehend that I'm going to go. I mean, and all your friends think it's awesome and blah, blah, blah, but you don't comprehend that you're just going to go do the show and then you're going to fly back. And nobody's going to care anymore.

Like it happened. It's cool when it happened. And then nobody will care after that. And you're like, Oh, oh, oh, you know, now this is life now.

Huh? Okay. Right. Right.

This is remarkably similar to what was happening before. Oh, it's a massive movie star. I don't understand. That's why like, I can't, I can't imagine being like an actual kid celebrity.

Dude. It just seems like it'd be so well, that's why I love it. End up messed up, dude. Like just think of all the people who just like, for example, like the Olsen twins with like some of like the eating disorder stuff and just like Lindsey Lohan and like how, and like even Britney Spears and, you know, they go like a little, they have to have this moment where they kind of freak out a little bit, because I think it's so much pressure to uphold so many years as a kid and you don't know how to like give that an outlet or anything.

It's just like kind of bottled up inside of you. It's almost like you want them to break and then just come out on the other side and be a person. Like you got it. You got to have that break.

Yeah. So you can find the moment where you're like, oh, you're a person now. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not trying to just just preserve the high, just preserve it, just preserve it. Oh, mess this up. Don't mess this up. It's so good.

And it frees it. Save it. You're like, it's not even that good. Like I know what can be really difficult about being in any kind of entertainment or show business is you get those moments with, you know, whether it's like interviewing like an idol or something, like on Sirius XM or something, or like when we're on stage doing stand up or something, the highs and lows are so you don't expect that when you get into it and you really have to manage expectations over time.

Otherwise, it becomes super unhealthy. I mean, I think that's why when pandemic times hit for a lot of comics, you know, it's so depressing to see people that you love and like that you may even look up to all the time and you're surrounded by people who are making you laugh and stuff. And then it's all just gone real quick and you're like, oh, I need to, I need to check on some things like mentally and emotionally. Especially if you realize, even if you thought you had a handle on it, you realized you just had a handle on it until the next fix.

So like, you know, you had a handle. You're like, I'm not prepared for these highs and lows. You're prepared for the lows. As long as you know, you can get back up on stage, you know, within a couple of days, like you're not prepared for, I'm not going to get that again for a while.

Like there's no creative outlet. There's no adulation. When I broke my arm a couple of years ago, I, the first couple of days, I was really depressed because I didn't know how long like I was going to have to be in a cast and stuff. And luckily it wasn't that bad of a break and I could still play saxophone.

If I held my hand a certain way and I, the cast came off pretty quickly actually. And I just for months held the mic in my left hand and just held the broken arm just like this and hardly anybody ever noticed. It was really weird. Like I just had like a Lego arm on the right side and then I would just gesture more with, you know, my face and stuff like that and hardly anybody would ever notice during shows.

And it's like you're saying, like I was super depressed until I realized, okay, I'm going to be fine because I have these little vices to get me through until you get through the other side of things. Yeah. Yeah. And it's, yeah.

And that's what, yeah, where it gets bad is when you don't know that until the fixes stop until the thing stops. And then you're like, Oh, this is what I was waiting for. Like I have to figure out now without that thing, how to get through this. Yeah.

Do you remember the next time you felt a high like that as a kid? Because it probably wasn't for a long time that you felt anything close to being that memory of a surge of energy. It probably was years and years and years. Yeah.

I mean, you know what? It was probably senior year of high school. We, I did it was in some of the plays, but I'm not a, I'm not a song and dance man. And so I never got cast in the lead of any of these school plays, you know, I just like somebody being like, listen, I'm not a song and dance man by any means.

I have different strengths, but I will get the job done. And if you need a high me in this play, then I'll see it through and I'll do my best. Yeah. You need to know your limitations, right?

You need to be up front with that. But they did a dramatic, just a dramatic play with no singing, no song and dancing. And it brighten beach memoirs. And it was like, you know, brighten beach memoirs.

It's like a comedic play. And I got cast in the lead of that play. And everybody said, I did a good job carrying, like the character, like carries the whole play. And so it wasn't until that run of three shows that I felt better, my senior year of high school.

How many years of a tweet was that? I mean, you're talking a solid. Had to be at least six years. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, just fiendin. Just just trying to find that. Dude, just like hanging and just like, you know, trying to do mascara's and yeah, that's all pain in my nails cutting my thighs.

You know, that's all good. No, it's all good. No, it's all good. It's all good.

Yeah. Nobody sees if it's on the inner thighs. All good. It's fine.

It's totally fine. Everything is fine. Everything's OK. When did you get into wrestling?

Was it like, was it, I mean, most kids who get into it or at a very young age, I kind of like see it and they're like, this is my thing right away. Was that similar for you? Yeah, like 100%. I don't like I don't I was so young that I don't remember actually getting into it.

It was just my thing. Like I liked. I mean, it's a little little kid. I liked he-man and Thundercats and Ninja Turtles and wrestling.

Did you imagine figures and stuff growing up? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, big time.

I still have most of them. Like everything is still. Yeah. That's great.

I've got a chunk of mine back in Kansas that are just like a bunch of Marvel and DC ones, but I regret like I got to an age where like we were like moving or something. You know, like there's like a family move that happens and then your parents are like, do you really want to hold on to the stuff? And you're like, well, if you put it like that, I mean, I guess not. They're like, you know, there are some less fortunate kids that could really benefit from these.

I'm like, oh, you're going to bring a less fortunate kids. I mean, I still want. Okay. We'll give them away.

And like, dude, like all the original animated Batman series, I had all those action figures and stuff and those are all gone. I had to rebuy them a little bit later. Like I said, I don't to fulfill that. Like the ones that got away.

Absolutely. I uncovered like my old WWF Hasbro collection and I hadn't like in my head. They were all pristine, but I didn't realize they were all beat up and sun faded. So I had to start like rebying them so I could have like the versions in my head of them.

But I've never I've never met was why I would never I will never put my kids through that guilt trip of like, do you want to get rid of this? Like, even when my wife tries to throw out one of my kids toys, I'm like, what are you doing? What are you throwing? Yeah.

Throw this out. He loves this. Like I have never in my life met an adult that's like, no, I was really glad I that my parents gave away my toys. Right.

Nobody's got it. No, but he's got it. No, everybody's over. Everybody rebuy them.

Everybody regrets it. Nobody's like, I was really glad I helped some some of the needy. I was really glad that they had toys. No, ever, ever.

That's like as an adult, like we can look back on moments where we're like, oh, I'm happy. You know, I, you know, I, you know, maybe gave to this organization or something. But like as a kid, like you're right, you never look back and you're like, I'm still glad I was giving as a child to other kids. It's like, no, now I don't have that to experience for the rest of my life.

And it's also because like our parents didn't understand it because those of us born in the 80s were the first generation that had good toys, like they had terrible garbage toys that of course you would throw out that they would eat like all their toys were dangerous or just rotted away anyway. Like there was no collecting. There was no nothing, you know, dude. One of my favorite old SNL sketches is Dan Ackford used to do this salesman character.

I don't know if you you remember this one, but dude, the different toys that he would pitch is literally just these things that would easily he's like, yeah, here's a bag of glass. You got a glass and you know, you know, you're talking around and you know, and then like, he had like this like the cellophane bag that he put over his head and like, it's so great. It's just like spoofing all those dangerous kids toys of the 70s. Yeah.

Yeah, but that's what they had. So they had like, so they wouldn't consider they didn't understand that at some point, in your life, you'll be like, man, I wish I still had that collection of band, the animated series figures. It's true, man. I've got like a couple left.

I've got this one Batman, like he's on like a purple motorcycle where like if you pull his back backwards, it charges up the, you know, the motorized thing and then you set him forward and then the wheels. And it takes off. Oh, man, I still have that one. I need to, I need to do that just to to feel that sensation again that I had as a kid the amount of times I pulled that thing back and let it go and go, it's crazy every time it happens.

Look at how fast it goes. This is so realistic. I can't even believe it's. It's a motorcycle.

Just slow. How the mechanics even work on this thing? Like your parents going like, you've got to say this. I think the pain and truth.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Cool, man. Cool, buddy. Yeah. Keep it up.

All right. I think we got a slow one on our hands. Do we handle this now or do we handle this later? Do we just let them kind of be?

Yeah. I remember when, because I collected action figures for a while as a kid and I remember it was a big deal to me when Sam and Jamie's Spider-Man came out because those action figures were some of them. They were like superposable. So like, yeah, yeah, they had like all the fingers and stuff that you could move.

And I was used to more of the blocky kind of Batman figures growing up and it blew my mind. I'm like, their fingers can move like ours. This isn't so. What is happening right now?

This is exact. This is like a human person, but small. Yeah. Yeah.

I remember. Yeah. I mean, it was like a it's a real progression. Like the first wrestling action figures quote unquote didn't move at all.

They were just big hung up like Harvard room at somebody. It would give him a concussion. Like, yeah, they're heavy. And yeah, and then they would come out and like their arms could move and you'd be like, oh, this is amazing.

Yeah, it's what we get to the point where it's like they have like little abdominal crunches and and 38 point of articulation. But also like I look at their action figures today, like wrestling action figures today. Like I'm buying them still. And when I buy them, I'm like, I don't think I would even enjoy this as a kid.

They're literally just making them for adults now. Yeah. It reaches a point where you're like, there there's not fantasy anymore. It's just like, oh, this is just a this is a realistic 3D printing laser cut of a human.

It almost becomes more creepy at some point, but it's so realistic. Yeah. It's like a it's like a it's like a modern. They just released a 1970s superstar Billy Graham figure and I'm going like, yes.

And I bought it and I'm sitting there and I'm opening it and it's like all this articulation and it looks perfect. And I'm setting it up to display it just right. And I'm going, what kid in 2020 is like, oh, I'm falling out of 1970s superstar wrestler Billy Graham in my collection. Who's asking for this other than me?

Now I grew up super religious. So when you said Billy Graham, the superstar pastor hit my mind immediately. And I was like, you have an action figure of superstar pastor Billy Graham. Am I not on to something that I should be?

I need that. That's the one your parents wouldn't make you give up. Yeah, exactly. But knowing my dad, my dad would see it as like, oh, technically that's a false God before you.

You should be focusing on God and not the sender of the message. Like he was super anti Harry Potter when it came out because there was like, there was like, there was like, I don't know if it was, I don't think it was NPR. It was probably like, there's different stories being covered about how it was about witches and stuff like that. And my dad's like, absolutely not.

Absolutely not. So he couldn't have been thrilled with your infatuation with the dark night. Oh, I mean, Batman or did it or was the darkness over? Like in real life, make like my parents the way they discipline me.

Like when I look at it, like, like on a macro level, it makes zero sense sometimes. Like like Batman was fine. But I remember having, do you know the character Black Cat? Sure.

How she's like kind of busty and yeah, do I have a calendar that I had on my wall with different Spider-Man heroes and villains from Marvel and it got to July or whatever. And it was like Black Cat all busty. And my dad, I remember coming in and just like, what is this garbage? That was what?

He's literally the dad from the Twisted Sister video. So like, so like, so like, So that was basically like what the Beastie boys interpretations of parents were. So then how do your parents like deal with you now when you're going on comedy central? I'll be like, Oh, mom, dad, they're not going to air my skin because I was blowing this guy.

They're way worse than a black cat. I don't think my dad's still I still don't think my dad knows really the full context of that because my mom and dad wouldn't really watch that show. Like my mom was like, I like it when you boys run up because it's silly and fun. But she goes, eh, it's too mean.

This shows to me and I don't like it. I'm like, everybody. My dad, he's definitely not seen some of that footage for sure. He there's no he's just now starting to be more active on Facebook.

Like because he's a new wife who's more on it and stuff like that. So she'll show him things now. Like if it wasn't for her, she probably still be out of the loop, but he will see things and he'll be like, he'll comment like occasionally, I wasn't too big fan of that thing. Little, little too much, little too much to make a fan of that.

Yeah, I mean, I do appreciate their very face value with everything where if they don't like it, they'll be like, not your best. Like they'll be like straight. Yeah, they're like, we would tell you if it was good, but like we're not going to sugar go to like, because I put you know, I'm putting out so much stuff that they feel comfortable like, yeah, I didn't like that one. It's not like I'm doing one thing every six months.

And I'm like, Father, do you like this parody music video that I did? Right. Yeah, you're like, yeah, there's like eight things a week. So you're like, all right, you're like this one.

All right. You're like this one. Yeah. And eventually it's like, yeah, that's pretty good.

Were your parents straight growing up or what kind of what kind of upbringing did you have? Yeah, I mean, they weren't religious at all because they were both raised very religious. So they went, you know, that's what happens. You either say the course or you split off in the other direction.

I don't know if that might have been what brought them together. Cause like my grandfather on my dad's side was a Baptist minister. And my mom's mom like lived in the church. So like it was super religious, but they were big time like on it as parents, like hyper aware of everything going on.

My dad was definitely super disciplinarian, but not. Did you get a little or the switch or anything like that as a kid? No. No, there were a couple of spankings, bare handed spankings, but there was definitely like my mom telling us as kids that she used to get the switch so that we could, you know, we should really be pretty pleased that that's not happening to us.

Oh, yeah. Like what I went through, you don't want that experience. Right. Right.

Right. All right. Fine. Fine.

You're right. Now, will you like as a dad, will you do the spanking thing eventually or will you be, you know what I mean? Have you thought that? Yeah.

Yeah. I can't see it happening. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The whole thing or current either.

Like it just feels like a relic. Like it feels like this is what people used to do because they didn't want to watch their kids. So you're just like scare them so that you can just be like, no, I don't think he's doing anything bad because I'll beat him up if he does do something bad. I'm supposed to just watch him and explaining don't do this because that and then you watch him to make sure he doesn't do it again.

Like that's kind of more where I'm at. Like I just keep my eye on him and also, you know, I feel like I would feel horrible. Like I don't even like upsetting him. I mean, you know, you got to yell at him sometimes, but I feel like if I'm sitting there and he's crying, I'd be like, I feel like a terrible person.

See, that's the, that sounds like the logical thing. Like you just saying it like that. And then like that makes you think of all of our parents before us like, you guys were sick. You got off on this stuff.

I mean, what kind of people hit their kids? You know, I mean, you start analyzing. You're like, how was that even a thing? Yeah.

Yeah. You're like, wait, wait, you said it was logical just now than to do it. Any other ways just discuss you. I'm sick.

I got to understand. It was a different time. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. My dad had a, my sister was a shoot act up a lot and he would on family road trips. He would pick a switch from the tree and set it on the dash. So while she was looking forward on the drive, she would be looking at the switch just in case she acted up and sometimes he would make her go pick the switch that she was going to use.

Yeah. That was, that was my mom's mom's style. Yeah. My mom said that she would always have to go pick her switch and then that would be the thing.

Like you're like, Oh, no, and I know it's coming and it would never be a block either. It would never be like pick your switch and then it was like, okay, I just wanted to scare you. It was like, no, now I'm actually going to use it. I'm like, this one thing.

This is just a two part exercise. Here comes part two. No, my. We were just like, we were just made hyper aware that my parents were providing everything.

So anything can be taken away at a moment's notice. Everything can be taken away to moments notice. Like whatever it was, whatever you enjoy. You get to do that.

The air you breathe can be taken away by us. Right. Right. Yeah.

And also my parents were, especially my dad, what am I to my parents were both very good at maintaining punishment. So like, and I find I guess I got older. I knew that a lot of parents would like punish you in the moment and then you can kind of talk your way out of it and kind of it wouldn't be as bad around. But like, if my dad was like, if you get anything less than a C, you can't watch wrestling for three weeks.

And I get like a C minus and I go, it was just barely. He's like, right, it was just barely. You can't watch wrestling for three weeks. And I get like eight for two weeks in a row and I go, can I watch wrestling this week?

And you go, I'm really proud of you, man. But no, no, you can't. It's three weeks. That was the thing.

And it would be like, that's the deal. And so, you know, I think that's left me with like, no, like, like, and you don't even feel bad about it. You're not like, like, why would you pull on my heartstrings? We made a deal here.

We made a deal here. Like, we're on good terms now, but of course you're still punished. Like, yeah, it was three weeks. Yeah, I'm not wearing on this.

It's pretty, I'm being straight with you. Yeah. You want to get better? You want to hang out?

We just do a lot of wrestling. Yeah. I'm like, well, what do we do then? Jeremiah wonders to brought you by Canai Pro Gear.

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Fanning Out. So I reached out to people online and they reached right back. I said if you could ask Sam Roberts any question, hit me with it. And they sent in some questions and I think a seam suggestion or two for us.

So maybe try out. We'll see. We'll see we get to that. This one comes from RRBG podcast on Instagram.

Ask him about pro wrestling, specifically what he thinks of Paul Heyman and Roman Reigns together. I mean, I think it's a fabulous act. I talk about wrestling a lot on my wrestling podcast. Obviously I don't want to inundate your audience with the minutiae of pro wrestling because pro wrestling is like a weird thing where if you're really into it, you could talk about it for hours and hours.

Literally that could be if you said all we're ever going to talk about is wrestling. If you're wrestling fan, you'd be like, Oh, it sounds great. But if you're not a wrestling fan, the minute you dip into even a hint of minutiae, it's like this sucks. Turn it off.

Is there like a cliff notes version that you ever give people like on stuff? No, I refuse. Like if somebody really I don't do it. Like I put you really blood out, man.

If you ride with me, you die with me. Okay. And there's no such thing as halfway crooks. And, you know, that's my philosophy on wrestling.

Like if I get the vibe that somebody really wants to know about wrestling or if somebody's really like into it and it's like we're going to start having conversations about this, then it's like cool. But if somebody's like, So what's the deal with this wrestling stuff? I'm like, I mean, I don't even have the energy to get to that. Like if you really wanted to know, you wouldn't even be asking me if you really wanted to know you would go on YouTube.

You would find out. You would turn off wrestling show. So check out Sam's wrestling show. He's got, I mean, many podcasts and stuff where he talks about it and that'll cover his viewpoints there.

Long story short. Yeah. Yeah. I got to go ahead and answer that.

Yeah, this week's podcast I talk in depth about how great it was. Okay. Perfect. Multiple people ask this and I'm guessing it's an inside joke from the show, which you may have to explain to me, but Sean Fitchner on Instagram.

Are you a chocolate chip muffin type of guy? It's got a real big laugh from you. So I'm very curious the back story about it because multiple people said some kind of question like this. Because it's those little things that like you say in the moment, like I don't know, I get really annoyed.

I really don't like I don't like stupid questions and I don't like small talk. It is clearly like you're not invested in this conversation. Like don't try to get me invested in a conversation that you're not invested in. That's why I don't like the wrestling question because I know you don't care.

I feel like you're condescending and I don't like it. Right? Right? So it was one of our ex staffers on Jim and Sam.

I was like he was like going out for breakfast. He was like, can I get you anything? I'm going down to Starbucks. I'm like, I'm going to go to the cold room or whatever and can you grab me a chocolate chip muffin?

I was just hadn't eaten before I left the house, you know, whatever. And he goes like, I didn't know you were a chocolate chip muffin guy. I'm like, I was furious. You just saw red.

You saw red immediately. I think that's got to be the dumbest, most unnecessary response to a statement I've ever heard in my life. Why would this conversation? I don't even like I'm saying I'm above talking to you because I'd be perfectly happy talking to you about anything else.

But there's nobody on the planet that I want to follow that statement with. I don't want to talk to him about it. So yeah, so I end up on the air and talking about it. So this is really awkward, man, but he's actually calling into the show right now.

I'm going to patch him through. Okay. Okay. Sam, Sam, how are you?

I'm good, man. How are you? Good to hear from you. It's great to hear from you.

I appreciate you calling me. So I was just wondering. It is weather. It's weather.

That's what I thought on weather. I mean, you know I watch wrestling. It's just a stupid question to add. Did you see that undertaker match three years ago?

Which one? WrestleMania. Yes, I saw undertaker at WrestleMania. Yes.

Hey, do you think it's real? Yeah, I mean, yes. I think it's real. Yes, I do.

Yep. 100% legit. Run to Starbucks. I know you're talking to a muffin guy.

I just want to know. What's that said? I mean, that's said in Stone Valley, Raleigh. It's one of those things where once you say it, like I associate that with you.

You're chocolate chip muffin Sam to me. The rest of our relationship. That's why we don't have a relationship, man. Why we don't have.

Well, they are not trying because I had jump on the text. They hit you up on the Facebook messenger. No, I get them. I get the messages.

Yeah. Okay. Um, here's. It's fine.

We just, we just lost them. I don't know where, what happened. Oh, with that guy. I don't know if you dump them on your end because I just, I hit my dump button.

Yeah. It was just too much for me. Yeah. I saw you getting actively worked up.

So, you know, I'm glad that you let him go. Yes. He asked you. I like him.

I mean, what kind of a question is any rest of your wrestling fan? Of course loves whole coven. I'm going to go deeper than that. I hear that question and I go, this is a guy who doesn't know anything about wrestling that is trying to just have a conversation about a thing he doesn't know about.

And it's like, why we can talk about anything? He's like, you see that, uh, Andre the giant documentary? Yeah. You think he was really that big?

You think you really? No, they made it up. No, no, no, no, it's a fantasy. It's a sci fi.

Yeah. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah.

But I mean, those conversations drive me insane. Well, when it's like a real conversation, we're having a business. We, it's kind of an avoidable a lot of times with what we do, especially like, you know, prepping for shows or whatever or getting offstage or after shows just like, there's always like, there's always a moment where like, like, I think that now people have the cell phone to automatically kind of go to to kind of like, it's kind of their signal like, well, I'm kind of checking out of this thing. Like, um, you know what I mean?

But before in the twenties, like you just, you just sit and look at each other and there wasn't good outs for conversations. Like, there wasn't, oh, I got to take this or anything like that. You just be kind of stuck in a room with people. But like imagine if imagine if you had a joke about Mr.

Pib, right? And you broke that joke. You've been telling the joke for two years and you get offstage and somebody comes up to you and they're like, Hey, you like Mr. Pip, huh?

And you're like, no, man, it was just funnier to say than Dr. Pepper. Like I wrote it two years ago. I don't know what to tell you.

Give me a break. Please. I don't want to. I don't want to do this.

No, this wasn't. You just saw the thing on stage. Like, I would be like going to like, you know, James Hetfield and being like, ah, trouble sleeping. Huh?