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I heard you were doing commercials for Applebee's. He's a wine self submitting. I'm self submitting several tapes for Applebee's. Yeah, yeah, that'll be your Moses Mike.
That'll be your weird. I've never I know these before. So you can do that when you're when you're done. But like it's like an old radio set up where you know like it's like DJ over here.
But also he's also. He's also. Let's go again. Can is on the ground traffic right now.
His helicopter is actually stalled recently. What is going on in the ground traffic on the four oh five right now? Hey, my oh. Okay.
I'm all that major traffic. I've got the down right now. I'm lucky now. We're going to go out of the way.
Okay. I'm not really sure of the listeners can really understand quite what you're saying. It sounds like you're speaking some kind of alien language. Can we get a little bit more clarity on your mic?
What's going on on in the traffic right now? Well, we find out it's not like this. All right. Definitely didn't clear up at all whatsoever.
Ken, your very sounds like shrapnel is in your voice or you've been abducted by aliens. What exactly is going on there on the traffic on the highway right now? The battery is getting out of control. So I decided to like my power.
But I'm incredibly strong to eat and that green sparks and how we get these that are in on fire. Okay. Once again, very hard for our listeners understand. You said the Getty is on fire.
I believe that was the last thing that I caught out on the highway. Is there anything else that's going on there that we can report back to the studio? We are directly to the getting on fire. Which set off the oil painting that has shot into the sky and oil from that painting has brought a 747 down.
Okay. It's 47 with the most influential people of 2018. Okay. It sounds like a real the day.
The music died situation over here at the Getty with the 747 coming down. We're going to cut back into the studio live here and we're going to bid you farewell and hopefully you don't die today. Oh, tough day. Tough day.
Can't have a rough one. Yeah. You know, you've got these helicopter guys like waiters at a restaurant. You know, there's a high turnover rate.
Real high turnover rate. You know, it takes a real great person to be like, you know, what? This will be my last job. Yep.
I don't think I've ever learned helicopter guys full net. Well, as a waiter, have you ever been like, I will die for this job? 100% when I see it to top and we have ourselves Joey Fatone at one table and have you ever worked with a joint? Have you ever waited on?
Joy? As a waiter? Yeah, 100% and he does not know what a margarita is. I made him what I thought was a margarita.
The bartender is not in it was a real thing. I put a bunch of is that mexicali and he's which is authentic. It's authentic Mexican food. Anything that says Kali in the title, you know, it's going to be really authentic Mexican food.
If you want your food served to you by a deeply struggling actor who is in the height of struggle, if you like pain and your refried beans, you should go there. This this all the food is made. Why one eye is on a pair of sides for the most humiliating audition in the world. So you're doggy bitch number three.
Okay. Mmm. Me me a little doggy bit. Okay.
Why these? Okay. Well, maybe I can get to if I do well in the room, maybe I can get to doggy bitch number two, maybe. But that's asking a lot.
So I don't want to we're going diverse with doggy number two. Real diverse. Stock white guy for three, though. Stock white guy for two.
We are accepting white guys, but they are doing accents that are so cancelable. They are they are hitting re-re so hard. Also, this is not a part of any union. So you might if you do get caught for this, you may have to pay penalty, which is worth more than the gig.
Not only that, the whole gig will say we never met this guy. He put in his own tape and we had nothing to do with this. Actually, we're a shell corporate, not even a real corporation and we're out of here. We're actually facade for another organization.
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The cult is getting actually another hit of subscribers. Would you ever join a cult? Already dead. This is a real thing.
Well, my parents said I guess I was born into a cult. My parents for the first whoops, 13 years of my life were involved in a unsuccessful cult called the way. See, they only talk about the successful cults. They don't talk about the unsuccessful ones.
I do watch things like the vow and what was the other one? The Netflix one. And I do get jealous that these cults were just killing it. They flourished.
Yeah, because there's a fun period to start up cult. Yeah. You don't want to be the failed cult because it's one thing to be in a cult because it's like, ooh, embarrassing, right? But a failed cult is another thing because the other ones, they usually have like a two month period where it's fun, everyone's fucking and everyone's like lit and go of pain.
And they're a bunch of adults screaming and doing yoga in upper Oregon, but we never had that. We just had my dad yelling and what he thought the old testament and what do you think I meant? Because I grew up super religious, so I'm curious. Were you homeschooled?
I wasn't homeschooled. No, but I looked down on homeschool. You do have a homeschool vibe. I know.
As someone who was homeschooled. I was not a knock. It's just like, oh, I feel comfortable with you ever since I think we met in 2009. Oh, he gets it.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, you have a homeschool vibe that you have a very, I would order milk at a bar. Dude, I love milk. No, I do.
This is a Midwest thing. It is. Right? It is a Midwest thing.
It's for sure. That milk comes with everything. Yep. Right.
It's a strong bone. Bring it on. Bring it on. Milk.
Bring it on. Milk. Milk. Milk with caffeine.
Milk for teens. Now in very. Got milk. I bet you wish you did.
Got team milk. Team milk. It's my new company that I'm trying to start. Ooh, that sounds gross.
Team milk. Well, you're going to hate the graphic. If you hate the name. Okay, so what's the graphic?
Let's hear a pitch. It's a teen who's kick flipping over a pre-tee. Those pier snips are out. And they're lying down on the pavement, right?
The pier snips are out. Yeah. And milk is waterfall shooting out into over all the other drinks. Like sunny D and over Monster Energy.
It's like a stream. It's like a blast. Yeah. Yeah.
Almost like silver surfer style, right? Over there. Oh, yeah. And then there's a little gomaz who's surfing out of the milk wave.
He's on top of that. He's surfing over all your candy sugar. Energy drinks. You don't need.
Right? Gatorade. Blue. But we can't say Gatorade.
Right? It's called like aid for fate. And it's going into a glass of milk. It's always hot.
It's always hot. It's always hot. It's always hot. I like milk cold.
I don't like it hot. It defies God and logic. You put it in the freezer. I like God and logic.
It's just everything. Oh, man. And the milk is always hot to the touch because teens do a little different. Because guess what?
When your mommy gave you milk, it was cold, right? Yeah. Daddy gives you milk because he got into my study, right? Okay.
I have some of the sour milk. Yeah. I'm going to sit on my lap. Yeah.
It's always cold to the touch, right? Uh-huh. Dad's like, hey, let's read this last chapter of War and Peace. Right?
What words jump out to you? What does that mean? Hey, do you ever want to try a cigar? No, I don't think cigars are for kids, right?
You try a cigar, right? A couple cigars. And you're like, oh, yeah, the cigar tastes terrible. That's great.
You know, I put this little whiskey on your bottle tip and then you call me down. So maybe you have a full glass, calm you down, right? And then your daddy's like, okay, well, you've had mommy's milk. Have you ever had daddy's milk?
Okay, where's this going? Continue. Milk 14. Oh, it's milk beans.
It's not your dad's milk. Fetching you in a hardhouse. It's fed you in a hardhouse? Yeah, your dad didn't do that.
No, but that might have been part of the cult that you're talking about. Oh, guys, like six o'clock, they'll come inside. Dad, why don't you feed your milk for hardhouse? Like, do you bring a bell or anything like that?
Like, yeah, you'd be wearing a bell. It was a really bad septum piercing. That would be a little bell on there. And that's how you're dying.
Keep track of you. Oh, was it from the deviator septum? A little septum, right? Yeah.
You had a little bell on there. Yeah. And if you wanted, you know, dad would be like, oh, come inside. I'm just drinking milk for my hardhouse.
Well, everybody grows up differently. Yeah. So how is this not? Yeah.
I mean, that's kind of what it was like, I guess. Okay. So what would your dad do with you? Okay.
Well, he had something that was called like getting older milk. Getting older milk. What's that? Okay.
Well, rather than like a guy skateboarding over like a bunch of like different sodas and stuff, it's just other kinds of like adult drinks. It's like coffee. It's like wine. It's like cigarettes.
It's like, it's just says the word faith on it. One of the drinks is just faith. It's just because yeah, but it's also like when you open it's like, because you got half faith. It's like a George Michael thing.
Right. It's like an old man who is on not a skateboard, but more of a walker. And he's slowly and it's just, it's not even the milk doesn't even clear the other drinks. It's just a mess.
It's older. It's older. It's much. Oh, it's chunky.
Yeah. It's real chunky. Have you read chunky milk? No, but I think I remember the commercial.
Do you remember the commercial? I think I remember the commercial. Yeah. I think I remember the commercial.
I remember the commercial. They're commercial. Yeah. Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you something about it. I'll tell you something about it. Go grab some milk, slide it down and throw it like silk. You're getting older every day.
A real contemplation of mortality in the jingle. Yeah. Yeah. I remember they had to pull the commercial.
Oh, it affected a couple of different ethnic groups at one point. Yeah. Well, there's something happening in 2010. It's pulled the commercial because one of the commercials went a little too far.
Uh huh. I can't remember what that commercial was. It was something like it started off with me chimes and then they cut it. It said me Chinese immediately.
It's a super bowl of time. Dude, I remember seeing it as a kid when I was like, I felt like a kid at heart at that year when it came out, even though it was in the 2000s, you know, and they said, you know, me Chinese and I thought that it was going to be like the, it was going to go into the me play joke that whole whole thing. You go, yeah, beep, beep, beep. But it was, it just cut.
It went out like the Janet Jackson thing. I think that was the first time I saw Emma Stone on screen because she was in that commercial. She was playing the Chinese guy, which was an interesting choice for casting to say the least. Yeah.
Well, this is what got her the job on a Woha. They saw that and they're like, she can handle it. Absolutely. Yeah.
Yeah. And that was the first time I was like, who is this? Yeah. It was the eye makeup they put on the like whatever they were doing with the eyes.
It went past her hairline. Like they went. She looked very fast. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. I was really upsetting. Yeah.
I don't, that was like a clear shift. A lot of people are like, Oh, 911 as a kid, 911 and after. For me, it was that commercial. That was like, Oh, I'm an adult now.
Yeah. It was kind of like, where were you the day that that commercial aired? I think a lot of us, a lot of us that if you're 42, like Jeremiah and I, about to be 43 next week. 44 sorry.
Oh, really? Yeah. You were lying about your age for years. Hollywood, Irish twins.
Yeah. Yeah. And then we got called on it really bad. So Joe Rogan recreated the Carlos Mancilla moment where he called that Carlos Mancilla and he came up on stage, the original room and back then this is, this is 2009.
You got to remember, like this place was not what it is today. Things were different. And this, this actually got edited out of the Showtime documentary about the comedy storm. Actually, all of this was actually edited out of the Showtime documentary.
Yeah. So we just thought we'd release this now. So when we go back into everything, just know that this was part of the show. Basically just you could cut out this and put it directly in the Showtime documentary and everything would still make sense.
I think. Yeah. So Avery was on the keys. Avery brought you up.
Yeah. And you started talking about, Oh my God, things are so crazy when you're 24 when you're 24, they say that like no one likes you when you're 23. They never make a song about 24. I did have a lot of Blink-1, 82 material at that time.
A lot of it. So let's talk about sex, but enough about all the small things. And Joe was backstage and Joe, I mean backstage is in the hallway and this one Joe had a thick, he was a ball. He was like this is 2019.
So you had a thick perm right and he gets up on stage and he before he even hits the mic, he's like calling you bitch, bitch, you're a bitch. And I was like this joke that we had going for a long time. Yeah, but they got really uncomfortable because Avery tosses him a mic. Yep.
And then Mike back. I didn't even know he had one in the corner of the panel. Insane. So then he gets up and he goes, I know you're not 24.
I know it, bitch. And he ruined me that day from my age. Yeah. Yeah.
And so you were wearing those zip off cargo shorts. Very popular in 2009. Still khaki. Yeah, still khaki light color.
This was like an orange mixed with the tan. Oh yeah. Where if you sell it, you think you're having a stroke. Also, if you washed it at the wrong time, it might turn into one color or the other.
You don't basically want to get any heat. No. Why you're wearing it? It looks like a predator vision.
Yes. It would be a different color. Yeah. Right around that set.
Very thermal looking. Most people did not remember you, but could not quote a single joke of yours because they were just looking at these pants. They were visually in all of my pants. A mix of like fish skin and predator vision.
There's so much happening. Yeah. Somebody patterns. Which I got as a note later from Mitzi to like maybe she shouldn't have advised me.
Yeah. That was the only reason I was wearing them because Mitzi told me to. A lot of people don't know that that's how Q started. So people think it's Achan.
Well, a lot of people were finding maps on Jeremiah, which is what you were going by at the time. Right. Everybody has stage names. And you were Moses the Conqueror Storm.
Hong Kong was my catchphrase. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And you ever notice ladies? You ever notice ladies? Hong Kong. That's my favorite joke you told.
Oh, yeah. Do you ever notice ladies? Hong Kong too? Because of breasts.
Every time you say it, it just brings me. And I don't think I was doing a voice for sure. Yeah. Yo, you never notice these ladies every time they're in the club.
They got a big old gulp. Fingers may to beef jerky. They're gonna ask fingers. They're gonna walk.
Oh, oh, oh. You know what I'm talking about. I'm not gonna be pulled up. I just posted one of those clips on Instagram today.
Did you really? Yeah. The footage was all grainy. I bet it was from so long ago.
It's really blown out. The insights are not doing well. You ever clicked on the insights here? You're posting the same thing.
Yeah. I tried to upload a flip. Oh, really? And it was all blown out.
I'm tipping a special on all flip camps. Yeah. Really? Well, I love the urgency of a flip camera if anyone doesn't remember them.
The battery lasted about maybe 90 seconds. You'd immediately turn it on. It was all built around that a USB charging thing flipped out of the body. Flip.
Flip. Flip out the pop of it. You think it's like, oh, flip. I could be able to see myself on a screen.
Turn it around. No, it's that the USB flips and charges because guess what? It needs to constantly charge. Yeah, because the batteries would drain easily.
And the camera itself, it doesn't really know true HD. It knows black and extremely white. Yeah. So, you know, if you were white fellas like Moses and I and you were performing on a stage where there was lights hitting you, just imagine every ghost doing standup comedy ever.
Every ghost and you would send these into things you thought. Oh, you were gonna get booked. Flipped. Flipped cam.
The audio is barely there. It keeps you wanting more. Yeah, it's more curiosity of like, what am I listening or is that even audio? Does he just stand up?
Is this a performance piece or is this more of a debate? I remember having the flip cam and being so proud that it could kind of fit in your pocket. You'd for sure see it. It was not like you're gonna tear your jeans for sure or zip off cargo shorts, but it's not an easy fit.
It's not even close to the quality of an iPhone. I was the guy who would bring like those grip tripods with me and I would try to bend it around like a pole while the flip cam was just like hanging out on the side of it. And it was always the angle always ended up slowly drifting as the show went on. So it was like sideways by the end.
Well, that's angle. Uh huh. If you're doing a set of the complex on Santa Monica, you got to get a good set tape, you know, you got to hear the four people in the room going, ha ha ha ha ha. So important.
And these are all the scenes that this is actually the extended cut of the Showtime documentary. You said, just keep that in mind. We have to keep reminding you because it feels so different because we just all the cotton and it doesn't seem like this fits at all. But everything we're saying was in the Showtime document.
And verbatim is probably true. It was as early as August 26 when we saw a cut. It was a screener. They're like, Hey, we're going to do like a virtual read, whatever.
Do you have you watched your first tape out that you sent? I watched it and that I sent around. Yeah, the first thing that because I think the first tape is like, obviously that's going to be shit, but the first tape that you're like, okay, there's some work with something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. I think I've reviewed some of them and they're pretty rough. I had honestly, the hardest thing for me is I recommended, I never recommend people and I recommended a buddy who was going to be in the same city as me. Like it was going to line up and I was like, Oh, I'm going to go try to get a nose.
I'm going to try to get a spot because I was this was before I was headlining or anything. So this is quite a while ago. So I'm like hosting or featuring. So I'm like, maybe I can go to my cousin.
And I sent my friends tape. I was trying to do him a favor. And the Booker just goes, this guy is way too green. That's all he wrote back.
And I was just like, that hurt me more than like me getting shut down because I was like, someone you had signed off on. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what the disconnect is where people have such shitty tapes.
They're real bad. They're real bad. They're really at Conan on other various things. So I get like a sneak peek at everyone's sets that they send in.
Sure. Because his inbox is just flooded with him. He's not releasing these. I'm like, when he goes on the room, I'm purposely watching that.
I've been furiously masturbating to them because I've accomplished this thing. But the quality is so low on most of them, I'm sure for something that's like, Hey, get me on TV. Right. No work was like, it looks like everyone put Vaseline on the lens on the lens and they put it as far as possible.
They like knocked on the door of the next venue and they're like, Hey, you know, you're a pizza restaurant across the way. We're a comedy club. Can we put the camera? They put a GoPro on the waitress.
That's just like, like, like, strings and stuff going around. Yeah. Yeah. That it's like, what did you expect?
How are you? This is unwatchable. Yeah. And I feel like you really feel it now because because of the lockdown, every comedian now has been forced to become a YouTube comedian who was a comedian that was looked down upon more than a guitar comic.
But now every comedian is on a purest. I don't do this. I don't do this. I just fucking do my sets eight sets a night for four people each show in Jersey and then I'll go to New Orleans City.
I'll get a fucking slice. I'll get back. I'm fucking right. I'm fucking eight myself because of construction workers can work.
I can do eight sets. And I fucking get up there, I fucking scream, I fucking do more shit. Those guys are now a YouTubers. Yeah.
They're going up and hey guys, they put on what they think a personality is. They're doing their own editing, their own graphics, no shade to anyone that's trying. But it's funny because they spent so many years talking shit about YouTube comedians or even people in Jason that just do things online like Trevor Wallace or whatever. Sure.
People would talk shit about him and it's like, it's coming. It's a big old reckoning for you. I know. Now you have to adapt.
I know this mic just angle it. I'm wondering if that's covering up half of your eye. Do you know what I mean? Oh, because you see the video.
This is one of these video podcasts. This is one of the podcasts you have to do your makeup for. Yep. In it.
We're both in. I want to talk to you about this. We're both in movies. Yeah.
You had to do with social media. You were in a horror movie around the same time. Right around the same time as you. A lot of parallels.
Very religious. We should touch back on what religion you were in. Yep. But move that here relatively the same time.
I moved on here in 09. What about you? Late 09 basically 2010. I was July of 09.
Okay. Yeah. We were in the same shows. We took different paths.
Yeah. We're like a it's interesting. It was like we started around the same mics and stuff like that. And then we just went kind of different routes with all within the LA bubble, which is weird that there are even that drastic of scenes.
Right. But there really are. There really are. But it was a very clear like I keep looking at the stuff you're doing and I will imagine myself like oh, this is the alternate life.
Sure. If I would have taken this route. Sure. Yeah.
So then you were in a it was like a horror movie slash something around social media called I Lived. I lived. I was lower case. Yeah.
It's like the name of like an app. Yeah. I you know, iPhone, I this I that I lived I dash Lived. Do you remember the trailer for I lived?
Of course I do. That's the trailer. All the comments said you gave away way too much. In a world.
In a world. How did they go? In a world. In a world.
In a world. They go much lower. It would be in a world where social media is the media of the masses comes I lived with the guys at the end. I got before 85 minutes of him going around.
Oh no. I'm scared. You be a little bit. We see breasts at the 14 minute mark unrelated to the black but just got to get it in there because there is a black guy in the movie but we forgot to edit him out.
So he is there but it's weird that he has no lines around 37 mark. You know things are going a little weird. They're like, oh, they're not sure what the monster because they don't have the budget or they're trying to build suspense and around 44 minutes. You know that the monster is nobody was pointed to that.
It's about $42 in a neutral grain value bar. This movie was made for coming this July. You could illegally download it immediately. It wouldn't be a problem.
Jeremiah will post the link. All right. Okay. Pretty close.
Wow. I think I've seen that trailer in a while. Yeah, it's been a minute. Which was weird too much away.
Yeah. That's what was funny is like there's multiple comments. It's like, why did you just spell out this? Which that's what a lot of trailers do is they give too much.
Too much away. There's I like the old trailers from like even from like the 80s and 90s where you would watch they would sometimes like air on the side of going way too long and giving too much or you'd watch some of those really old ones where you're like, I have no idea what this movie is. It was like a short trailer like like it would just be like passion like random words and then it's just like the title card comes out. It's like so rindity.
Like that's like what this is Robin Williams film. I've never seen that happening with Robert De Niro. Like what is going on here? Right.
Or there will be the inverse thing where it is over explaining. Do you like a trailer with with a lot of info where just tell you nothing. I would much rather prefer the nothing because sometimes all not. Not much trailer.
Yeah. Because if I go and blind to something and then 30 minutes or so and I can usually tell like, oh, this is going to be a good movie or it usually doesn't take that long. You can figure it out pretty quickly. Oh, this isn't moving at all.
Yeah. That's a. Oh, god. This isn't moving at my pace.
My adult milk pace. Yeah. The worst move I've ever seen was a movie called Inception just because I did too much research on it. I watched featurettes.
I heard the crack the code. I heard all the hype I listened to it all and people were like, Oh my god. I think it was also what? Twenty one with the movie came out.
Fucking the most mind blowing just fast. You've ever had of every dipshit friend that's like the like they haven't read the power of now and they've only been high once thought this was the most mind blowing thing. So going in, I was like, Holy shit. Here we go.
And what the fuck? So the road's all bendy and that's it. They're asleep during a car accident. That's it.
Worst move I've ever seen because of hype. The trailer for Unfriended. What was that like? Because you just went to Netflix.
I just saw you post. Yeah. It's trending on Netflix now. It is trending.
It was at the top 10. There you go. Saturday? You never know Moses.
You never know. Are you getting tweets yet and stuff? Oh yeah. From just tweens.
It doesn't matter though. It doesn't matter. This was a movie. That's a pair of eyeballs.
That's a view, dude. I lived. I lived. I probably had a bigger budget than we had.
This was not only made for no money. You paid to do this. I remember you got you paid. I did pay to do this.
I mean, there was really no money. They gave us a bunch of points on the back end, which is a term in the industry for we have no money. Will you get points from this? There were not going to rent for the past now five years that they gave me points.
No fucking way. It's just gonna be coming out. So let's go and shout, and fucking go pros. It's an experimental idea.
During the process of the movie, it was a fucking mess. We're so close to the cast because of it was a mess. We're all just venting tomorrow. You were doing it together.
Yeah. The script is really bad. Eventually, the writer was like yeah, I know. I just got to- I just got to draft down, but just feel free to insert yourselves into it.
That ended up being great. Then really a shit ton of editing went into it. Then reshoots and then Jason Blumseyl and then bought it. me and the main girl, Shelley Hining, reshot a lot of our stuff to make it into somewhat of a plot.
But there was a, there was a real thing. There was, we've thought of the production office to shoot like voiceover and like pick up scenes. And there'd be a suggestion box for endings because the movie made no sense. There'd be an actual suggestion box that anyone could put things in.
There was a mis-off-ings. That was what the screener, like at the screener or something. This is like, this is like, this is just in the production office of like, listen, if you refill the coffee pods and- No ideas. We gotta finish this somehow.
Cause the major question is like, if someone's attacking you on your computer, why not just close the laptop, just leave. So that was the major problem. I guess when we was gonna come out and let alone be the only thing that's been paying my rent for the past five years. You never know?
Yeah. Because I mean a lot of- What year did you shoot this? 2014 came out 2015 in theaters. Which I was like, holy shit.
I came with it. That is right around the same time. Mine was like, I think 2013 maybe was when we shot it and it came out in 2015. Yeah, this is what I mean with like all the parallels in our lives where I've constantly looked at you.
I'm like, oh yeah, really just upbringing. This is around the same age. We're both in our 48s. Yep.
This is, you know, this is an alternate path. It's weird cause we don't talk a lot, but you are someone that has a corner of my eye but keeping an eye on it's like subconsciously on us to be like- It's the same you. Yeah, yeah for sure. And then another one's bad and one's good.