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JW Ep 240 - Morgan Jay

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Oh no no no no no no What the fuck is going on? Jeremiah Watkins, what the fuck is going on? We got a sound check, sound check Do you like the song? Remember a song by Cisco we went Thought the thought thought thought Yeah, yeah, welcome to the podcast Welcome, here we are Welcome to the podcast I'm excited because you do music and I do music Yeah, it feels good Yeah, no no, anytime I link up with somebody who does music I'm like, ooh, let's have some fun And your own stereo effects That's right Oh, my favorite jam is on the radio right now So what's going on man?

Are we starting to be gone? We've begun I like this one Yeah, yeah Oh no no no Oh oh oh yeah Let me ask you a question Hey, you're a father now You're a father now You're a father You're doing that nasty shit You sucking that snuck out the nose Tell us Jeremiah How does that go? It goes Yeah, yeah, yeah I'm gonna suck that's not real That's not a good, that's not a nice man Does that have the chorus effect on it too? You know what I'm talking about?

I think it has like a harmony to it Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I think it's stronger and here's maybe yours goes through that I don't have yours linked up to this Oh, that's okay That's what's up But I have another box if we want to get to that later We're not gonna make it too little We're not gonna make it too I don't wanna make it too difficult for you to do I mean, it doesn't matter Wait, I look at this as a little playground You know what I mean? Little playground Little playground I don't know, I feel like we're similar ages But I was looking at old family photos And it was a photo of me on a playground with my mom And I was looking at the playground And it looked so unsafe It looked really dangerous Oh yeah, well yeah, the playground used to be It was like gravels, wood, metal, like tires It was like, yeah, it looked like we could Chunk the trash We could easily die Yeah No, but real talk, I don't know If you had anything in mind you wanted to talk about But I asked you straight up right before we started So Jeremiah's a father as we know And I've seen videos on the talk on the internet Where parents will suck the snot Right out of their baby's nose Like I can't, it's unfathomable But what he needs to describe I guess is also that We're not sucking it out like snake venom There's like a tool Nor is the baby yelling You gotta suck it out! Hurry, hurry! You're sucking out of my nose I saw a video where this is what you do Yeah, oh my god, yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, so there's this tool that you use Where there's a couple different ones There's one that's a squeeze one And then there's another one that's like a syringe kind of thing That you suck out of it I prefer the one that is like a turkey baster kind of thing And you put it up Your kids' nose And you The problem is like it's a very timing thing Because they hate it They literally are trying to swat it away Because they don't like it So you squeeze it and then it fills it up And then you have to quickly You're pulling out real quick It's really gross But it helps them breathe so you have to do it Because when they're little Especially when you started going to daycare They get sick every other week Because there's a different kid with a different cold Who's coming in and out But that's them getting stronger, right?

Oh dude, my immune system now Pretty freaking strong You don't have to go on the road at all No, I'll do any injuries I never was too bad about that I did some shows during COVID I had the height of the first wave I was in Miami doing shows And you would not think that there was COVID there I was like in a hot, sweaty nightclub Oh yeah, I did a handful of those gigs where I was like Yeah, if I'm going to get it, it might happen tonight Yeah, I managed to avoid it First time I got it, allegedly, supposedly was in May I was here? I think a lot of people recently haven't been getting it And I'll tell you what, a month later I got sick With some other random two-day bug And it felt worse than Obviously I was back, I was back, so I don't know If I haven't done anything to do with it But it felt worse than the vid Worse than the vid Worse than the vid Yeah, man, so what's going on here? I know this is your podcast, so I'm asking you questions No, no, you're being a great guest and you're being a great co-host You know what I'm loving about? That's a jam I brought a guest on our show today You brought your old guest with you?

I like books, somebody, you want to do a podcast? I'm going to call them in That's a really funny thing, I might do that on another person's podcast Like a piggyback kind of thing? Yeah, I feel like you wouldn't mind And I think it'd be a funny thing I think it'd be a funny bit if something did that It'd be a funny bit, you know? Yeah, for sure I'd have to find an actual famous friend So if the participants' podcast wouldn't be upset or so It randomly makes sense I've got a bigger guest for you instead of me John Mayer is going to hop in real quick and do some songs with you Hey John, can you take the last 30 minutes of my salon?

I've got to head out of here I have a show in Dorens right now, how do I get to it? Do you like doing the podcast? Do you like doing it? In the sense that I started one and it feels like work to me It feels like the most work that I do So I, some episodes are actual work, if that makes sense Do you know what I mean?

But when I'm vibing with somebody, it doesn't feel like work Absolutely The work really is honestly having to more review it later The performance is easy, you know what I mean? Just talking with friends, we haven't had a chance to catch up in a while I've had a great opportunity for us to hang and make some music I think maybe I'm exaggerating this I think it was at Bear Burger, we were doing it That might be too long ago, but in my new year I saw you at that That was one of the most recent shows, we probably saw each other But that was probably one of the last shows we did together Yeah, Perilla, Skiburgers, Gullowspot, it's now like a fancy time That's Monica? Yeah, but I was about to ask you something Fuck! I'll figure it out I'll figure it out You know what I'm really dealing with right now?

So I'm about to go to the French festival, I leave on one city Go to the French festival Well I'm going to New York for a couple of days And then I'm going to Scotland, I'm a little there for five weeks Are you running like a little bit of a film or whatever? Full hour, just about every night Is this a new album that you're going to be working on? Like turning it into? Yeah, so I have the last special on YouTube And then I know what I was going to say So the work does come when you have to go through the stuff, right?

Yeah, yeah. Do you have an intern? Do you have a thought about that? I have a producer at this podcast who's been helping edit and produce this podcast for a while now And he is awesome, his name is Shoutout to our boy Gage T.

Arena Gage T! Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go! Gage T. Arena You're an hot, not 7.1, the mix Gage T.

Bringing you the hottest clips! You've been knocked out! No, so I got an intern last year around August Yeah, I just did an Instagram post And he helps me with the podcast, he edits, he subtitles all the clips Well that in itself is huge Huge and then he also, when I can't He'll go through the footage of the of it And he'll sit in, he'll do what you're doing with the piano He plays the piano Oh that's great So I have a guest and he plays the piano and I'll be like hit me with some vert And then yeah, you just get a... So he just...

Hang out and make some songs but it's probably like to over hit us with some chords So that way you're not playing double D to focus on the creative part Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I feel like you're a voice teacher Momma, momma Momma, momma Momma, momma Momma So you did a one note with all those chords, I don't know what you were in Do we got any music? Do we have any music? Sounds like it sounds like the music for when you see a tiktok or a certain video where they find a puppy or a kitten on the side of the road In a plastic bag and it's like they save it and it's like y'all just like y'all are lying Y'all are fucking lying You just took a kitty or a puppy and you wrapped them up in duct tape And you buried them in a ditch and you saved it Fuck you, you're a fucked up person Fuck you, oh Have you been seeing these tiktok where it's a nurse and they're really sad And they're like in text with no music, they're just sad And it says just lost a patient People are getting real It's insane, dude My favorite ones are the people who are differently abold or disabled or have such a sense of humor about it Like this one guy stitched a video and he was like The first video was like they say the music you listen to Manifests and then it cuts to him in a wheelchair and it was like all Gift up, stand up It was like that was the music it was listening to He was wheelchair about it, I was like this dude is a great guy Yeah at least he has a good sense of humor about it You know, yeah, that's funny That was great I talked about this a couple of times but I think the funniest joke I ever told was a riff I was doing it open mic in New York and it was out of music open mic in the act performing He was black dude blind and he was playing piano It looks great, it looks great to have the red light on everything I always like I know I get anxious too, dude, I literally am always Bro, you're just like me Oh my god, I'm the same way I stopped, I said I know this guy I have to, I know like I hit it, I know I hit it I know I hit it, I know I have to look at it one more time to make sure You know, I heard a story and I'm gonna get back to this little joke I heard a story about another comedian, I like this dude a lot, really nice guy I heard from a friend that he had gone to the airport This is a community got to the airport He was so neurotic about whether he closed with a garage door or something Right They called his friend and was like, can you please go to my place and make sure the garage door is closed And he did it was close, but it was just like really funny My mom used to do that with our garage door Yeah And literally one out of 100 times it would be open Wow Yeah, she was like, did you kids look to see if I closed the door and were like Oh no, no, no, no, no, I got that feeling, I have this sense of anxiety I'm told I have a general anxiety disorder but I don't know, I don't believe it You got gads, baby You got general anxiety disorder, baby Gads, gads, oops, son Today's episode is brought to you by Gads For those of you who have a general anxiety disorder out there Make sure you follow the hotline, find a friend that knows what's going on You're not going crazy Gads are general It's not like you said general herpes, but you said General herpes I wonder if there was a general named General herpes I mean he would be He would be laughed out a lot behind his back Hey And B I think he would be a very strong world person because he'd have gone through a lot to climb the ranks with a name like General herpes General herpes Oh, back to this dude who had a really good sense of humor So I went after him, he was black, he was blind, and he played piano And then I had to go after him, and he was truly And I actually messaged him Like you followed him in a show? Yeah, it was like an open mic back in New York like bad I used to do music open mics instead of like the comedy open mics And I got up on stage in the first thing, I said Wow, real cool dude, another black blind piano player Real original bro, place erupted in laughter Included in him, great sense of humor Right, he got it, he understood He gets it, he thought it was funny Yeah But you know somebody else would be offended on the opponent I always find that the people who you're joking with are relieved that you're including them Right, do you know what I mean?

They're literally relieved Because they've seen clips or they've been comedy shows themselves And they're like, nobody's gonna go near me They know that that's most likely what's gonna happen I do like Andrew Schultz for example, he really does go for the jugular with everybody Goes in baby He goes in, did you see any special? I haven't seen it yet I know he released it himself No, I think he just released it like today Oh right, or like very recently Yeah, that's where like this weekend or something What he's doing is really inspiring Basically he bought his ship act from a major streamer And was like, I'm not cutting these jokes out Honestly, I'm hoping that the direction that that goes I'm hoping that it will be a ripple effect I'm actually personally not a huge fan of the YouTube self-release model Really interesting That's how I did my last one, but only because pandemic It just happened that way No, I understand, here's the thing though What I think, the pros of it is this great exposure for us Cause I release a lot of stuff on YouTube for free That's just what I do, like with my standup on the spot series We're putting a ton into every production of that And you know, cosmonies, etc, whatever The problem is with that model of giving it away for free Is that it's almost spoiling the crowd in my opinion Of like, then taking for granted like, what is free? So like, I hope that this sticks the Schultz model of Releasing it for five or ten bucks on your own Still on your own, I'm a huge fan of putting stuff out there on your own But I'm hoping that people will be willing to wrap their head around that And not like, well, why would I pay for this when 50 other comedians are releasing it for free? So that's why I have like a slight issue with the current YouTube model Yeah, I hear what you're saying And it's like, I feel like we're kind of at this weird, uh I feel like we're at the press of the way comedy is going First of all, like with TikTok, TikTok, Tock Chames, My Life And you know, as comedians, like we're not supposed to steal jokes or things But like, that's the whole model behind TikTok, is like stealing trends and stealing jokes and then doing it I don't do that, but um It's like with the stitching of videos and stuff, or what do you mean?

Or just like, um, you'll see comedy or? Yeah, you'll just see like ten different versions of the same type of joke Not only that, people won't even like, people won't even go to the way to like use their voice They'll use the sound of the original person's joke And then they'll do it and then it will go viral Oh, the lip syncing thing They'll lip sync a joke It's crazy, yeah I mean, it's just sort of crazy how like, shit is regurgitated on that app Yeah And then, I see creators who get really upset when they find out like one of their bits or things It's like, honey, you're part of the, this is what you sign up for This is what it is, everybody's upset, it's like no, that's just Dude, I had somebody comment on one of my crowd work videos with my guitar They're like, you're doing the thing the Filipino guy does Do you know Jared or Guzman? Yeah And it's like, hey bro, I'm actually buzzing in and we just like kind of do the same thing I don't know what to tell you Yeah, yeah, we're both like literally like a new comedy around the same amount of time It's like whatever It's like every comedian is telling jokes You could just say that they're doing the same thing I mean, on TikTok, it's the same thing like all post crowd work And then they'll get negative comments and they're like, there's every comedian have to dunk the crowd And all this comment like, yeah, the reason why you know Yeah, I don't know, although now I've adopted a new kind of philosophy towards it Which I'm trying out inspired by a friend of mine as a musician And he's, and he'll post the same 15 to 30 second clip He'll just record it different ways, different like outside in his car, whatever Over and over and over and over again And he does get people who are like, yo, why the fuck are you? We're done with this, we're tired of it Yeah, but 90% of the people who see your videos on TikTok are all new people And so if you think of it that way, you might lose people, but you also might gain another 10,000 people Weird And this kind of is our, so I have been posting like the same verse or the same thing of a song or two I think we're in a different position if you are putting out a comedy song Yeah, we're in a different position because songs have I think replay value where jokes kind of don't Have the same type of replay value, I mean, people will have realized in a bo-burner and shit all the time Of course, so, and I mean, I've gone to shows where I've done a one-nighter here in whatever city And I'll request a comedy song And so you're like, huh, I guess it's weird, different, so we can post it over and over again Or different versions of it, I don't know what I'm going with this point, but it's really like in a wild west of like how to make money doing this Yeah, but it's exciting though, it is exciting With the YouTube stuff, I mean, I'm debating releasing it on YouTube again But with more, like the last special release, it was even supposed to be released, I made it for like a thousand dollars Yeah, and I ended up getting a little over half a million views on it, and for somebody who was unknown It was a huge deal, you know, that's awesome But I don't know, we'll see, I feel like I'm talking too much How have you been playing guitar?

About, since I was like 16, about 20, almost 20 years? No, correct me if I'm wrong Did I know you before you were taking the guitar on stage? Well, I've been living in a life for 10 years, and for the first year I lived here, I did not use the guitar Then the answer is yes, okay, because I have some memories of seeing you go up without it, but then I started seeing you bringing up like all the time Yeah, I just took the, I had audition for JFL, my sixth year of comedy Doing standup, my audition in New York, the year before, then I auditioned in LA the next year And then I kind of was like, not happy with, like nothing happened, I was like upset I was like, oh, and then you spend, you just spend all this time running the same five to six minutes And you're like, this is, this is, this is, this is, yeah, yeah, yeah And it goes, it will go well, you know, but then nothing happens And then you put all your like hopes and dreams, and they're like, this goal that you've been kind of taught Yeah, put all your hopes and dreams into a dream Which you believe will be the turning point in your life But that's not what's going to take you to the next level You need to believe in yourself, you need to know what brings you joy What brings you happiness Not some arbitrary title like new faces, like introducing by Netflix Not some top ten list, not some article from Vulture or timeout, that doesn't matter Your value comes from with him, remember that shit You, somebody special Who are somebody special? You are somebody special Special, special, special You're so special, so special Thank you for taking the time to let us do that, of course But you know, I would be happy to get your fellower, any of those things Yeah, I'd draw that, I'd draw that No, it's so funny, like the people who, I've never done it, I didn't get it this year And I've been doing comedy for about 15 years, and I'm fine, fine Did you showcase the whole thing?

How did they do it this year? Was it videos or was it in person? No, it was audition call back And you did the audition call back? In the call back, yeah And it's funny, like I was actually glad to audition at the very least because Every year, almost for the last ten years, I'd have my comedy peers come up to me And they were like, hey, so when's your audition?

And I'd be like, I don't have one What do you mean you don't have one? I was like, yeah, yeah, I don't know I don't want to tell you, I have raps, I have things, and I don't have one And they were like, what the fuck, imagine how I feel, like you're having it, like I wish I had one, you know what I mean? Right, right, right Finally, I got an audition after like almost ten years of, by the way, doing fine, I'm like making a living, doing comics, you know Which honestly, for a lot of comics, that is the dream, just you know what I mean? And I recognize that, and I'm like doing really well, and you know, it's kind of funny, like now that I am doing so well, that it does mean less for sure Like, you realize, kind of like, I remember the first year I toured colleges, I did like 40 colleges in a year, right?

Dang, that's a lot of colleges, yeah Ever since then, I averaged like between 10 to 30 colleges a year, depending on like the year That's right And then, um, I remember that first year, I got back to LA after like this long, it was like a month long run And I was like, I remember for like so long, I was just so bothered, I was like, why am I not on that show? How come I can go on that line up? And then I came back with like, $30,000 from like a month of work, you know what I mean? Yeah, and then it kind of puts like, things in the perspective, you're like, why the fuck was I buttered about a 10 minutes set on like, some show and the hot show that's in town, whatever You know what I mean?

You kind of realize like, sure that it has value in some way or another, but it's like, that's not gonna feed you You know, so there's like a whole audience of people out in the rest of the country who like really fuck with you and like, they're the ones who are gonna pet your bills the rest of your life, you know? Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's an all-crowd like downtown. To the crowd that want to the for sure, dude. You know what I'm saying?

So, there's just so many ways to do it, and I wish I had this respect, I wish I could have perspective as like earned, right? It's not given, so. Yeah, well, yeah, of course, like you wish you had it like all certain perspective like year one in the comedy, like so you chill out a little bit. Totally.

But, you know what, just six times for us to be like, alright, I need to calm down and just focus on what makes me happy and the people who are liking myself happy. Yeah. And there is people, and whether it's like, I tell people this now, like, if you have a thousand people, if you only have a thousand people that follow you and you're like creating art or work, just try to picture those thousand people in one room, you know? And that's a lot of people, you know what I mean?

Yeah, it is. It's a lot of people. And don't like be down on yourself, dude. I've talked to, I've talked to like 18 to 19 year olds of DM, they're like, I want to do music too, and nothing's happening.

I'm like, you're like, I just started making money like five years, or 35, like chill out a little bit. Chill out a little bit. Chill out a little bit. But the problem is, their role models are these people that are going viral, and it's not real life.

It doesn't make any, it's not a career. It's like a couple of clips, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

I think you can easily go down that path of seeking validation in the wrong way, and then it's just long term, you know? Yeah. I mean, I know for a fact people with 10 million plus followers, and let's say TikTok and a half a million on, whatever, on Instagram or whatever. And you know, those people are making money off their, whatever they're doing, they're influencing, whatever you want to call it, but they're not making like millions and millions.

They're making like a salary job between, you know, 100 to 200,000, which is really great, by the way. I'm just saying like, it's nothing to laugh at either, but they're also working their ass off too. Right. In different ways.

In different ways. So I don't know. There's no right. I don't know.

I'm going to this. Do you have a musical family? Yeah. My dad was a pop star in Argentina.

That's real. Facts? That's a fact. Yeah.

Really? Yeah. So he died when I was six, but he was a pop star in Argentina, but he was around like, I'm gonna say our age. I'm 35 right now.

Yeah. And he may be a little bit younger. He was probably in his mid- he was an older guy. He was 20 years older than my mom.

But late 60s, he was doing like, you understand, anything that's popular in the US arrives in other countries, like at that time, like a decade later. Yeah. So in the late 60s, he was doing like surf rock shit. Like, you know, those videos were like on the beach like, da da da da da da da da.

So he was doing that shit in Spanish. Okay. Really? Along with like covers of famous songs and things like that.

But he toured all of South America and all of Europe. He was post, I have his records at home. I digitized the shit. I could put a link to it.

That's freaking dope. Yeah. And so when he moved, you know, any artist who makes the jump from any country to another to American particular, you know, it's very hard and almost, it's very hard. It's very hard to like go mainstream in that country, right?

So he became a chef in New York. He was known as the singing chef, because what he would do is this is real. He would cook him really great meal, he was an amazing cook, amazing chef. And then he would come out with his guitar and sing songs to the guests.

About their food? No, you're just singing like vo la da da. Just classic, Frank Sinatra songs and classics. Like that's some mode.

Like shit like that. Like in the 80s and in the early 90s. He died in the 93. So like it was like the mostly through the 80s and then he met my mom who was working in the courtroom at the restaurant.

But to answer your question, like that's the most musical person in the family. And then they got me into piano lessons really early, which I hated. And then I picked the guitar around 16. Do you still play piano?

I got back into it about a year and a half ago. I was actually really good at doing classical piano, but it's a different piece. Like truly hated practicing. If I could go back in time and do it again, if you're a parent or somebody who wants to do music, I would highly recommend learning how to play chords and jazz and progressions and learning how to solo and stuff like that.

I think in the long run, that's just like way more fun. I think classical piano and not to nerd out will give you a lot of great skill and dexterity, but you're not going to have the same kind of fun. Yeah, yeah, sure sure. But you know, but then the singing kind of came along and the song ran and came along.

And between you and me, when I picked up the guitar, I just for a summer, I wrote two songs and I was like, I'll just take these and run open mics and stuff. And I was like, I'll see how this goes. And it went really well. But I remember being so nervous.

I was shaped on stage to start out to do the singing stuff because I just felt like it was so weird. You know how it is like how in America, at least how people look at music comedy. Yeah, until it's good. Then it's like, dude, you're epic.

You know what I mean? So, bro, there's so many examples of good musical comedy. I don't know to tell you. Yeah.

But I'm told like I'm going to Scotland in a week or two, they love that shit. So I'm really hyped on that. So I think it will be a bit of a hot. You know, I'd be in the tunnel when you have high interest for death.

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That's awesome. Yeah. I hear that's Amore. You mentioned that with your dad.

I think I'm my dad because we used to go to the Olive Garden as a family and that song would come on. My dad has a very deep voice and you'd be like, when the moon is the sky and I go big piece of time from Kansas. Oh, my Kansas. Kansas City, like open park.

Yeah. Yeah. I did a knack of convention there this year. Okay.

Cool. The convention center there. Great barbecue. Of course.

We were known for man. So we got burnt ends. Oh, yeah. Where did you go though?

Oh, I, well, the last time I was there, I just went to, I just got in the hotel I was at. They were actually really fucking good. And then a year or two before that, a friend of mine lived there and he took me to a place. I don't know the name of it, but it burnt ends as far as barbecue goes.

I think is my preferred. Oh, it's amazing. I preferred like barbecue meal. I was like blown away by how good that shit is.

It's really good. It's really good. It'll put you on your butt. Oh, like it'll make you go horizontal.

It was like it was burnt ends. They gave me some potato salad, a couple of some pickles and like two pieces of bread. And I might even got a piece of corn. So I should was just although I can't really eat like that anymore, dude.

Why would happen? I had lost my voice a couple weeks ago and I went to the ENT. And he was like, you have terrible acid reflux. What?

And you have to cut back on meat. You have to have smaller meals. You can't eat late. You can't drink carbonated beverages.

You cannot have a set of foods. I catch up like tomatoes, like no fried foods, no coffee, no alcohol. Because that will burn your vocal. No garlic on your life sucks now.

But for me, I think it's just within a lot of it. You can't eat the barbecue. Can eat the barbecue. Oh, I'm sorry.

We're both like trying to help each other. You want to do that? I'm just a little bit of sauce. Can I get a piece of rip?

Or a little bit of a hoodie? Can I get a big sausage in my mouth? I do vocal exercises every day. Do you?

I do. What's something that you can teach me as a vocal exercise? This is going to look weird on camera, but I'm going to do it because I think it's good to be able to see. First of all, I do about 10 to 15 minutes of yoga, stretching my intercostal muscles.

If you don't want to do full yoga, just literally for vocal exercises, really? Just to stretch on my body first because you're going to be using, you're going to be breathing a certain way. I don't want to go through that. What I've actually thought about doing is doing the course for comedians of just like 20 to 30 minute vocal warm-up slash workout and tips to help comedian.

To a friend of mine, how to do a weekend? He lost his voice by the third show. After the second show, he was fucked. Because he's pushing and screaming too hard?

Yeah, and just sort of like, you've got to take certain things into account. So when you're doing, let's say you have a week of college shows, which there's times when I've had three or four colleges in a row. You're traveling from hotel to hotel. You're going to have an hour each night.

You've got to factor in that the people are going to want to meet you after the show. You're going to have to factor in that you're going to probably eat shitty and then place your out. You've got to factor in that it might be winter and it's going to be super dry. So you have to think about all these things, right?

You're not going to sleep as well. You're going to forget to drink water. So you already have to remember all, you've got to do these things. I feel like most comedians, I'm like a theater trained person, will not think about.

I know that lame as saying, but how does somebody who loses or who loses or who loses? I know who loses or who loses on the road. It just happens a lot. Yeah.

So what do I do? Okay. So just basically you want as much relaxation in here and here as possible. And one of the things I'm actually doing this online vocal course just right now is like, you bite your tongue?

And then you just sort of like, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, hmm, because it kind of is teaching you to not really use those muscles here or here. When your tongue is not engaged, you're not going to like engage these muscles and you're going to realize you can make any noise or any sound just with your vocal cords. Because what's going to happen, you're going to compensate by squeezing shit in here, right? So, you know, a little warm up.

So what causes someone to lose their voice then? Not breathing properly, not being supported in your breath. Not breathing from here. So there's a couple of things you could do.

Like first off with the breathing exercises, I will like, shh, and push all the air out. I'm not going to breathe in. So I'm pushing all out. And until, and I'm only going to breathe in my absolutely half.

Because what's going to happen is all the air you suck is going to need to go down here. Because most people they breathe up here. Okay. So let's try this.

So let's push it all out. And we're not going to breathe until we absolutely half. Okay. So I feel weird.

Let's also swallow this alive in our mouth right now. So we don't swallow saliva. Shh. I don't know if it felt like it went there a little bit, but it takes a little bit of getting used to.

Yeah. You know, because I saw your chest a little bit. That's okay. Yeah.

So you do, you're going to do that. And then when you actually take the breath, you want to hold the breath up here too. So this is starting out. So like, essentially you're learning how to like, you want your body to do it.

I mean, you know, you won't have a one and a half year old. How does your, how is your baby self fucking loud, bro? You know what I mean? I'm not saying your baby's a cry, but how are babies so loud?

With no training, they seem like they can make unlimited amounts of noise and crying for hours and hours. Yeah. And when you see them breathe, you want a good example of how you're supposed to breathe. Look how, because a baby's not taught.

Look how, they've even told us this in theater school. Look how a baby breathes. They breathe with their whole fucking body. They're just like, they're, like, they're like turning into a balloon.

Yeah. They breathe with their whole body. But it's, but it starts from here. You know, using visualizations, like pretending like there's a balloon in your stomach.

So you'll do, okay. So essentially I'll do that a couple times. And then I'll do, I'll keep doing it. But instead of going shh.

I'll go. And what you want is a steady, consistent, yeah, like, like, like, like, you're grilling. What you want is a steady, consistent, uh, prolonged sound. And what you're doing is you're teaching your muscle, your stomach to, to slowly, uh, dole out that air, you know.

And then when it's out, uh, like if I'm singing in the rain and I'm running out of, if I'm running out of air, you don't want to see anything up here move as much as little as possible. So I'll do it again. And you're like, you won't I don't think you'll see my stomach in this angle. But, you know, like, ah, and you'll see like this fill up and like not this.

Right. I don't know if it might move a little bit. But overall, I saw the the stomach. Yeah.

And you know, the other thing that I learned in theater school, which is so if you're doing any sort of film or TV show or play and you're getting measured for a costume Costing your outfit let it all out because you're gonna appreciate that when you're on set and things aren't tight Does that make sense? Oh you want them to measure it for like for when you're gonna be like out your most filled up Yeah, like for after you eat or whatever. Yeah, otherwise you're like, oh, yeah, I'm uncomfortable for 10 hours on set Yeah, oh, but here's the here's the weird stuff that like I don't like to do in front of people but I'll do it here for you Oh, so first thing we do is Okay, we make our faces biggest possible so be like Okay, like as big as you're right and then you make it as small as possible You do that a couple times okay, then we're gonna take our tongue and we're gonna put it at that and we're gonna like this over This is all this is all an effort to relax the muscles in your mouth your jaw and your tongue, right? This is also our course for going down on your significant Your mouth we're getting ready to get even we're gonna go I definitely just spit up something Really cornea what does that do you're just you're literally just like picking your tongue as a muscle and we're kind of just trying to tire That muscle out have you ever had trouble falling asleep so you flex every muscle in your body and like tensile to like I suppose do that force your body to relax.

Yeah, let's send you what we're doing Okay, so you know do those that you're gonna do that After you do all those things I know it's because I thought you like you got to do it in a space You have to do in a space that you're comfortable in and You're gonna kiss noise you're gonna go kiss to the right Oh You're gonna go down to the left And then you'll do that a little bit and then what you're gonna do is you're gonna write your name with your initials And you're gonna do this until your whole mouth after you're gonna feel like a sore We're not gonna do that but it's gonna get tired and once it gets tired you want to use And use your tongue you stick out Essentially and what is all this doing exactly? Just bringing attention focus to all these things in your mouth that you never think twice about mm-hmm And you're gonna realize how much actual tension you kind of hold and your job and your job This is because ideally you don't really want to be You'll you'll know when somebody is like doing all this shit with your mouth that is completely unnecessary one thing that I have had to work on Especially just over the last couple years the more voice over and stuff that I've been doing is Some some cartoonish. Yeah. Yeah is mouth noise is a huge With that stuff little things like that It's unbelievable when you focus on it when you're listening back to recording and stuff like that the little Well, they can get that shit out of there Can't they get that out but you as the person who is auditioning you need to get that out yourself because you're not really wanting to send a Take you know how to edit that stuff luckily Yeah, it's also performance thing too because you can if you dial in your performance It saves you so much time at the end where you're going through it if you nail your performance you're not having to edit that much Yeah, you know, yeah, it's also like a matter of being hydrated Oh, yeah, and unseeing and stuff like that the last thing I do provokly and I I I am a mumbler.

I'm from New Jersey and I mumble If I talk fast, so I have to work extra hard not to do that I put cork in my mouth and then I'll go through the script once with the cork and then when I take the cork out Everything is like almost perfectly and unseated. It's very interesting. So you you take this very seriously I take it seriously because I don't have the voice of like will Arnett or people who have There's people who could smoke drink and party and then show up the next day and sound fucking credible. All right, you know And I'm not one of those people I will lose my voice.

Yeah, so I have to be extra in fact I would like leave loud places if it's so you're not hey, what's not the worst thing you do for your voice Also, like I'll go to my way to talk a little bit higher now I'm with people, you know, and I lean in, you know, I think what is talking hired to well I think it preserves your voice right because that's why Michael Jackson did that that's why he did that And if you look at any pop star like Beyonce or anybody who had a beautiful has a beautiful voice They all talk really soft. They don't whisper they talk soft whisper it whisper is also really bad for you So they talk they talk they talk like this and they do interviews they sound because they say everything bro Hey, Morgan, it's their money. It's no joke. I mean, it's kind of that I mean kind of the Justin Timberlake mentality.

Hey, what's up? Yeah, you know, it's like very and it is kind of odd But it's just like these guys are superstars and their voices their whole livelihood Mm-hmm and for me who I sing it's my whole livelihood. I have to especially with this next month I gotta take this shit seriously like no, I call no weed no drinking coffee Is that what's the hardest thing for you to not do leading up to this dress? I love fried food Yeah, I love cheeseburgers and I love french fries and fried mozzarella mm-hmm and right now I mean, I had a cheeseburger.

I shouldn't have had it, but I've been working outside I was like I had a cheeseburger before I came here So that's my it's my thing, but I never really like alcohol and you know that stuff is easier for me to like not do yeah I don't know. I don't I don't I don't find it difficult to not do that. I I mean not to like talk down anybody who does have a problem with alcohol No, it's everybody has their I mean everybody has their own things and substances that they're on to my mother's That's the main thing and then uh You know, I'm just being really diligent about like keeping a good sleep schedule and I usually humidifier I have like a steamer which those things actually really help all these things. Yeah Yeah, I do all that shit, dude.

I take all that shit because I just some Want my voice to be healthy? I guess I don't want to be a nerd about it, but you know, yeah I have a second that I do called wig. Would you be willing to go on a wig? I was hoping you'd ask them All that sounds really nice.

Yeah, it's good. It's good. You want to do some lighty-dies or what are you feeling today? Yeah?

I I'm Okay, we can do I Sorry, I'm warming up. That's okay Why What do you mean why we're gonna break up right now? I'm sorry I'm being pitchy. We're warming up Is not like we're laying anything down right now That was me what are you doing now, I'm sorry I stayed out late last night, and yeah, I may have gotten a Thanksgiving dinner at Denny's, okay All right now you all do falsetto and then you do the other one we know that I always do the higher part Yeah, that's what I we always do so long ago even higher this time I'm sorry.

Did you have to do cocaine last night, too? Yeah, I did Can I add in some other lyrics other than a lot? Yeah, let's hear your your genius lyrics. Okay fine Whatever you want to send up okay, maybe I will art okay Paul You spend less time on your hair and more time on the music and lyrics okay people would be right in the lyrics you bitch All right, I'm sorry, but I meant one two three four measured stones rippling on summer's a Makes me wonder why we're here It's pretty good And then we should be throwing like like kitchen ingredients like paprika no No, we had to break it to it.

I was writing a poem and then you're suggesting paprika well We have the parsley sage for us Marian time. Yeah, we did that that was a hit But people will see that coming if we're gonna keep doing ingredients in the kitchen all right So say your line again one two three four stone's ledger stars Rippling in the wind on some reason falling leaves Driving through Oh Stepping on what I was I thought we were fighting out. I thought you're joshan. Let me have one more line.

Okay Candy canes and candle wax It's Christmassy. Wait, I'm Jewish. I'll say that I mean you're trying to hit that's why Can't It's Christmas Scarve left behind what is time water into wine I find look inside your mind Measure stars Wendy wrote a babbling book falling leaves and what I missed a It's a good start. It's a good start.

It's a good start. It's a good start. Yeah, you know Like I don't know how funny that's a view of this cuz I'm like that's like for rain a song Oh, that's fun. It's fun for sure.

Yeah, let's close out with this last segment called sax talk This final segment Morgan is gonna share a story of a sexual encounter Don't know how innocent or graphic it can be is whatever he wants and I'm gonna play some sweet snacks along with it to accompany him So whenever you're ready, I will follow you along with this I say The year was 2010 or 2011 I had just finished a comedy show And there was a girl there with a friend of hers and her friend was feeling me But she wanted me and I was like what do I do? What do I do? So I asked their gay friend. What do I do in this situation?

He said ask them to have a threesome and I said can you do that he said yeah? So I go to these ladies and I'm 24 and I go hey, do you want to have a threesome? And after a short amount of deliberation they said yes Fast forward when a cab ride from Brooklyn to the Upper West side and I'm sitting in the middle and the two girls on my side And they're going down on me in the back of this cab The cab driver looks in the rear of your mirror and I said to virtue her eyes. This doesn't concern you I bust into this girl's mouth in the back of the cab She we get to the apartment and we go for round two But because I busted in a cab I only lasted about 10 to 15 minutes for the actual threesome part of it I learned a lot that day save your energy That happened.

That was real. That happened. Wow. You spent all the all the good nut in the cab.

I busted all the good nut in the cab Yeah, and we're gonna learn from that folks safe. You're not safe. You're not save the nuts save save the squirrels save the nuts save the squirrels Save Morgan's info. Where can you find you on?

Yeah, just I'm working J. I was just on my name at a Google and then hopefully the link tree pops up I just use a link tree now anyway, but yeah Morgan J. J. Why Morgan J And where people find you oh they can find me Well, add your my stand up on all social media and then I'm on tour all the time Madison's coming up Dallas, Texas coming up Oh, many New York coming up Fort Worth, Texas in September and Syracuse, New York Be bouncing around a lot and then hunting in beach.

I'll be back there headlining soon. So go see Morgan live He's awesome. He does a lot of fun stuff in the moment with the crowd. He's got awesome comedy songs.

I've known for years He's a good friend that I've wanted to reconnect with some glad that we could riff with you guys here today on the show I appreciate you and I appreciate you asking me to do this and I'll cast for the way we hang out friends now Sometimes we have to do that to schedule. I scheduled a walk with a friend today because you know what I mean He kept trying to text me and like call me to reconnect and I was like can he's going to walk? Yeah, just rather than me being in like my place and just like pacing around like on the phone. I was like, let's just walk I'd rather walk it do be like that.

It'd be like that. Well, I'll have to have you on my podcast And we're gonna do a similar thing on my pocket. I'd love to. I'm down do a similar thing All right, bye guys.

Love you

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