You're back. We made it. Thanks so much for coming back and listening to Jeremiah Wonders. Can't thank you enough and today I am so freaking excited for you guys to hear this episode that I did with Bobbie Lee.
Yeah, and it is a good one. I went extra long because I know I said I was gonna try to keep it 30 to 45 minutes, but guys, when you have a chance to interview Bobbie Lee and you get to do characters with him, it's too much fun. I could know myself. So it's a little bit longer.
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Hit me up if you want me to do that as well. I've only had a couple people who suggested doing that as well, but maybe I'll throw it up there as well. Ah, man. Had a headline in Gig down in San Diego earlier this week with the wave.
I had a headline and I brought Jamar Neighbors and Willy Hunter to open for me. And we had quite the journey down there. So we're going down there and all of a sudden we start smelling burning rubber in Jamar's car. He's driving on him in the passenger seat and Willy's in the back.
And it's his tire. Basically wore itself out on the highway because Jamar didn't tell us that we were driving on a spare. And you're not supposed to drive on a spare more than maybe like 50 miles or so. He drove like 150 miles down to San Diego before it chewed up basically his other tire.
So we had to call a tow truck because we didn't have a spare because the spare was on it. Meanwhile, we're trying to get to this show and it's just a mess. We're straight on the side of the highway. And I call my buddy Ryan Hill from Don Carlos Taco Shop in La Jolla, California.
And he is, man, what a saint of a guy. He dropped everything he's doing and he helped us get to Costco. Basically, we told the tow truck to meet him at Costco. That was the only place that was open that could maybe change a tire that late because it was getting close to Showtime.
It was 6.30. It shows at 7.30. Get to Costco. And he's going to help us with, he has a membership card there.
So he's going to help us use his card and then get us to the show. Costco looks at Jamar's axle and something's wrong with it. And they say, whoa, we can't touch this car because it's a liability if we do. We can't just put a new tire on this.
Like your axle's messed up. You need to go to a mechanic. Every mechanic is closed. We don't know what to do.
Ryan Hill says, I'll get you to the show. He drove to the show, dropped us off there and hung out until he had to take care of his kid that got sick. Which is not doing well. So we do this gig and I got to do an hour and I appreciate it.
I want to thank the Kill Tony fans that came out. I was plugging that pretty hard on Kill Tony. So thank you guys for coming out. Some people bought some shirts and some CDs.
I really appreciate that. That helps a lot, especially since our car broke down. So we had to spend the night in San Diego at a days in and that was an adventure in itself. Just weird things just kept happening while we were checking in.
The guy at the checkout, me and Jamar and Willie are rarely altogether at the same time. But this guy that was checking us in, the concierges, he's like, Do I know you guys from somewhere have you stayed here before? No, no, he goes, wait a second. Are you guys from the Roasts?
And we just look at each other like this is not happening. This dude starts jumping up and down so excited. He's like, I know it. I know it.
Guys, get in here. And he called the other security guards that were working. We took pictures and autographs. It was just like a funny, it was just like a weird situation because we were just already stranded in our cars like broken down.
But we're getting recognized for roast for roast battles. Just one of those beautiful weird moments in life. Anyway. So the next morning, we go to Walmart after we get new but cosco to get the rim to get a new tire put on.
Since Costco won't do it, we're going to go to somewhere where they can just put it on for us and we'll put it on ourselves. And we go over to the Walmart. They say it's going to be an hour. And but before that, they're like, Oh, we actually don't have this because Jamar is like these 19 inch rims, which are, I guess, a rare rim form.
So we have to go uphill. We still a Walmart shopping cart and put his spare in the cart and wheeled it up to a place that was up the street. And this place said it was going to be like an hour or two before they could order the tire. We talked to this other place that we see along the way called shift auto and tires in San Diego.
And this dude like completely helps us out. Basically, he's like, Hey, I think I actually have a couple used of that size in the back. And he does. So we're going to talk to him.
He's a really cool dude. And he sends his mechanic to drive us over to Costco, replace the tires on there. We drive back to his shop and then he fixes the other spare, puts the new tire on that. And then we ask him what we owe him.
He said, You know what guys? You seem like you have good energy. You seem like you're good people. This is on the house.
I just want you guys to pay this for it. All assets that you pay for it. I just want to think Pat over at shift auto and tires so much for doing something out of the kind of stuff is hard. Clearly helping guys that really need it.
And just to show you guys how great it is to help other people out. Everyone's well, there's still good people in the world. How incredible is that? How nice is that to hear that there's still people.
They're doing nice things kind of refreshing. It's kind of cool to live by the golden rule. Everyone's well, you know, be nice to others. They'll be nice back to you.
It's pretty great. So thanks again, Pat over at shift auto and tires that helped us out a lot. I get to talking about religion with Bobby later in this episode. And he thinks that I'm trying to convert him to Christianity, which ends up being pretty entertaining.
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If you want me to try to get a certain guess, I will do my best. Thank you guys so much for listening. And without further ado, I present my episode of Jeremiah Wonder's with Bobby Lee. I'd love to start soon.
Okay. That's my dream. You know, if we could just start anytime soon, it would be my dream. Just start.
Well, guess what? We already started. We already started. We already started.
What do you don't do in music or in trouble? Well, that actually came. Oh, that already happened? Yeah, that already happened.
Well, just go one, two, three, start. Okay. Okay. Here we go.
One, two, three, start. Welcome to Jeremiah Wonder's and Guess Who's in the House. One of my favorite people ever. In fact, whenever people ask me, who my favorite stand-up comedian is?
I say this guy. Oh my god. And his name. Oh my god.
He's the one. And the only. The only. The only.
Bobby Lee. Bobby Lee. How are you, buddy? Good.
Thank you. You know what? I'm so grateful that you asked me to be on this podcast. I've been waiting for like a whole year for this.
I was like, when is Jeremiah gonna ask me to do his podcasts? And I did it. I'm doing it now. And I'm so grateful.
Dude, today's your lucky day. I'm so lucky today. You know, I'm glad that I can finally help you out. Like you've helped me for so many years.
Oh my god, you helped me more than I've helped you. I'll tell you that. Are you serious? Just by your life force.
Just because you walk into a room and you have life force energies. Do I really? Yeah. And your core is glowing with full of your Jesus juices.
Because I know you love the Christ. Are you still in the Christ? I think he's a pretty cool guy. Yeah, but does Christ know that you were having sexual intercourse before you got married?
He did. He does. He does. What does the Bible say about that?
Hey, man. That was a sin. It was a sin. Did you repentance?
You know, I. No, not really. I mean, I felt okay about it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember when you first moved, you were like really wholesome. Well, yeah.
So I started opening for Bobby on the road, like probably in 2011 or 2012. Yeah. And when you took me out on the road for the first time, you were completely shocked with how like I guess strict how my upbringing. Oh my god.
I couldn't believe it. You're almost angry at times. Well, it was fury. I don't know if it's anger, but it was pure fury.
Because I, um, it's not that. No, I'm glad people have faith, but I just never met a comedian with that. So when I first met you, I'm like, how do you do comedy if you have to follow all these strict rules? Right.
You know, you can't jack off. Yeah, there's a lot of technicalities that that I skipped over. Yeah, you did, right? Yeah, I really did.
But you know what, you know, we're all a product of our environment. So if I was raised under the roof of the Watkins house, I think that I would become a Christian too. Yeah. And it's like my parents were angry atheists.
They're just hardworking Korean atheists. Did you ever, like, I know growing up, you obviously get shaped in a certain way. Did you ever. Were you ever curious?
Like, did you ever have any buddies that were? That was that. Mormon. See, I haven't even been baptized.
That's kind of weird. So I did that. I also then after becoming Mormon, I went to Christian church with my born-again friends in high school. And then, um, I just decided it's not for me.
How? How? You know, when you don't know what speaking in tongues is, and you walk into a church and people are doing that. It's terrifying.
It's not just terrifying. It's weird. It's got a David Linge kind of like odd vibe about it. Well, it feels beyond a church at that point.
It feels more like a cult. Yeah, it's also not real. God's not speaking through you in some sort of language that we can't fucking understand. Right?
He would speak English. Right. If God was going to speak through you, he would probably speak the language of the people he wants to reach. Sure.
Right. He's got to go back. I went to one Pentecostal church growing up. Yeah.
They invited my family. It was like a family friend. And it was the weirdest service I've ever been to because they ran the aisles. Praising God.
And then they also spoke in tongues like furiously. Yeah. While we prayed and it was very, very awkward. Yeah, I guess their argument is that I don't have the Holy Ghost in my body.
I don't know that I can't. I'm not in the light. Yeah. I don't think that's it.
I think it's fake. Well, I think in my opinion, this is a problem that I have with organized religion sometimes. And sometimes I feel like people are trying to one up each other in church. They're trying to out pray each other.
They're trying to out hole each other. And that's like not the point of church at all. And it's one of the reasons I don't go to church currently is I really turned off by that mentality. Here's another reason why and this is going to sound weird.
But the reason why I don't believe to in Christianity is because of the music. Just hear me out. Okay. I wasn't bands going up.
I know how chord progression is going. Listen to me. I know how chord progression is going. I know when something is like, wow, that's ingenious.
You know, like rock monanoff. You know who rock monanoff is. I think he's a Russian composer. Okay.
And his stuff is really intricate and crazy. Right. If he said that the Lord helped him write that music, I believe him. But when you go to church, like, and you see a Christian band, whatever, it's just F G, you know, F C G chords.
Some minor chords. Yeah. The music is just bland and not creative and hacky. Right.
You know, if God wanted to reach me, ask Tom York to write Christian music. If Radiohead came out with a Christian album, then I'd be like, oh, maybe it's real. Why wouldn't God go to the best songwriter? You know what I mean?
Why can't he go to like John Bryan or somebody and go write me some music? But it's always these guys that are from the Midwest and they write shitty music. It's shit. Have you ever, how much have you listened to?
Cause I grew up with, I grew up listening to those bands and stuff. Right. And there was like a handful that was like, oh, these are hit. These are, what was it called?
Which one of them newsboys, audio adrenaline? Yeah, no. There was like, there's like some Christian rappers. Really?
Let me ask you, let me ask you, did those bands write an okay computer? Did they write a white album? That's what I'm looking for. Right.
Right. No, no, I'm looking at the actual angle that I've never heard before. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm looking for like, you know, some inspiration for me. Cause if you could reach me with really like original cool music and lyrics that aren't going to shut it down my fucking throat, I might go, you know what? Maybe God does exist. But as long as they keep putting out that shit, I ain't doing it.
It's not real. We have our first caller actually. The phone lines are light up. Hello.
Call her. Who's this? Hello. It's Ringo Starr.
Oh fuck. Ringo Starr. Hey. Hey, love Ringo.
What's up Ringo? Hey, what's going on? A big fan of your love deal. MNC.
Thank you. Oh, thank you. Yes. I was hearing about this Christian music debate.
Yeah. I'm a close Christian. Can you believe it, Bobby? Oh, you're a closet Christian?
Yeah, the octopus is God and it's actually met you before. Have you? I actually remember that. I really did meet you once.
I remember that. Where do we meet? I had a concert. No, but it's fine.
Are we met at your place? No. Is that a party? You're never going to guess it.
Yeah, I can't say what I was. But my point is it is really good to talk to you again Ringo. It is. You're my least favorite fucking people.
Wait, what? We dropped. He left. You can't tell.
Okay. I'm gonna have another question. Okay. Call him.
Okay. Call him. Okay. Let me try to reach out.
Hello. Ringo, are you there? I guess. How do you feel about Yoko?
Did you think she broke up the band? What a bitch. Really? Okay.
Now, hang up. Oh, he's gone. Yeah. Oh, we got another caller.
Oh, yeah, we do. Yeah. Hello. Yo, go.
Is this is the yoko? This is the yoko. This is the yoko. No.
Wow. I have a ring. Oh, wait. Where?
No, you're not. Okay. We have another caller calling in at the same time. Hello, is that bitch?
Oh, there is big nose. Ringo. Oh, you think I have a big nose? Yeah.
You think you'd call me? Do you say I have a flat face? I think you're a big murderer. That's what I think.
I killed you. I think so. I thought it was a conspiracy theory the whole time. Yeah.
You know what I hang up now? No, please don't go. I want to talk to you more. Yeah.
Also, can I say this? Yes. Say whatever you want. Yeah.
I'm wearing fuck. How dare you? Have you ever written one good song? I wrote Oltipus's God.
And I told you on the right. Yesterday I'll follow that. Wait, wait. You're not.
She left. Dude. Ringo left too. Oh, fuck.
Oh, man. That's so crazy. But, um, but, you know, I really can't just be honest with you. Yeah, for sure.
And if you're Christian and you're listening, please pray for me because I need to find something. I want to be able to find something that's kind of inspire me and in a spiritual way. Do you have that feeling that they're not like you're empty necessarily, but do you ever find like there might be something missing or something? Um, I'll be honest with you.
I do now, but I know how to fix it. And I just not doing the work to fix it. This empty feeling that I have only resolved itself if I'm getting out of myself. If I'm helping other people and people that are struggling.
When I'm in the world, I'm not going to be able to get out of the world. When I'm constantly in like out of self and I'm either picking people up to go to an A meeting or, um, you know, calling people that are more unfortunate me and seeing how I can help. And I'm in that mind frame. I feel great.
But right now I'm just all about me, me, me, me, and when I think about me, I get depressed and I get sad and I get angry and it's really weird. And it's so weird to in my mind know how to get out of my depression, but not doing anything about it. So that's where I'm at. There's nothing.
I think I know what my solution is. Right. So I, I, I, I, I felt like, you know, I feel like I'm not going to be able to get out of my depression. I feel like I feel like, you know, I feel like I feel like, you know, I feel like, you know, I feel like, you know, I feel like, you know, I feel like, you know for a second that you thought you were going to fucking convince me to become a Christian.
Is that what you're trying to do? No, I was actually, I was just very curious. I, because your eyes got all buggy and excited and you're not going to be able to convince me. You're not going to convince me to do it.
It's like, there's no way. Oh, we have another caller call. Oh shit. Who is it?
I don't know. Caller. Who is it? Hey, Mr.
Wackle. Hey, this is, I think you should consider why that emptiness could be filled by our Lord Jesus Christ. Yeah, but I'm also Korean. That's weird.
Wait, I got another, we got another caller. Yeah. Okay. We have another caller.
Hey, hello, do you see the puppies that this is this is, this is missing. This is the, did you know that Bobby talks about you in his? Your son's fat? Yeah.
That's what you called him for. Did you have anything to say about religion? What about God? Mama.
Wait, what's that last thing? Oh, wow. Is that like a fetish thing? No, he's not.
He used to be my mom. Did he really? Yeah. Yeah, one time my mom, um, she lost a tooth.
She came into my room and she opened her mouth and she had teeth missing because my dad punched him out. Is that real? Yeah. Wow.
There is no God. How did you? I had to check it out. So hot.
It is a little bit hot. Yeah. I'm in my t-shirt right now. Yeah.
How did you react to the kid? Like to something like that? Like how do you process that as a kid? You know, you survive.
We kind of just block it out a little bit and then I'll give you an example. We are fostering a dog right now. Okay. His name is Remy.
Okay. And Remy's previous owner was a retard. Retarded person. Sorry.
He was mentally retarded and he's delighted on fire. Like he used this fucking dog. So when we first got Remy, he was skittish. He just didn't want us to touch him.
We had to show him the way with love. He sleeps on our bed now. He's the sweetest dog in the world and he he he's not going anywhere. He loves it at our house and the dog completely changed.
So it's like as soon as I got out of my environment, that environment, my life changed. You know, I still love my dad more than anything on earth. I love him. He did the best he could with what he knew.
So I have no resentment really but all the things that happened to me before 23 led up to me doing stand up comedy, stand up comedy. You know what it is? It's pursuing something that people said that I shouldn't pursue. I was never going to make it.
And then actually being able to like earn a living and doing doing it. It's just so fulfilling to me. It's not revenge. You know, it's it's a feeling of like, wow, you you're completely just a dumb lazy fucking asshole.
But you did one thing right. And that one thing I did right was just relentlessly pursue stage time and going up. I there was not a time since I started that I didn't go up. And I was 23.
I'm 46 now. And I haven't really had a day job for 20 years. Wow, you know, it's been a blessing. And so that's why I'm still alive.
I think. It's because it's like I'm still pursuing and I really haven't. I don't feel like I've made it yet, you know, really? Yeah.
Why do you think because you know what somebody said the other day? Because it's interesting like a guy like me. So I've been doing stand up eight years now and I moved out here in 2009. So it's very interesting to hear that a guy who has been doing stand up and is considered like there's only very, very few headliners who tour the nation like you do.
You're really I can name. I'm not being to see this or there's under 100 though. I can probably get 200. You can name 200 people that tour consistently like you do.
Yes. And sell out. Yes. Really?
Yeah. OK, maybe there's 200. I mean, what I'm trying to think about this, your logic, OK, is is that how many comedy clubs are a rooms are there in the country? I mean, there's in San Diego alone, there's what to right.
But that's not counting Orange County, Breya, Irvine, Breya. I mean, you know, so in California in itself, how many common rooms are there? It's probably eight to 10. No, 15 more.
20? Yeah. There is a really 20. Yeah.
OK. OK. If you count like Oxnard, that's every weekend. So there's 20 headliners right then right there.
OK. OK. Yeah. And then you got Oregon, Washington, all the other states, New York, how many are there in New York?
I mean, come on. Right. So you've got a lot. OK.
But thank you, though. I know what you're trying to do is make me feel better. Well, it's just interesting. What it's interesting is so I've been doing stand up eight years.
You've been doing it 23 years and to hear you say after what you've done like on on sketch shows. It depends on what you think making making it is what would you consider making it? I think making it is you literally upstairs upstairs who was there Vince Vaughn was upstairs. OK.
And he said hi. I said hi. That's making it. He doesn't ever have to work again.
So just a security. I think there are certain guys like Kevin James, I guess there's a zillion of them that go that just can look at their finances and go. I don't have to worry. I think that's making it.
So it's somewhat of a financial thing every year or a year game. Yeah. Every year I make a certain amount. Right.
It's not I can retire amount. It's OK. This is a comfortable year. But you know at the end of the day, I think that deep down inside is what I always wanted because I have a new show coming up March 27.
I'm caught every. I mean, I've you know, it's not I'm like, not one of those guys that was people were like, yeah, he had a shot. I always get little shots and opportunities as if I'm a younger guy. You.
Yeah. I mean, you work. Yeah, but that's I know, but the last network show I got that was on air was animal practice. Well, that six years ago.
Yeah, it took six years. And I did a couple of pilots in between there, but now I have one coming on the air six years after that. And then if this gets canceled, I'll probably wait another six years. But my point is you think it takes that long to cycle through my type.
Yeah. I've your type. Fat Asian guy who's 50. I mean, I guess specific.
Yeah, I guess specific. Yeah. Somebody really has to go. I mean, the way I got this show was there was no other guy.
They they casted Lindsey Price who was an Asian chick. She was on two and I was a great actress, really nice lady. They cast her as the best friend of the two leads. Then they're thinking, all right, she is what?
40. Right? Yeah, we can't have she has a husband, but we can't have this husband be white. So now black Asian, Mexican, and the team went, I think it's going to be the safest is we got to find somebody that's Asian in his 40s.
Now it goes down to what three right? But for that to happen, you know, without Lindsey, that would never happened. They would just got a white guy. You know, probably a Tyler Levine or somebody like that.
You know, I mean, but, you know, I got lucky, but animal practice, same thing. We need ethics. He's the sixth lead. It narrows it down to a certain group of people.
And that needs to happen for me. That makes sense. Yeah, they're not going to offer me the lead. Did you feel that you had to fight your way up like that way to like with Matt TV, like whenever you're on where you're like, I only have a few slots that I can fill?
Well, what happened there was I couldn't get in sketches in the first couple of years. And I was just like, well, I was doing drugs and partying and I didn't care. I was just. Fuck this job.
Fuck Hollywood. You know, I really was had that mentality. It was I had an unpleasant couple of years on the show. Yeah.
And then the third year when they asked me back, I just said to myself, I'm going to figure out how to fix this. How do I get on the show without playing characters? Because there's what six at that time? There was like six or seven Asian people that I could play Kim Jong Il, right, you know, William Hong, Lucy Liu.
I mean, how many can you play? Yeah, not many. I'm culture. Yeah.
I mean, I did John McCain. Oh, I never had any kind of things. So I just said, you know what? I'm going to just play myself.
So I wrote Bobbilly in thing. Like out in the wild stuff. Yeah, out in the wild. Bobbilly in the street.
It's going to a movie. Hang out with his parents or whatever. Which honestly, probably the smartest thing that you could have done because people still remember your name. Yeah.
I mean, I survived in that way. Yeah. I stayed on the show for eight years. Wow.
Eight years on a sketch show. Did you have a favorite? I mean, I'm sure it's hard to nail down like a favorite sketch or moment. But you have like one that comes in mind whenever somebody asks you that question.
Like a favorite moment. Maybe it might not even be your favorite sketch, but like a favorite moment where you're like, you're settled into the show and you're like, Oh, I'm doing this now and I'm having such a blast doing it. You know what it was? I did a show.
I did a sketch called Bobbilly 24 with Bobbilly and I go in my head. I'm like, I want John Cho and Louis Anderson in this. And I got involved with one phone call. That's a good feeling.
And so then when I got him in my house, it was, he did it in my house. I was like, I got John Cho and Louis Anderson in my house, you know. And then I did Chichen Chong. I Chichen Chong in my house.
How surreal is that? Like, so when you when you when you're doing that, that's cool. But then it's like what happened was after my TV. So how how dark do that period get for?
Oh my God. I remember one time I was in the patio and I was crying. What's the comedy store? Yeah.
Yeah. And Brian Callan and I just brought this up to Brian Callan. But Brian Callan didn't know what to say. So we sat next to me goes, how do you try taking acting classes?
And I remember going fuck the last thing you want to hear whenever you're like in a dark place. Yeah. At that time, I was like, no one wants me. I can't get a job.
In fact, I remember one cast and they're saying, he's never going to work again. Because he was on that shitty show. Matt TV. They just said that.
Yeah. And I got back to it. Well, no, it was. She said something to my that to my agent.
And my agent goes, Oh, no, they just they saw everyone and they already got this. I go, why isn't this lady ever calling me in? Oh, we have a phone call. Yeah, go ahead.
Oh my God. Are you the casting director? Yeah. What's your name?
Hi, and then. Hey, why didn't you call me in all those? I know why do you sound like Mitzi Shor? That's who you are?
You know, sometimes I manifest casting director. Oh, you do. Yeah. Why didn't you?
Why wouldn't you call me in for things though? You're too likable. Oh, so that's what all you're going through the anti-likable. You're going to steal the the scene from the lead guy.
All right. Get the fuck out of you, bitch. Hey, you fucking filthy bitch. I fucking kill you, bitch.
I'll really come over to the parking lot. My thumbs and gouge rise up. I'll slit your wrists right now, Bobby. I'll just let my eyes.
That's racist. Oh, really? That's what you said? She hung out.
I don't know. She got like, I think she got a little anytime you call somebody racist. You know, you know, yeah. But.
And then what happened was, I think what happened was when other cast members are mad, started doing good, it changed the vibe of the show. So we see Ike Berenholts, you know, and Kean Peel. Even if everybody else has so, you know, how it's forced it. And these people started doing well.
Yeah. And then the show didn't get that the reputational show got positive. And then, you know, it's been great ever since then. Well, I feel like, especially now since it's not on the air anymore, it has this very, very strong cult following where if you were watching it around that time, you are a fan for life.
Yeah. Like, I felt that whenever I would bring you up for years at different clubs, like around the country, like I could like whenever I said you've seen him on mad TV, there would be a big group of people. At every single show, no matter what club it was, they were like so excited specifically for that. Yeah.
But you know what? Also, what's great about it is that half of my fans don't even know what was on that show. Well, yeah, you've also been doing your podcast. Yeah.
I mean, that's really helped. Tiger really has changed a lot of stuff for you, right? As far as like the kind of people who are coming out to your shows, because podcast fans are very different from TV. They are my real fans.