JW Ep 51- Joe Sib

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Spread that thing around. Merry Christmas everybody. And if you're Jewish or other checkbox, happy Hanukkah, happy Kwanzaa, whatever you're celebrating, hopefully you're celebrating with friends and family this week, or with a loved one. How you doin' guys, welcome to Geromile Wonders.

And this feels nice, doesn't it? I'm glad you're joining me on your holiday week. You may be in work, you may be out of work, you may be traveling somewhere. Hope you have an amazing week, this holiday season can be stressful.

So, I hope it's as good as possible. Remember just to breathe, and if your family or friends are somebody's getting on your nerves, you may not see them again for a little bit. You know, it's that time of year. So, just take a breath and know that they love you.

They're not trying to get on your nerves on purpose. And you'll feel good, you'll feel good and making somebody else happy. I hope you guys are doing well. I'm in Kansas right now guys, and I'm actually visiting family.

My wife just joined me tonight. And I am very happy to be with family catching up with them. And yeah, we're doing it guys. Another episode of Jeremiah Wonders.

So cool. I wanna share some really, really exciting news with you guys that I mentioned, that I've been mentioning on this podcast for, well the last month or so. I'm actually surprised it already happened. I got a new saxophone guys.

I have a new saxophone sponsor for the show, and I could not be more grateful to David Knowles and Seth Miller over at Mention Music in Pennsylvania for helping your boy Jeremiah Watkins out. I'm blown away. I will be posting pictures and videos on my Instagram. And yes, the first song that I played on that thing was Carol Swisper.

So it's the only way to break that thing in. I am super grateful and wow, I cannot wait to share it with you guys, but it is beautiful and it is such an upgrade from the sax that I was playing since I was a little kid basically. I've been playing that saxophone for almost 20 years. And this is a beautiful professional canable saxophone and they call it the Raven.

It's got a very cool look and finish to it. And yeah, anyway, go to my Instagram, add your my stand up. And there'll be pictures and videos on it later this week. But man, I'm so grateful to that.

Words can't even express. I got emotional whenever I opened it up and wow, that's just so cool. Email the show at JeremiahWonders at gmail.com. If you'd like to send your music submissions or your kindness challenge letters there.

And I want to make just that I usually make the general kindness challenge to, you know, do something nice for the bottom, from the bottom of your heart to a stranger, somebody that you know can be a little, it can be big, whatever you're doing to contribute something positive to the world. This week since it's the holiday season, my challenge to you guys is check on somebody. Check on a loved one, check on maybe a friend that's not super close of you, of yours or a coworker. Make sure that they have something to do over the holidays.

That's such a great gift that you can help somebody out with is making them feel included and making them feel loved during this holiday season. Because, you know, not everybody has a family to go to or a close circle of friends. So look out for your coworker or maybe somebody that you don't talk to that much and maybe they're not the most popular person in your office or who you work with or you go to school with or something. Make sure that they have something to do over the holidays.

That's my challenge to you this week guys. And somebody that actually submitted music to JeremiahWonders at gmail.com, I would like to feature them. Do another artist spotlight. I'd like for you guys who listen to this track, it's called I Wonder by the Messy Kids.

That is a nice feel-good song. Yeah. You can also hear that as the intro song on the Messy crib podcast and the Messy Kids are on YouTube and different streaming services. So check them out.

I want to think the sponsors of the show, Speedweed at Speedweed on Twitter. Geno over there, that sticky aching marijuana delivery service. Bronx-born pizza, my pal, Thomas Schiffer at Bronx-born pizza in Bend, Oregon. They've been sponsoring one of the OG sponsors of this podcast as well, Speedweed.

And the newest sponsor of the show, I'm so grateful to Adam Menchie Music in Pennsylvania at Menchie Music, M-E-N-C-H-E-Y-M-U-S-I-C. Menchie Music. And the guys who really made this happen from there, David Knowles and Seth Miller, specifically David. I went through him and I appreciate that's helped his world make this happen.

But David was my point person. We went back and forth with so many messages through Instagram and email. And he actually shipped it to my mom's place in Kansas. So I could play it with family over the holidays.

How sweet is that? It's so cool. Follow them on Instagram at d-e-e-e-k-e-i-g-h-matic-m-a-t-i-c-d-e-i-g-h-matic. And Seth Miller at SethM-710 on Instagram.

Give them some followers. Give them some love and thank them for their amazing support of your boy. Wow. I have so many people that I want to thank this year.

And I'll do it quickly. But so many people have helped make this podcast possible every week. And I couldn't do it without a list of these guys. My buddy Zoltan at the art of getting up, awesome, amazing posters that you see every week for the podcast.

And I love that he contributes his Photoshop skills in his art every week. Thank you, Zoltan. I really appreciate it, buddy. Also, DJ McCray, who you will hear a little preview of here in a second of this episode right here.

But he sends the original mixes for these episodes a lot of times. And you can hear him spinning on Twitch most nights of the week. My friend, Thomas Shiffer over at Bronx Born Pizza for hooking me up with a video equipment to film this podcast every week. Because so many people were asking about getting it on YouTube.

Thank you, Thomas Shiffer. Joe from Joe's Pizza on Sunset for supplying my guests with pizza from time to time. Gene Ofer's applying my guest with weed every week. And a giant thank you to my buddy, Gage Tierina at Gage Tierina.

G-A-G-E-T-I-J-E-R-I-N-A on social media for editing the audio and video of this podcast every week. He's been a freaking huge lifesaver to me. And he's also very comic that you should be checking out. He's working in the text scene.

So follow him and please go see him live. Thank you to everyone who has donated something this year at jeremywonders.com. There's actually a PayPal button there if you'd like to do the same. Or if you want to help me out, so help support the show, go over to iTunes, leave me a five star rating, and review the podcast.

We're almost at 300 reviews, guys. I'd like to get to like 500 in the next couple months. So let's freaking make this happen. Thank you to everybody.

It's just some end of the years. Thank you. I really needed to get out. And I'm super grateful for all the support of this podcast this last year, this episode 52.

Wow, I'm going to take a breath for a second. Then run my mouth. Let's go back down for a second. Let's get the energy in a normal swing of things and listen to a preview of this episode to come from DJ Niquere.

You started and I'm going to jump in. Joe's like, go sit in the house today. E-E-E-E-E-E-E. You're the people.

I'm literally the people. E-E-E-E-E-E. Local food stall. E-E-E-E-E-E.

Local food stall. It's happening. It's happening, dude. We're inside the podcast.

And there's a DJ, I'm like, totally. E-E-E-E-E-E. I'm like, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Believe it or not, DJ Niquere made that with just the sounds that Joe, Sib, and I were making with our mouths, which is pretty cool.

Yes, Joe, Sib is our guest today. And man, I love this guy's energy. He'll be on the field, like, through the episode. How good of a dude Joe is.

He'll just be able to, I don't know, just be oozing out of the speakers. It's just such a positive guy, and he was such a fun interview, such a cool friend to just hang out with. That's what I love about this podcast. I get to catch up with bodies that I may not have had time to catch up with in a while.

We talk about him touring with Metallica and playing in different bands over the years, skateboarding and more. And guys, without further ado, please welcome my pal, Joe Sib, to Jeremiah Wonders. Is this happening? This is happening, dude.

Is this starting right now? Yeah, we're in it. We're inside the podcast. We're in the barrel.

We're in the barrel of the podcast, bro. We're in the crowd, dude. Yeah. We're going over the falls of the podcast.

Yeah, freaking driving off that podcast cliff, man. We're going to make it to the other side of the canyon. There you go. Yeah, dude.

I can't believe I'm finally here. I know. Joe Sib in the house today. Thank you for having me.

Dude, of course. Man. Do you know what you're one of the first people I ever saw when I started doing standup? Really?

Sandy Dansoly introduced us. Really? First time ever at the Comedy Store. Wow.

What was that? It'll be 10 years in January. 10 years in January. That's so awesome, dude.

Yeah, actually, dude, we started right around the same time. Yeah. I hit... You've been...

I think you're... I think you're... Because you were already... Like, I started standup in January of 2010.

Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, we probably met sometime. Yeah.

I just remember going up there... I was going up there with Sandy Dansoly who I love and he was so kind and I knew Polly from doing... I was in this movie with him called BioDome. You're in BioDome.

I'm in BioDome, dude. Wait. Everyone's like, okay, well listen. I know, right?

Wait, what are you playing BioDome? Our band when I was singing for Wax, my band Wax, we were the band that plays in the BioDome. So you know when it gets thrashed? Yeah.

Yeah, that's our band. And we do a cover of Do You Want a Dance. And then we did that and then like the... While we're playing, the BioDome gets thrashed.

Dude. Yeah. How fun was that shoot? It was great because the thing that was such a trip was, you know, and I was talking about this walking around today.

So where you live is literally where I moved here when I was 23 years old, came down from Northern California, got kicked out of my band in Northern California like, hey bro, you're not happening. Time for you to get girlfriend broke up with me, started going out with some dood, some metal guy with long hair. It was a bummer. I'm living, you know, like in San Jose at that point, I got nothing going on.

I had one bro that lived down here and he was working at this record level called Slash. And he said, you know what, you got to leave Northern California, you got to come to LA. And I was like, and what? And he's like, you know, you figure it out.

You know, you can start a band down here. And I met these three guys from Chicago. And those were the three guys I started wax with. So by the time we ended up doing BioDome, we had been on this crazy ride of like we got signed, we got dropped, we got re-signed.

And at a certain point, they needed a band for BioDome. And I met, I met Paulie like when they were putting it together. And he was just so cool. And I never ever thought about like doing stand up, but I kind of was nerding out on it with him.

Yeah. But this was ages ago, we did the movie together. And over, so we did the movie together. My band ended up falling apart and you know, started the record label, Sidewind Dummy and all that.

But over the years, there was always moments where I'd run into Paulie. And he was always just super cool. And when I started doing, I started doing the show called California Calling. It was like stories and photographs.

And a friend of mine, Paulie said, I said, Hey, I heard about this guy that's doing like this music show. Like my mom, that's why she built that room. Like she wants music in here. And he reached out to me and he said, Hey, you know, Paulie, or yeah, and he goes, you should meet him.

So I came up, I remember I came up and like it's a rainy day at the store. And he just said, Hey, man, you know, you should, you should bring your show in here. And he remembered me from biodeome and he was just super cool. And then that turned into, I said, Hey, I'd love to do that show here.

Because it was like storytelling. But then I asked him, I'm like, I want to do stand up. And he was like, at that time, I don't even know if she's around anymore. Crazy Cindy.

Oh, yeah. Crazy Cindy. He doesn't do many shows at the Comedy Store anymore, but she was a staple there for a little bit. Yeah.

Remember she'd call people when she was on her treadmill and like really, you're like, she's like, I'm doing three miles right now. You know, can I get a spot? But she, he put me in touch with her. And then I did my first spot, like stand up spot in January of like 2008.

Yeah. And I was just like, Oh, wow. You know, like, okay, here we go. But you got the bug right away.

Oh my God. You know, I always, you know, for me, it was, it was one of those kind of things where like, I've been on stage singing in bands. Well, that's the thing I feel like whenever, since you, you know, it's kind of similar to our pal, Dean Del Rey, I feel like you guys have a similar thing where you guys both have been in a lot of bands and stuff and you've been on stage performing in front of like so many varying degrees of crowds where there's like thousands to down to like, you know, those small like brutal band shows where you're just like, Oh, there's a couple of people here. I'm trying to get their attention, whatever.

Dude, I did tours like that where you, I always joke around like, we would drive, we did this one where you drive around. It's just the, oh, it's your opening for someone in the headliner and the difference is when you're opening the headliners watching you and the headliners headlining, you're watching that. That's the whole tour. They're like, you know, so like when I do stand up and they're like, there's only 15 people here.

I'm like, dude, not a problem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I've driven six hours to play for less than that. Yeah. Well, you kind of hit the ground running because you go in kind of knowing your voice a little bit more and having more life experience and having that stage conference, which is the big thing is just being used to being in front of crowds. Totally.

I mean, yeah, I think that's the thing like whenever, you know, obviously you've been doing stand up like freaking 10 years now, but it's one of those things where even, even early on whenever, you know, I'd see you around shows, I would see you go up and I'm like, you can tell like when somebody has reps of stage time in whether it be within comedy or not, just on a comfort ability level. Yeah. Just being able to be like, okay, you know, try to grab the mic. Yeah.

Does he have material? No. You know, like, I'm funny. I know.

Do we like him? No. He's a great thing. Dude, that's the worst like compliment early on is like, dude, you're so much funnier off stage.

Oh, man. Dude, once Matt Bronger, I did a show who I love, I love Matt and he was another guy that was just like, you know, because when I came, when I started doing comedy, I think also like people kind of tripped out on my, my energy because sometimes it can be perceived as like, dude, is this guy like super high on cocaine or something? And like, I've never done drugs and then people are like, really? But when I came on to like doing stand up, I kind of approached it.

It's like, yeah, band style, like you kind of hang with everybody and I learned real quick. It doesn't really work that way. You know, comics are not that they're rude, but they're, they're very, they're keeping themselves in their head. And now I understand how annoying I must have been talking to someone right before they were going out.

And I'm like, dude, I'm so excited to be here. It's like, yeah, like I totally, I want to apologize to everyone I do that too. But Matt Bronger once said to me, I got done doing a show at like El Coyote or was that place over on Silver Lake that these two do shows at, I forgot the name. It was like a Mexican restaurant.

Do you ever do a set? El Sid. El Sid. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I got done and it went terrible, you know, just, but I get off stage and Matt, I see Matt and Brody Stevens and like they're there and I'm so stoked they were there, but I was bummed because I was just bummed and Matt goes and, you know, I don't know how to talk like anybody goes, you know what you did, Joe, like you just kept going, you know, like it just, it wasn't going well, but you wouldn't stop. And, you know, me, I'm like, oh dude, thanks. And then like, as I'm walking in my car, I kind of realized what he said. Like dude, you weren't funny, but you didn't let up and you got through your time.

I do the, the, the backhand compliment that I've gotten so many times throughout my career is like, man, you commit so hard. And it's like, it's a compliment, but it's also like, wait, did you like the joke? Dude, you really stuck it out, man. You just stayed in it.

Wow. I could never do that. Dude, the room was so silent. One time I did a show at Meltdown, you know, and I remember right before I was going on stage, I had, you know, I had material.

Like I was like, I'm going to do this bit. I'm going to do, I had bits. Like I'm all not, I'm not telling stories. Like I was trying to break away from storytelling guy and, and, you know, all that, you know, they're all there.

And I remember, um, I'm, I'm Joan Ray. You know, I get down with my set. Oh, this was like the Meltdown show. This is like the hottest show in town for people to know about it.

Hot, show in town. Yeah. It was the hottest show in town always sold out. Joan Ray had me on his podcast.

That's where all the industry used to go is to, you know, to peep the comics who are on the Uprise and all that stuff. Dude, people were getting Netflix specials out of there, you know. At this point, um, I get, Joan had me on his podcast and I remember we were hanging out and he goes, hang on. I don't want you to do the show.

So then I get booked on the show and I have this whole idea of what I'm going to do and it's packed. And I was like, cool, the room is in, you know, they want you to win. So like, I'm like, okay, cool. And right before I go out, there's this kid that worked with me at Sidewind dummy and he goes, dude, you got to tell the story of the blah, blah, blah.

And he got in my head and like a moron. I went up there and I tell this story and the room is so silent. And when I got off, you know, I was like, I knew once I committed, I'm like, dude, I just jumped out of the plane. Oh no.

And I just go, I just like, and like, I'm like, dude, they were hanging on every word you were saying. And you're like, I would have appreciated some giggles. And never gotten invited back. Yeah, yeah, well, then you doesn't exist anymore.

But like, yeah, yeah, on them, right? But you know, like you said, though, it's, you know, I think, you know, whether it's Dean or, you know, other kind of comics that are like, they come out from music, you know, or just any kind of stage background. Like, you know, you know, you know, you know, the ins and outs of how to hold a microphone, how to kind of deal with the crowd, you know, I remember one time I went up at the improv when I first started and it was my first time going up and this agent got me the gig and he came down the show and goes, I want you to know right now. I mean, I see people die on the stage.

So when you get up there, you know, just know, man, you know, if you mess up here, man, I mean, it'll stick with you. I mean, it's dangerous up there. And I was like, you told you that right before you go. Like, you know that night, like, getting up to it.

And I go to the show and I'm like, and I said to him, I go, hey, dude, I'm gonna throw something out at you. Are there skinheads at this show? And he's like, what do you mean? Like, you know, skinheads, like, well, other dudes in like, like, green bomber jackets that are gonna come up on stage and grab me and pull me back to the back of the room and like fight me.

And he goes, no, nothing like that's gonna happen. I'm like, that's what I've been used to. So like, as long as that doesn't happen, I'm okay. Like, as long as no one physically threatens me with like a knife that they made at home, like I'm totally fine with bombing in front of everybody.

You're like, you're little mental threats that are going on right now. They're not gonna phase me at all. Yeah, because that was the only, I felt like that was something, you know, playing bands and especially kind of the scene of music I came out of that, you know, I'd had those things happen to me on stage. You know, and I was like, in standup, what I loved about it was that unlike a band, like when you're opening, when you're a band, you're opening for someone, like, you know, I open for everyone from the Ramones, the social distortion.

I mean, all these bands, I just idolize as a kid. The only problem is no one wants to see you. Like they, and they, to the point where they will, you know, I remember back in the day, they turn their back just middle finger to you, the whole set. And you know, you're still trying to be like, Hey, what's up?

You know, but I feel like you can, you face not that extreme, but every once in a while with certain headliners that you open for, you feature for, you'll face that a little bit where you're up there and you're like, this material works everywhere. But this crowd just does not wanna see me. They're just literally not here. They're something in the air where you're like, Oh, I just have to do my time and get off.

Have you had that like out on the road where like something that's just crushing in another setting for you and then I'm saying you're featuring for someone and they're kind of just. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely.

Any of them come to mind? Oh man. There's, I mean, it's just one of those things. I mean, for the most part, I've been fortunate to like the, like the headliners quote unquote that I've worked for have been their crowds are pretty cool.

And they're pretty receptive for the whole show. But some of the hard ones have been like, honestly, I mean, we did this recent one that was, this was more of a music thing that happened. But dude, this was pretty special. We went up against the World Series.

Oh, like game seven. Yeah. Like earlier this year, like we were in Phoenix and we kept delaying the game. It was that game that went, it broke the record for most innings.

I totally remember that. We're on stage tonight doing the comedy jam. Okay. Okay.

And Burr, we already had pushed the show. Burr always closes out. He went first because he wanted to leave because we had waited so long already. And we do this opening.

We're given everything we can trying to win them over. And Burr goes up after us. Like we're kind of like, we're like, hey, man, we did our time to open the show. But like we got to hand it over to you now.

I know you're wanting to leave. Like you've been performing all day this festival for all things comedy. He gets up there, dude. He tries to tell a couple jokes.

And he just starts laughing at how bad the situation is. Because he probably hasn't been in that situation. But what's so great about him is that he addresses it. He addresses it.

He laughed it off, dude. And he goes, why do you say we play some music now? Like let's get to the song. Like I'm not throwing out like new premises here in this bar gig in Phoenix.

It's like, yeah, yeah. I had a long time ago, not a long time ago, but a couple of years back, Mazjo Broni. Yeah. He was one of the first guys to like, hey man, if you see a date and you can make it, I'll let you come out.

Oh, that's super cool. It's so cool, man. And he took me to San Francisco to do cops. And I was like, oh cool man, I'm Bay Area.

And I went up there with my son. I'm like, hey Nate, my son at this point is probably 12. I'm like, dude, we'll roll. You'll get out of school.

We'll hang. He's like, OK, great. My dad was still living in San Francisco. So we had a place to stay.

It was awesome. I bring my show to bring my son. And I'd open for Maz before. And it'd always been super, super cool.

He has a good family audience. So my material would work with it. But I go up there and we do two shows. And I come out on the first show.

And it's like, my son on the free. My son's sitting at a table, like right up front. I'm like, all right dude, watch dad right now. I'm like, I'm not lying.

I was like, dude, you're going to remember this. Like at the funeral, you're going to be like, I remember my dad. He killed us so hard. And he told us to sit right there.

And he was like, cops. And I just want to say it. I totally imagined that moment. So he's sitting up front.

And I remember I come out on stage and it is packed, man. This place a big menu. And I'm like, OK, here we go. First bit, I'm going into it.

And it was one of those things. I threw out the bit already thinking of the second bit. But no laugh. I'm like, all right.

So I'm going in. This is a cops. Dude, this is a cops. No laughs.

No laughs. Then all of a sudden, this is what I knew. That I was just like, this is when I knew something was up. And it hit me.

So at this point, I'd be doing stand up. I'm like, five years in. And all of a sudden, I start sweating. And I'm like, wow, I don't remember the lights being this hoty cobs.

But what I realized was, oh, this is called flop sweat. I'm talking, dude, I'm sweating like, I'm losing LBs when I'm up there. Like, yeah. Like you're on the elliptical.

Just like, yeah. You turn into a gatorade commercial. Like at this point, I'm like, it's a Joe Rogan workout. I'm just sweating.

And I'm like, god, this is not happening. I finally get to the OK, cool. I get done. And go off to just whatever, Luke, Warren, whatever.

And as I'm walking down to grab my son, the spot is following me. And my son, just the room's totally quiet. He goes, oh, that was so bad. Dad, no one laughed.

He says it like that loud. And then that got the best laugh. Like everyone just starts laughing. It's looking at him.

And we go upstairs. And Maz is sitting there. And he's laughing. And I go, Maz, what happened?

He goes, dude, I'm in to tell you, a lot of the people that are going to be at the show tonight, their references and their English might not be on. Like, there's a lot of Persian people. There's a lot of Iranian. So if you're doing certain pop culture references, dude, not even that, just references of like, yeah, when you're playing with your kids, they're just like, no.

We do not play with them. I never tell my children I love them. It was very much. I do not love my children.

They work. He has a 60-hour week job. Absolutely. He makes coffee.

I drink. He's a very good. I think he has a future. Yeah, it was very like, so Maz is laughing.

And then one thing I'll say, and this is something that I'll always remember, he didn't have to do this. He said, all right. And he's about to go on. And he goes, hey, after this, let's sit down.

And we'll work. We're going to get your set together for each other. We're going to go over your set. And I swear to God, he said, do more of this.

Bring this, do that one bit about it. And that was one of the things that changed for me. Because at that point, he's like, you're Italian, right? And he goes, talk about that.

He goes, everyone will dig that. And I'm like, really? And then he really kind of pointed me in that direction. But the thing I always remember is he sat there with me.

We rewrote my set. My son was there saying, you should close with this here. We go through it. I apologize to your son at this point.

My son's 12 at this point. He's almost 15 now. And he basically went back out, second show. And it was way better.

And it worked. And that was a great moment for my son and I. Because he saw, dude, you bombed so bad. And then within an hour, if you sit down and work it out, you can come up with a better set.

And the thing I always loved, though, is it Maz is a headliner. And as big as he is, he did not have to give me that time. And he was like, let's fix this. He could have been like, that sucks to be you.

That sucks, man. Figure it out. That's how a lot of people are. Yeah.

He was very like, let's figure it out together. That's super cool. Yeah. So that kind of energy, it worked out to be a plus, because it made me have to work it out.

Now, you mentioned that you're Italian. Now, we're getting a phone call. I think that you're a very Italian mother is actually calling in right now. No way.

Yeah, yeah. Hello? Is this Joe's mom? Joey, so excited for you.

Are you still coming up for Christmas? Because I've gotten the tree. And Andrew helped me get it. And you know, it's so great.

When he was here, he drove his car over, and we put the tree inside. You remember the little spot that you used to get your ice cream out in SoCal? We went there together. Mom, you know what?

We're doing this thing. I know. Are you still going to be coming up? The surface has been so good, Joey.

I wanted to tell you that, did you know that we were going to have a dinner? Mom, dude. I love him on that. Really common dinner show.

Can I take a bite of her for one second? No, you totally can't. You know, your mom is actually surprisingly, must be like second, third generation of time, because she's pretty Californian. Yeah.

Yeah. You know, my mom is like, so she always reminds me of your Irish and your Italian. And the Irish side is God's side. That's like a true thing.

Are you? Is it Mrs. Sib? Is it Mrs.

Siviano? That's really my last name. Oh, Mrs. Siviano.

Yeah, did you have any other things to say to your son Joe before we wrap up this phone call? I started to do ex. What? Yes, I don't know.

They don't affect me. They don't affect me. But I go down to the beach and sometimes I walk down by the water and I play with the star fishes and the dolphins. And sometimes I try to ride.

I try to ride the waves. Now, Mrs. Siviano, I have a feeling that the edibles are starting to actually affect you. Okay, bye.

I don't like this anymore. No, no, no, I just think that they are affecting you more than you think. I'm going to play my flutes, bye. You just took up playing flutes.

She goes to flutes. She just suddenly plays a flute. All right. All right.

Bye, buddy. I'll do it. I think that the edibles. The most invitation of my mom ever, my mom was listening.

She'd just be like, oh my God. The Italian side is my dad, my grandmother, all that. Okay. My mom, my mom, like I said, Irish.

Oh, so she's not Irish. Like, not Irish. I did her so bad because like she was like working, like raised my sister and I, sold real estate, you know. Yeah.

Smoked cigarettes, drink margaritas, powerhouse. Powerhouses. Like she was very like taking care of business. Yeah.

Like I always say, the first man in my life was my mother. Like she just was so just, you know, like just very don't take any shit. Speak your mind. Work hard.

She's like smoking, giving you condoms. All right. Make sure you put these on. You know what we bonded up.

I remember when we were a kid when I was a kid when I for like a brief moment, I smoked clothes. You never closed cigarettes. Yeah. That was like a real punk thing to do.

Yeah, dude. I was like, oh, that's that. Clothes. And then like, so every car I ever got into as a kid growing up, it was like this, this center of patchouli because I was growing up in San Diego.

It was big. Patchouli, cloves and then like aquana, hairspray and leather. Like this weird combination of odors. But my mom and I bonded because I started smoking cloves and we both sit at the kitchen table and she would smoke her, she was no cur, Benson hedges and I would smoke clothes cigarettes.

Yeah. Sit there and talk and drink coffee. Yeah. Yeah.

I find out your dad is a Marlboro man. Yeah. You need to quit smoking no cigarettes. I just know, but it was weird because I never like, did you ever smoke?

Yeah. Because I remember, like someone, when I first, like when I would talk about you, he's like, you know, he's like, you, you've never done any drugs. And I was like, wow, like it's rare to. Yeah, for sure.

Was that hard being in bands and stuff and not ever doing drugs? You know what? For me, you were in like a lot of the punk scenes like that. And that's like, that's pretty big, you know, like it kind of goes hand in hand with a lot.

Yeah. But you know, for me, like my whole thing was is that like when I got in a punk rock, you know, I was probably about 15, 14 years old. And then when like, when the, when drugs would kind of like, like, I want to say like being in the punk rock probably kept me away from doing drugs because I was able to like, like, you know, at the time there was a band out of DC called Minor Threat that was really all a straight edge and all that. And I'm sure your listeners are like, yeah, we know that.

Yeah, we know that. Yeah, we're not more on. Hey, dude, hey, these listeners did. We're freaking punk aficionados, dude.

Yeah, continue with your story, bro. And the thing that, the thing that ended up happening was that like, I think at that time that that music was hitting so hard and I really related to it. And then when I found out like those guys weren't getting high and getting loaded, you know, I mean, I drank beers, but I never was like, I never was the dude that was like, I just never got into smoking weed. I remember one time in high school, like I went to see the circle jerks in San Francisco and I bought black beauties from this guy and I'm like a Zeppelin shirt and like a little mustache, you know, like you almost kind of look like you with a mustache.

Dude, the amount of people who say that I've looked like they're called remit or drug dealers or something from their past like I think I just have one of those like it's the hair mix with the face and the heads I do. Oh, I remember a while ago, I was listening to the podcast and you got to guess on and you did a bit like when someone goes, dude, you know who you look like? Oh, Dave Ross did that episode. Yeah.

And they show you a picture and you're like, Oh, dude, I don't look like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And if I do, I'm bummed. stoked.

I've never been like that dude's hot. Wow. That's a good looking guy. Dude, what Brad Pitt?

Yeah, thank you. Never. Never. Yeah.

Someone said to me, you know who you look like? And I was like, who? And they said the name of the guy that made like, I forgot that he made that clear. It's like this tape where he drives around in a boat.

Have you ever seen that commercial? No. It's like this. I know, I know someone's like an infomercial guy.

Infomercial guy? I don't want to look like an infomercial guy. Why are you telling me I look like that? And of course, like my son looked at him and then now around the house, whatever the dude's name is, they invented this tape.

They're like, and he's like, this overweight man. I'm like, dude, I do not look like a guy. But then like alone, when you look at it, I was kind of like, I was kind of like, I'm like, you don't want to be like, dude. Yeah.

But when you're solo by yourself, you know, but yeah, I just remember reflecting night, I'm like, I look like all those other people laying there but crying. The thing though, I think the thing that kept me out, you know, out of doing drugs was like, I was just totally being honest. I was just super scared of something starting, not like I would become addicted. But like, I just like, the fact it was called acid was totally poor marketing.

Like if it would have been called good time all day, like I'm like that freaking out. And the LSD is a much less harsh name, you know what I mean? That still too was too gnarly for me. Yeah.

What does initial stand for? You know, like, you know, it's all like, it was too much for me to even comprehend that a trip could last 12 hours, even longer. Well, there's some drugs. It's a freaking time commitment where you're like, I don't even know why I was going to that.

I don't have the time to do that. But when you're 14 or 15, you do. But there was there was people I know that like, they'd be like, dude, he's frying. And even that, that's like, wait a minute, frying.

Did you play music with any of those like kind of burnout guys who like did acid like all the guys I played with the thing the people that I played with, we had like a guitar player that used to do speed. But by the time we started playing together, he didn't. And he started saying like, you know, like, dude, he goes, if we gave you speed or coach, it would probably mellow you out because like, I was the kid that was like, I would, I would go to the, you know, punk shows and back then it was like seven bands. I paid full price.

And then I would literally, I was the kid that would be in the pit from the first band to the very end stage, like, like to the point where like the people that worked for the club, they would say like, dude, you should be in a band. And I remember this roadie saying that to me once he was like this dude, you know, fully tatted and just like, you know, gnarly guy and you're like a little kid and away all the gears, the sound man, everything, you know, like putting the stage back together after a band had just played. And I'm just sitting there, and he's just like, man, like, are you in a band? And I'm like, no, he's like, you should be.

And I was like, like, I never, I never, I never got to do that. Yeah, I could do that. Yeah. And I was like, what do you mean?

Because you're more into it than the guys on stage. And I was like, yeah. And then that kind of was like the spark, you know, and then plus since I wasn't doing drugs, it, you know, in the punk scene then too, that what I drew me in was the fact that, you know, you get an idea like that you could find three other people and like, okay, we're a band. No one has instruments, guys going to borrow a guitar, but like, you start going, yeah, let's learn a song and then you have your first practice and you're like, we're a band dude.

This is wild. But I have the roadie on the line who encouraged you to to get into music. I think I think I knew your guy was a lot of those dudes like in the hardcore scene would like move out here. Okay.

You know, so he's in New York, dude. Hey, he's the size. Joe, is this CJ? Yo man, CJ, bro.

Dude, what is up? Hey, bro, I just want to call and tell you, man, I'm like really proud of you, man. CJ, I got to say, man, like from when you told me to start a band, dude, is it true that you're calling up to man? And the fact that you went on to join the Ramones, dude, CJ Ramone calling in, this is crazy.

Yeah, man, this is me, dude, CJ Ramone, bro. Dude, you sound exactly like CJ Ramone. I mean, dude, that's how CJ sounds, man. Yeah, man.

So like, what's the latest with you, man? Oh, dude, uh, dude, I'll tell you, bro, here's the thing. I'm actually your guardian angel, bro. I've been watching your stand up career boss.

I'm like, I'm gonna be gonna be happier with what's going on. Bro, I'm, I'm psyched. CJ, say that and, you know, you were such an influence back then, man. You're always so cool, man.

Always so cool. Yeah, you know, that's just one of those things that us guardian angels can do. We can change the position of our voice and stuff like that. But like, but if you're my guardian angel, like, like, did you die?

Like, are you not around anymore? I mean, I can't disclose that information in the moment, but let's just say that I can be in two places at once. Man, I'm stoked to hear from you, man. Thanks for calling.

Yeah, dude. Keep it up, bro. And, uh, you know, you never know, you know, for your listeners out there, Jeremiah. Yeah.

Uh, did you want to give us some advice to some of the listeners? Yeah, you never know when you're gonna get a life changing advice from a roadie. So, uh, listen to every roadie at every concert you go to. Absolutely.

Those are the people you should hit up. Don't talk to the band. Talk to the guy moving the gear. Good.

Bye. Wow. All right. That's cool.

Dude, CJ Ramone calling in, bro. You know what, man? And he's, dude, he's lived it. Dude, he's lived every aspect.

Dude, he went, replaced DD Ramone, toured with the Ramones. And then now man's guardian angel. I mean, I knew what more can you ask for in life, dude. Hell's Angels.

Like he showed up with a ton. So he's like a lot of angels. A lot of angel. Hell's Angels.

Hell's Angels. Heaven's Angels. Guardian angels. Guardian angels.

And like guardian angels. Yeah, dude. Charlie's Angels. He's the fan of that show.