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EPISODE · Nov 25, 2025 · 33 MIN

Kafka’s Merry-Go-Round of Hell: A Podcast with Laura St. John

from The Border Chronicle · host Todd Miller

The legal director of the Florence Immigrant and Refugee Rights Project provides an on-the-ground analysis of and reckoning with year 1 of the Trump administration’s detention and deportation regime.What happens after an arrest? How many people have been detained? And what happens to asylum seekers?And what exactly is Kafka’s merry-go-round of hell?Laura St. John answers these questions and more.But, perhaps most importantly, St. John provides practical answers for what concerned people might do about it. She offers an antidote to the “sense of hopeless inevitability” that the Trump administration is purposefully creating for undocumented people.For 15 years, St. John has been working for the Florence Project—an organization that provides legal assistance and advocacy for undocumented people in detention.Support independent news from the U.S.-Mexico border. Become a paid subscriber today for just $6 a month or $60 a year. Get full access to The Border Chronicle at www.theborderchronicle.com/subscribe

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