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Kamar Hates Canada

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For what reason did you listen to that fuel song this week? Um, I need to know. Because I love crazy pop music. And like, when I say love, it's the same way I watch YouTube videos.

So they- I'm not confused even more. No, I guess so. It's just like, it's like, Nickelback. I love that song.

Um, you know, bit down from the bottom of everybody, you know what I mean? To the bottom of everybody. You know how hard it is? Like I don't want to admit this to you.

But I love like that. Those jams as well as crazy stuff which does- And they say that hero can save us. No, you lost you by that time. I lost you by that time.

Wait, what's that? I don't know what you think. She's great. She's great.

No, that's- I like Taylor Swift songs. Taylor Swift songs. Yeah, they're pretty cheesy. But I do not like that Creed song.

It's not even Creed's. It's fuel. Nickelback. Whatever that is.

Same thing. My point to map being is that there are fucking jams that are 30 years old. Of course. They're just sitting there that the familiarity, like the biggest brand of music is remixes.

Or interpolation or whatever. Like all pop music is repurposed. We're recording and I just admitted to liking XEX and fucking- Maybe the humanizing. But the only thing is I watched this whole thing on closing time.

Semi-sonic. It's 100% about giving birth. Thank you. He admits it in this thing I watched.

This is funny. The fact that he can play both ways. No, it's brilliant. Oh, there's a perfect pop song.

It's fucking ridiculous. I feel like you owe me an apology because when I said it, you fucking cack out all over me. I owe you. I mean, you owe us all an apology for last week.

But I'll apologize to you for that for sure, Matt, for sure. You're the son of the fucking- I owe you a huge apology for semi-sonic. Semi-sonic. Yeah.

You're going to apologize to that. You're not- I looked that up and just held my tongue. The perfect. of the podcast.

They are Canadian? No, they're from Minnesota. Dude, that's crazy that Alexander Walker is fucking Shays cousin. Yeah, I know.

And real cousins or McGrady Carter cousins. Well, think about the name Alexander. Oh, yeah. So Alexander, Alexander Walker.

So they're real cousins. No, because that was always a scam, right? That's a racist. Grady or McGrady and Carter were cousins.

No, they're like moms were best friends or whatever, and they called each other cousins. It was like, cousin. Well, I say cousin is easier than third cousin twice removed because I come into a family like that. We're definitely have no cousins.

Oh, trust me, if I was cousins with either McGrady or Carter, I would call them my brother, not my cousin. We would be once more brothers. And I'd be demanding money. And I'd call them brother like that.

And it's crazy when you find out there's people who are raised by their mom, but it's their aunt or something. I know a few people like that. Yeah. And when those people find out about that, I grew up with somebody like that.

I'm saying, I'm not saying anyone I know in particular, I just know of this happening. And it leads me to that. Every single person looks as shift differently. When they were, don't know if you watch, but they were interviewing the Sends.

No sense nation that happens. All the players right after, you know what I mean? And I thought I'd see Brady, whatever I don't care, but I still believe he fucking totally cared and stuff. Brady Kachuk.

Brady doesn't give a fuck. I've just said what I feel. Watching him give that all the same tears in the locker room. We all look at the world differently through different eyes.

But there was another guy. That's one of the worst hockey series I've ever witnessed. It was so bad. And listen, we had a lot of things working against us, but the biggest one was fucking Brady.

He has been working against us all goddamn years. Ever since the Olympics, he's decided he hates fucking Canada. It was a problem. Every time he got the fuck you.

I think all of them were the problems. You know what? Tim Stusel is the only fucking reason we're even in the playoffs. In a four game series, in a four game series.

Not fucking Brady. That's why he's on the team. Brady's on the team. I understand why you feel that way.

But it makes sense that you would like Brady, though. That's not the title. I started by preamble. He listens.

I would be sure he was checked out. I think I agree with you how I feel, what he feels. But when I watch him in an interview, I felt he actually cared and whatever. I guess what Simon's saying is like, potentially tonight if I see Kevin Durant in the locker room.

It was a tough series. I'm going to be like, fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.

Based on the interview, I don't believe that's true. But there was a guy, Cleven. I know him. Who in his interview seemed like he was waiting to post up on.

You know what I mean? He was just waiting. He broke his jaw. I judge people by their actions.

So I'm judging Brady by what he did the whole season. The person he was. Not the tears he cries in the locker room when they fucking go over. Does that include the Olympics and stuff?

Yeah. OK, well that's your problem. No. That's just adding to it.

You got a separate church from state? I watched the senators since the very beginning of the season. Brady has been a non-fucking issue the whole goddamn year. All he's good for is, oh, I'm going to start a fight at the beginning of the game because I think it hypes up my team.

It just takes a player who should be one of our best guys off the ice for five minutes to start the game. It doesn't help anybody. It's fucking garbage. And he wasn't out there protecting his team this year.

He was fighting because he thought it would do good for his resume. I did not watch enough games to want an opinion on his. Simon's wife who watches every one of them. And I watched them with her.

I know. With Below Deck on a smaller TV. On my phone. I felt he was crestfallen.

No, I had to take a break from Below Deck. We only have one television. So who's your pick now? The Canadians.

Oh my god. Well, no, because I asked you guys last week, and you both were like, raw raw sins, and I knew I wasn't going to get a realistic answer out of you. So now that we're gone. It's going for the oilers, though.

I'm not asking you're rooting for it. I'm just like, if I gave you $1,000 right now to put on a future. I know those flyers look pretty fucking good. Oh, the whole league.

No, I just want to get an 18-2 win so bad. Oh, if Montreal wins, I might have to quit watching hockey. Why? Because your cousins will shoot on shoot?

No, because I just like, if Montreal and Toronto win before we do it, it's what? It isn't a fun watching them burn their own city down. Only when they lose. Either way.

They never have a Vancouver lost, and they burnt their own city down. That was amazing. The Canada needs this big time, especially Montreal. I'll give you that.

We do need it, but Montreal is our sworn enemy. I just want to be real. What? We must be a shit country.

You guys are like, for morale, a Stanley Cup win would really fucking win. It's our national pass time. We only have six teams. None of us ever make it fucking pass the first round, or the second round.

Like, we need it. We lost the Olympics. We fucking need it. But what if, is it a good thing if Carolina just runs Ruckshaw?

Sweep everyone with Joey Cup. Yes. Do we feel like we can do it? We'll move it.

We'll move it. We'll move it. You know what could happen? Anyone, if they get bounced.

Let me tell you what 100% is not going to happen. Carolina winning the Stanley Cup. The doubt it. I mean, you keep saying that.

They make it. I mean, they lose in the conference finals right here. But weren't you talking to me about having to have a superstar? Yeah.

They're a team with out a superstar. Rob Brindomor. Rob Brindomor. I keep, he looks like he's ready to put on the pass.

In his coach. I know he is. I said, Rob Brindomor. No, he was a hard, though.

He was a hard guy, but he wasn't. Hard, hard. Hard. Yeah.

Hard. Hard. Hard. Hard.

Hard. Hard. Hard. He's the one.

Brady's supposed to be a hard team, and he's saying his heart. Isn't it? No. His heart's in his podcast.

If you look at, I think about now when you look at players, what thing they bring, especially the playoffs, and his heart. It's just an extra thing of desperation, not trying to be too good. When the rest of the league talks about Brady, they talk about him in the same breath as other superstars in the league. You can't talk about him like that, because the guy can't pass.

He can't fucking score goals. He can't do fucking anything. He's injured all the time. Would you rather have him or his brother?

Like, if he's his brother, of course. I just wanted to know. He's Jake Ball. They're both goddamn assholes.

That's exactly what they are. They're both assholes, but I'll take the other assholes. I think the problem is you think he doesn't care. I think he does care.

I think that's a problem. And you have a mountain of evidence to tell me why you don't take my opinion for Canadian politics, because you don't think I pay attention enough? That's how I'm feeling about this senator's discussion. Okay.

Okay. You're more of a politician, you're more of a sports guy. No, just in this case. Okay.

By the way, LeBron James. The greatest of all time. I mean, he's got to be in the fucking conversation. Get the fuck out of here.

The guy's my 100 years old. The guy's my age. He was the steal, right? Which I'd like to get a close up on that.

If he went get 30 the other night, like, but did you see the steal? Yeah. And in my head at first, I watched it and then I watched again and go, no, he knew from the get go, you know, get him to go there so I can reach around for the easy poke. So that combination of experience and I wonder if he's on all the tides.

If you want, of course he is. He spends a million dollars a year. But you can spend a million dollars and just be like holistic. When they talk about sports smarts, like guys who understand the game they play, he is a prime example of that.

But he gets it. It's not a surprise. You know what I mean? He started 17 days.

No, for sure. But sometimes I just thought like, hold on. We're all we're all at least his age or older. Much older.

No, and what I'm it's it's insane watching LeBron a lot of the time because I'm not a fan. Of course. I was like, this guy doesn't give a fuck. He mails it in.

But watching him this year, when Luca goes down and you need him to step up and he fucking steps up like something the sense couldn't be. I'm just saying again, like, dude, if you look at the lineup of guys that he's going to bring through the first round, like even if Reeves plays tonight, sorry, the fact that they did that the first three games to a team that was like a second overall or second. They might have been second overall. I think you could read every single player on his team to Kumar and Kumar would say who?

Yeah, who who who the Lakers, they're full of nobody's. It's LeBron and a team of nobody's nobody's though, right? No, no, no, no. The Rockets don't have Kevin Durant.

They haven't. Well, he played a few. He played enough. They didn't listen.

I didn't he had 10 turnovers in the first half. Yeah, that's brutal. I wonder. I also had taken fucking four games off.

I wonder if LeBron James learned from who's the big guy. He's not doing too well. Do you know what I mean? Saw how he played the game and realized he doesn't joke.

Yes, as his athleticism sort of dissipates, which is still at a crazy level to play the game a bit differently. I mean, I'm sure. I'm sure because look, he scores less points. He gets more assists, more rebounds.

He puts himself in the three way. He shoots the three way. Over the last six years, he shot the three. And you know, it's the same thing with everything, which makes football the most difficult is preserving yourself from the coming down on a foot.

Well, they have way shorter life sands too, right? Like football players. No, no, football players don't last very long. Really?

Unless you're in the sport or back. Unless you're in the sport or back. Unless you're Tom Brady. If there were no injuries, they probably laughed.

This is what I'm saying. It's such a fucking tough sport. Like you're bound to get in the last ball. The last ball has to fall.

Listen, the fact that LeBron. They're awkward. He went like 4,000 straight games scoring 10 points. Yeah, this is fucking business.

Now keep in mind. They cheated that completely. Whatever. It's like Michael Bridget.

Michael. Yeah, yeah. Some of the hits and hockey I find. Joke.

Or how they get out. Off to the don't get out. Did you see Cleven hit that dude last night? That's what they were laughing at.

It was insane. It was insane how hard he hit him. And Stutes like hitting that guy in the knee with the puck. I thought he broke his fucking knee bone right there.

And he pebles off. That would have been a goal. Well, and they fucking, the guy came on like three strides before he had gotten off the ice. That's a fucking penalty.

That's too many. That's too many. When you get that score, you don't pull the goalie. Of course.

You finish the game one on one. You'll go to get one last shot. Bring the boys down. You score the goal.

You don't like. That's exactly why. That's why he's got a goal. Learn green, it's the most sense thing ever to pull the goalie, give up the shittiest and be never ever g Absolutely right at that point, put your fucking goalie back in the net do what you've done all season dump the puck in, for check, and get a fucking goal.

Just hear me out. We were terrible. We could barely score the power. And he's had it.

Every time he got the puck. Just like before we just talking about senators. It's got to get out. There's got to get out.

I need nobody cares. out of the 50 episodes we will do in a year. I don't think we've talked about the sentence. No, no, I agree and people probably thanked us for it.

But maybe not. I agree. I'm just saying, you know, when our team gets made, we're gonna spend five minutes. And it's a playoff loss.

And I contend that, you know, it's better to get swept than to lose in seven. Oh my God, I cannot agree with that statement. Getting swept is a clean break. Jesus Christ, you break up.

Getting seven is like, are we doing this? Are we doing this? No, I just agree. You go all the way to the new year of the chance.

This is like your old year addicted to losing thing. I cannot agree with that statement. No, if they win yesterday, and then they just blown out. No, we have a chance to go win.

Of course, you're chipping a chair, but it's over with now. Last year we came back from three. Nothing. Don't forget that.

You know what's funny is for me. Don't forget that I was cheering for the sense. From a selfish perspective, it really hurt. Like it's not good for business.

The deeper the sense go for me. That's across the board. And no, because I depend on that money. And I mean, I, but you don't, because you do your thing regardless.

No, on the Wednesday, no, no, on the Wednesday, they would shut it down. Oh, well, that's garbage. Well, dude, no, the sense is coming. Shutting something down.

Sense. They would almost, you know what? I bet those boys would even just pay me the money to not show up. I was going to say they should have to do it.

I don't have, I don't have a contract. No, those boys have been good to me. No, I'm not getting any. They're conforting.

Can I lend you someone from my race to help you out with a fucking, because that's ridiculous. They have to. You have to have that. Again, I have a good working relationship with those guys.

I bet if it was like, Sen's mild, they probably, they'd be like, do we're going to make a million money? No, you gotta also make Jewish lawyer, but any more. Cload, load, do it. And also you have to buy a print in perpetuity.

My relationship with you. Yes. You see, come on. No, exactly what he's stopping.

It's unbelievable. And then somehow you misalise and you're enslaved for life. They found a loophole that clode put in there. Oh man.

It's closed, Mr. fucking comma. And now I owe them. Matt's doing trivia from beyond the grave.

Yeah, it really seems like it's going to come so close and just go full matrix or something about what it is. Whatever the future holds. Who knows when it holds? What can I play right now?

You think they're lying about everything. I do, but at the same time I could see us making the decision to scorch the sky to kill the machine. Like I don't think that's beyond human beings. Who's gonna scorch the sky?

We are. No. The military's got the AI already. Well then we're all fucked.

At some point, yeah, that's how life goes. But maybe there are like, you know how you say there are rich people at bunkers? Yeah. Maybe there are rich people reserve nukes, wherein each bunker everybody has one missile and when it's time to scorch the sky, that's what happens.

Because those are not attached to AI. Those are manual. You have to turn the crank to bring the rocket up. It feels like the fuse.

Yeah. Resistance. That's rocket. Resistance will be harder than coming to it.

Resistance will be harder than... Like, I think right now people are on a fine line of living a fine life without a phone. Maybe a land line going back to that and just getting by. First of all, you'd have to do that because the resistance wouldn't work.

You get a text from Peter Thiel directly and it'd be a video of him being like, hello, Matt Floyd. You are at and then he'd say my address and he... I read this wicked book. It was called Robopocalypse.

I think that's what it's called and it's all about the machines taking over that kind of situation. And then there are all these like resistance movements, but the guys who are the strongest resistance movements are the native people, the native Americans, the native Canadians, because they've been living off the land for the whole time. Off the grid. That's where everybody wants to go join because they still have all the shit they had before, which maybe wasn't great but was...

100% I think that's what's going to happen on some sort of children of men's shit. Love it. And of course, there'd be young people... No, that'd be actually really cool if the robot overlords were to make a reservation.

But it was totally livable and nice, you know what I mean? Young people would want to go to that. No, no. That's not what I'm saying at all.

Sorry, you're coming up. What I was trying to say is right now, you can survive without a cell phone. Yeah. I think fine.

A couple of things would be easier but you can live without it. But I think 10 years from now, to try to live unless you find a place like that society, it'll really not enjoy life. I think that... For the worst.

Humans are so resilient, proven, throughout history. Maybe not with the cell phone but with something else. We could lose the cell phone 10 years from now and it won't make a fucking goddamn difference. We can go back to living like we did because that's what we come from.

I know what that's right now. The only way would be to turn off the power. No, I keep saying it though. Dude, if you just wiped out all the shitty apps from your phone and just kept your phone in your pocket, it's not really a problem anymore.

At all. There's your personal environment but it's coming up around you whether you like it or not. If you did, but what I'm saying, think about it. Okay, what you said was you could survive without it and I thought about that statement and I was like, yeah, right now living my life, if I just lost my cell phone and it never came back, I'd be fine.

Then I thought I was like, if I was in an actual survival scenario, probably definitely want my phone. You want a phone? Yeah. Well, like, dude, first of all- There's no phone lines, then there's no phone.

Oh, well. Forget the phone. Like, there's so much stuff that you can download. Like, you could download a survival guide for your phone right now that's not internet based.

It's just how much is your charge for that? How to try not? How to find not. He's charging the phone.

That's the problem. He's right. I don't know if there's a problem though. I think he can do with potatoes, right?

Like, the way he's to make electricity. No, I was watching a thing about Thomas Edison and like Tesla worked for him. No. No.

No. No, they were at odds. No, they were at odds. No, someone worked for him.

Edison was the- Edison was the- He said he was the government plant that they put in to get rid of Tesla. Yeah, Palantir and- Aropic and- Trisha. No one worked with Tesla. None of those fucking- I know that Edison and Tesla were at odds because Tesla had all the shit.

He was the smarts and Edison was the guy they put in to dis-wade people from believing Tesla. Okay. But again, I'm stupid. I could be wrong.

So that's a massive turning point. But the only way to thwart AI's impending doom or- Simon also used to- Simon also used to shut the power off. You can buy those, um, those battery packs that are solar powered. Yes, that- Anyone who is worried should have one of those- All I- I think everyone should have one.

Already, I'm saying- All I'm saying that is- Take the phone, smash it on the ground. You know what still exists. Yeah, I got it. Books.

Yeah, I got it. Books with lots of information in the mobile building fires and maps and- Yeah, yeah. So that's why I say Simon, my point is- To take your road is going to be a lot harder than just to succumb to it. Oh yeah, I'm sure.

And we are not, I think, as resistant as you think and take the easy road more than not. Resilient. Resilient but resistant to the ease- Comfort. Again, because we have it.

I think that if you saw it taken away, you would see how resilient we would become. But take your way of me shutting off the power. Sure, or if it's something that like you hate the idea of, but if the governments of the world stepped in and said, you know what? Social media is no more.

These companies can no longer do the thing they're doing. And like Matt said, your phone now becomes a tool of a compass and a fucking, maybe a map system or what all things that have nothing to do with buying apps or paying money. They're just, you know what I'm saying? No, I can get that Spotify on there, like a music server.

No, but this one leads to the- It's something like, I imagine Venom and Eddie. Yeah, I hear you. That intertwined though, just like you need the bell. I'm okay.

Do you see Tim Dillens? No. Show this week. He has a soldier on, maybe his idea.

I mean, it's a skit. Yeah. And he was, because he was making fun, I guess, of Joe and Ibogaine in the White House. He said, Ibogaine is now giving me the ability to kill without feeling bad.

Like it was just a complete satire. You wonder who he's throwing his arrows at or not. I saw John Stewart on the Daily Show and he says, Trump had such a problem with saying the word Ibogaine. They gave you the easiest one.

They could have given you ayahuasca. But it might be impending doom that if all the jobs are taken, everyone just joins the army to work. Or what I say is that as well as people who only work four hours a day, two days a week or what I mean. He's already talked about, there'll still be jobs, but you just won't have to work as long.

He's already talked about conscription. Who? Trump. Sure.

And come on, just talk about it too. But the jobs, I don't understand. So I still make the same money. So I don't have enough to live.

No, I guess you get paid more money. I don't know. So it's Elon's thing where the universal basic income isn't basic. It's universal, really good.

Incredible. Universal super great, amazing income. Just as a magic number. If you're allowed to do everything you're doing right now and you got $2,000 a month, that would be not enough.

You don't feel that's enough. I hate the idea. Hold on, I get $2,000 and I get to keep working. Yes.

Make it all the money. If you're asking me what I like, $2,000 a month, yeah, but that doesn't make sense. So I would say no to that. And so that, just as a magic number, we could look as a foundation of what, you'd still work and you'd be subsidized that.

You wouldn't still work because the whole point of the subsidizing is that they're taking away your job. If you're self-employed, you'd be just saying, your job's not going to take it away. We'll just make a machine to do the trivia. But that already exists.

I'm going to implement that. Well, what some people say is that there's going to be a premium on just personality and stuff. Even though robots could serve, it's just too jump in the shark. You want to hear something hilarious?

They better be funny. Well, it's hilarious, ironic. The biggest growing segment of brick and mortar stores are bookstores. So the very first thing that Amazon killed, the books, are now coming back.

People want to shop for books in person. They don't want to shop for them on Amazon, which I think is a real good sign for the future. That the thing that they tried to take away first is the first one to come back. So maybe it's just a cyclical thing.

Maybe. I doubt it. No, I think everything else is fun. We're tactile people, so we want to have stuff.

It takes time. Yeah, no, I agree with that. But look. And I think...

Kid didn't kindle just like the value books. No, I think it just cut itself. So if you're in Kindle, it's just gone. Oh, my grandmother will be devastated.

Well, you can still get like iBooks. No, I'm just saying that might have been one of these people like, oh, we have to read again. I don't know how we can use a Kindle. I don't read it as much as I should.

But yeah, I guess that's a promising sign. I mean, I never understood Kindle. Like half of the thing for me about reading a book is having that book to put on my bookshelf to prove to everybody how smart I am. Nobody is fucking looking at my iPad to look at how many books he has in there.

That does shit for me, you know? So people are reading half of the ego? I mean, I was. And I'll tell you something else.

I was even reading. I was just buying books. When we had Tiki Winkles, we used to do these midnight releases of Harry Potter books. Oh, that's fine.

We had the first editions Harry Potter. If I had kept that perfect condition, I would be like a goddamn millionaire right now. You just sold none of them. If I had just kept the whole stock, imagine.

No, no, no, no. You don't even sell one. You know what's so funny is like if I had... Pokemon, do you know a lot of that?

Pokemon, Lego, like all these things that I sold for a fucking 30% margin. If I had just kept in a box in the basement. No, if you'd accidentally had to go out of business earlier for some reason, and you just had to put everything in storage and forgotten about it, that would have been good. When you go out of business, you usually liquidate.

No, but I meant like there was something terrible that happened that you couldn't even liquidate. You know what I mean? You were forced to just... But did that cross your mind?

No, not for a second. Not only would we just shut down, you know? Like who knows what that could be in 10 years? No, because I'm done.

Really? Yeah. Okay, well we'll move on. Then you couldn't see that Pokemon was going to become what it is now.

No, I knew it was popular, but I didn't know it was going to trade. No, but you had unopened boxes of stuff. So many. Yeah, those boxes were $30,000 a piece now.

Yeah. I think we should think conservatively. Yeah. It's disgusting.

But you know what? They won't hold their value. I agree. So they better sell it now.

Because look at Beanie Babies. Look at fucking NFTs. Beanie Babies. So people were taking out their 401ks to buy Beanie Babies because the market was so strong that the growth in accumulating rare Beanie Babies was more than you were going to make in the stock market.

It took one move from one greedy individual to crash the entire thing. Ty, the guy who owned it, decided that. Yeah, they were going to reissue all the reissue, the retired Beanie Babies and that one move, crash the whole fucking thing. Anyways, I think four hours is a, that's fine time for anyone to work and work will not be a chore to you.

And because that's the biggest problem, right? We are working so hard at jobs or at jobs they do not like and they can't even see a future. And that's where frustration sets in. The problem with what you're saying is like, it was like Adam Schiff, the guy that's always like by gold, by gold, the guy that went down and argued with all the kids at fucking.

The guy that went down and argued with all the kids that occupied Wall Street. Anyway, that was a huge time. He very famously was having an argument with this guy at Occupy Wall Street and the guy was like, I think every dollar you make over $2 million a year should be taxed at 70%. Adam Schiff's come back to him was, then what I'm going to do is I'm going to work three months of the year and then once I hit my $2 million mark, I'm not going to work again.

I'm going to furlough all my employees and I'm going to send them off. And that was his argument. That's the thing and that's Joe's biggest point. That's the most interesting social experiment.

Well, I can tell people are only doing it for the thought of grandeur wealth. Okay, but either way. Not just because they're passionate about it. Okay, sure.

But a guy like Elon Musk has more money than anyone. He still sleeps on the floor of the factory. So that throws that out. I don't know.

Maybe that's all lies. Well, my point is this, the people that make $40 million a year, come on. They're two, 16 hours a day. Well, no, but my point is that they don't stop working because they have to pay the government 30% right now.

No, stop. No, but if they had to pay 80%, they're going to do exactly what Adam Schiff said they were. Either way. So what about that?

What about that? Fine. But that's still okay. It's government.

It's government. It's lunch. You're actually you're actually going to strengthen the next point I'm making, which is that this thing Kumar is talking about can't and won't work. No, I'm agreeing with you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because here's why. So Amazon wants you to buy products from them, but no one's working because Amazon's killed all I'm just using Amazon as an example because Amazon's killed all the jobs, right? So there's no one working less. No, no, you're holding on in your thing.

They're working less because they're getting money from someone. They're working four hours a day to eight hours. Yeah, but the point is is that money has to come from somewhere and in your thing is you don't want to come from the government. That's for sure.

Of course you do. But how does it come from the government? Because the government is letting these AI things operate without any oversight. Okay, but they are they are contributing to our demise right now.

Okay. So you're with me then Amazon is going to have to pay that money to the government. Of course. Okay, but they're paying their someone $20 a year instead of.

But here's my point is Amazon is doing is giving you $2,000 so that you can give it back to them to buy Amazon products. You see what I'm saying? It's the same thing. No, it's the same thing.

Adam Schiff is saying where why would Amazon want to give you the money that they're none of it makes sense and then it's going to get washed and taxed like. It's the most interesting thing because I've always thought there's going to be a breakthrough manufacturing that you don't need factories to make the ship people want. I mean, certain things like they're automating car factories. Maybe that's the base.

Have you seen any of those? But that's a perfect example. Like they've been automating car factories for the better part of 100 years. Cars have gone up exponentially in price.

Like TV's come to the. So the fact that the fact that they've gotten rid of the workforce by and large and the cars that we got more expensive. Or if 10 years ago Tesla would have cost, you know, $200,000. But the other perfect example because Elon Musk like he has 450 billion.

He's not going to he's not going to lower any prices. He's not going to pay that money to the government. He'll just stop doing the shit. Well, no part of the problem is and you had a problem with the Canadian government, the US government does it too.

They protect like all those car companies should be out of business because China makes because China makes a much greater, much cheaper electric vehicle. You see, if they opened up the markets and said China can sell you a car, immediately four goes out of business. All those. That's the same thing.

They opened up the market for the dairy. No, I agree. That's a perfect. No, I'm using your example from earlier saying if the US government tomorrow said, listen, it's actually free market right now.

The Chinese can come in and sell you their 20 or their $15,000 EV. Every single business in the US is going to buy a $15,000 EV because it makes the most sense. Everyone, it's bottom line stuff. And then I wonder.

So Tesla sorry, just in closing, I will wait a minute. I told you it was business. Tesla's our business immediately because their car is triple the price. Wherever free market.

But I guess on the flip side is Elon is probably charging you so much more than he has to for the cars. So maybe he could charge the same thing that the Chinese charge he just doesn't because he doesn't have to. That's even worse. He's saying he could just lower the prices.

He's gouging you for sure. I'm certain he is. Well, it's lost to the point that I think people are just inspired to do stuff. It's not the money.

But the thing that is people are only doing we only have what we have is because people are chasing wealth. Well, hold on. What do you think people are inspired to do not because of wealth? Well, you're saying it's not.

Everybody's inspired by wealth. Even if you're even if it's your art, you're still inspired by wealth. No, there's a point where you don't know about money. I wonder what when I played soccer as an eight year old was I thinking about maybe one day I'll make money this.

Maybe if I just told me that the second that you need money, you start thinking about ways to make money. Yeah. And I sold drugs. But hold on.

But come on. When Benson Boone is living in an apartment with just a mattress and a piano and he writes beautiful things, do you not think in his head? He's like, man, it would be great if this thing fucking took off. I know he is because he went on American Idol.

Well, yeah. So that's the ultimate pursuit of well. Everybody is. Yeah.

Well, I mean, the idea of that. But the idea of capital, but yeah, but then what you're looking for is communism. So why what is communism? Well, I'm saying well, because in a communist, in a communist, we don't chase wealth at all.

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