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this is just one of these things it's yeah it's not I don't know there's not a lot to take away from this other than sadness I think there were two other kids I think there were three kids on the flight so I mean this is just a tragedy you know on all sorts of levels I think they'll talk a lot about I don't know if it was a single pilot helicopters are generally seen as more dangerous and a lot of people wealthy people similar than Sao Paulo and Los Andos had taken to the skies because the traffic has become so bad and then at what point do pilots have you know what what are your limits in terms of when you'll fly when you once for example came out today that the LAPD had grounded all their helicopters because of the weather but I think it's interesting a couple things that I noticed as it was unfolding one TMZ came out before supposedly the Bryant family had notified and the issue is she does media have some sort of responsibility on issues like these to coordinate with authorities such that we can give families the grace of finding out from the authorities not hearing about it on Twitter well obviously I think so but it's just you know Harvey Levin's been sort of pioneering this kind of instant first I can't imagine there was even a question of and that in that office of let's get it up unfortunately I would not make that call but you know it's the atmosphere now of this thing but you're right in any case it was it's incredible tragedy we're talking about more later but of course Bryant as many reports noted today it was not without controversy he was he had an alleged sexual assault in 2003 that got enormous amount of attention that that later he apologized for and was settled out of court but there's all kinds of things but he'd been doing a ton around kids and playing basketball and was taking his daughter to a team meet a travel team with the other kids on them then he had agreed to the center for kids play up in up in the area he was willing to he had been well known for using helicopter actually to get around from his house he lived down south I got back and forth in games and the other observation was it feels as if his legacy will be a lot about his daughters and what a family man was he was married I think at the age of 22 and yeah I'm like a lot athletes they married things married for 19 years four daughters so and it's people we talk on speaking a lot about that and also in our side I mean he will go down he was gonna go down as an iconic figure regardless but absolutely there's definitely in terms of you know cementing itself as an icon dying early seems to be a component of it because people just remember you love love what we don't want to live long but James seen him out on the road just went that talented I'm not gonna go into with you we're not discussing dead people tell but but they but they it was he had just had a baby actually in June yeah seven months ago yeah I know it made me sad I just have baby it is sad all right let's get you out of this Kara yeah yeah let's talk about let's talk about the president actually threatening a representative Congress in this weird tweet which of course he always tries to draw the line but this is a such an implicit threat as the impeachment trial was going on Trump tweeted on Sunday that representative Adam Schiff is a quote corrupt politician that's all in caps and probably a very sick man he has not paid the price comma yet for what he has done to our country which was I don't know it just seemed to like a little whistle call for all the crazies out there to do something about it and I just I checked or something put on his list and meet the press the congressman said he believed it was a threat I was on this and then of course John Bolton when it looks like he's probably like this the GOP senators are gonna use anti-press logic to not call witnesses which is it's just astonishing their corruption and toxicity but when they do that like Bolton someone brought in your Bolton's drop this book which is like the president's a liar and I was in the room and that's what the book is called it's an astonishing situation we're in yeah John Bolton is like Sophia Coppola in 1992 he's like you know let me come to the Oscars he's just he wants to testify yeah I'm my most Americans I want to pretend to understand what's going on and like I give a shit the thing that just angers me and it's my fail is all of these quote-unquote moderate Republicans pretending to give a good damn and be thoughtful well I don't know I need to think about witness it's like they might as well they're just such incredible whores they're like how do I pick up another 11 moderate votes by no insulting whores stop it let's get to a couple more big stories this is perfect I'm sick coronavirus in China is now spreading across the world including the United States over two dozen people in bound to have it in China at least 80 people died five cases in the US to in California one in each in Washington Illinois and Arizona the virus appears to have originated in this was your household see a whole set market in what I'm under something I'm playing house do you have a bunch of dead chickens lying around anyone never goes about bats I think anyway South Beijing Americans in one of an evacuated San Francisco this is so much news residents of the province where and who on is located in bar from Hong Kong go further notice China the most crackdown country cannot crack down on this as happens with these viruses because people move around as band wildlife trade nationwide until the epidemic passes the ordeal is re-invigorated skepticism Chinese meat markets where this and as far as expected originated to Hong Kong's biggest attraction the Disneyland in Ocean Park or close I have been to Ocean Park Scott that's a lot of park oh no it's just it's like a Disneyland there's wonderful my son forced me there but it's weird and interesting and the Swiss is like amusement parks it doesn't so sure doesn't swisher goes with Alex swisher likes him because I'm a good mom it was Lunar New Year over the weekend which is times because tourist season so this is just it started on we bow this this government action after we bow where people were doing this 45 million views on popular social media reject game meat that's what's going on here yeah so thoughts what what they're trying to really censor it they don't know people are dying well I generally think I mean a few things here one I think that we there's good reminders including this one that we shouldn't take for granted the government and things like the CDC and the FDI that regulation works and that we have a disregard for regulation around health and food and proximity of people to livestock you know bad things happen mainly trying to over indexes on this stuff right whenever we want to find some scary antidote or whatever it is we go to get the the flu shot we go into these regions I personally think this stuff is wildly overhyped I think it's important is public education but I think this is much more spectacle than it is historic and I hate to say that for fear that it does turn into something but almost feels if it's a you know I get it it's dangerous the CDC will do a great job public needs to be aware of it but I generally think this stuff ends up usually being usually until the one until the one it's a fair point it's a fair point my ex was working president Obama during the Ebola crisis and I remember they couldn't say anything about it but suddenly she knew a lot about about I see I'm obsessed with plagues I know all about plagues all of them right I feel like this is what's going to take down what's your favorite plague really you've got to go with that one but these things are going to take over the world in ways that I think people but what's interesting is social media does have an impact people are aware of them even if there's rumors going up and down it's it makes people aware instantly of these things but you know taking care of these things are really problematic and of course you need to have an administration US administration especially who actually has science advisers so it's we're kind of not great I'm sure he doesn't even know what's going on and I'm hoping it's just self-medicating and doing it themselves it's really interesting though because I think it's interesting if you had taken the infectious nature of Ebola with a lens of HIV effectively at the end of the world yeah the best of the most fortunate attribute about Ebola was that people were dead or very sick very soon so they were using to identify but if you had if Ebola had had say a three or five year dormancy period you just do it on everywhere because you would have known so there's yeah these things are very interesting and very you know we don't have dinner and I will talk of plagues with you well that sounds like a bucket of chicken and we watch this it's a great it's a great challenge of this world the way we move around telling others evening plagues and proximity I watched every plague movie even the one with us and all and is it is it is it though is it a species self-correcting because of overpopulation I mean there's a reason for these things they're actually supposed to play a role in the progress they do everything it's like fire yeah but still it's not the way you want to you know yes oh and we last very quick story Casey Newton had another scoop that was about a YouTube moderator story something that when I've talked about these they're being forced to sign waivers acknowledging that the job can give them PTSD so that these companies have protected these Accenture which operates the moderation site for you to distribute the document to workers four days after Casey published these they know they know they know they do they do these companies measure everything these companies what does that bother you why does that surprise you I guess because they should they should they there's gonna be let me just say there's gonna be how much they know about what the the traumatization of their moderators or the depression among teens or the addiction stuff how many people they have working on these topics is gonna come out the details of how much they know and do it anyway I think it's very legally problematic for them no matter how many things they make people sign thank you yep hundred percent agree it's it's not surprising anytime you go work in any situation the first thing that your employer is gonna do is figure out a way to cover their ass but in this case they know the impact they know the damage I think that I think this is this is something that they're aware of and they're very they're protecting themselves obviously legally which makes sense but it they have they have psychologists and they're sociologists in those companies you know I think trust on Harris gave us a little sense of that they know exactly the impact mental health stuff that you talk about yeah that they have they are very aware of what this way before we all have become of this the impact of these things and they'll say they didn't mean it and apologize and say sorry yeah well the issue is an illegal disclosure around moderators issue is why do they need moderators and why can't they have policies such that we eliminate a lot of this and or or people just can't see it I just don't why would they if they spent a fraction of money on moderation on technologies or policies to keep people off including those who threaten other public officials and maybe even I don't move to a different business model call me crazy and spend a dollar a month on these platforms but this is yeah I agree it's much it's much it's much it's built into the business so rather than hiring moderators they just need to fundamentally change the business model me incentives I'm not convinced until a big executive shows up in an orange jumpsuit nothing's gonna happen or executive hands us some documents that we need to look at that say a lot of us that's what we need it's not honest with your husband voice I know that documents there you go anyway aren't you glad to have me back you missed me didn't you I do but I always miss you yeah I was miss you because I'm a bit of a master but I sounded literally like how you doing Scott it's time for quick break we'll be right back with listener mail wins and fails and a new segment was Silicon Valley insider and author of a new and super popular very funny newsletter called pop culture Monday for support for the show comes from Odo running a business is hard enough so why make it harder with a dozen different apps that don't talk to each other introducing Odo it's the only business software you'll ever need it's an all-in-one fully integrated platform that makes your work easier CRM accounting inventory commerce and more and the best part Odo replaces multiple expensive platforms for a fraction of the cost 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what's up with the other co-working startups like industrious convene you commune breather and the wing has the we work story tainted the whole category are the subtle differences in customer segments and lease structures enough to make the co-working business work and mostly what would you do if you were leading marketing for these co-working startups run away from the fire or charge through the flames to grab market share thanks Kyle by the way last week we were sold a chair in the wing they did that before that I happen to know about that as part of an effort to narrow itself core business also I think the wing went away from those people anyway they sold part of that state to Google mentors I think the wing is thrilled about so what do you think what do you think the differences are this is an issue well the first off they don't have the same capital complexion I don't know much about the space other than I took on too much off a space and I'm now Adam Newman minus the charm in two point seven billion dollars I'm trying to use out desk also here and so I can speak to the softness of the commercial real estate market firsthand in Soho but anyways the no-tell takes a different approach no tell was doing what we work was doing and that is they go to a company and say all right here's a schedule or sliding scale flexibility do you want a one-year lease a two-year lease a three-year lease you want do you want sort of lame sort of cool ridiculously hip furnishings do you want modest tech good tech cutting-edge tech and they create almost like a buffet menu and do it all for you in charge you know a decent premium it's actually a pretty good business model and I think that their capital capital allocation strategy isn't just just ridiculously drunk so I think those things have they have much more I don't know they're likely much more viable the problem is they still have an enormously drunk competitor that's overfunded and the space has been overfunded which is going to hurt everybody but everybody is doing exactly what they should be doing and that is they're focusing on a specific niche and they're coming up from below they're saying all right the wing was different the wing had a niche right incentive very strong signal about what it what it was we work strategy which is to basically overwhelm the market with capital and drive down returns and just make a bunch of spray and pray there you go so I think that I'm hopeful for the other guys we work you know you always want to think everyone's all evil that's not true we were did evolve the co-working space there are a lot of entrepreneurs want to get out of the house they want you know it's a product we never thought the product is good you're taking many ways when I was there but the wing I think is different I do want to I'm thinking of actually joining me paying money if I use it a lot I don't you know I don't know it's called being a consumer care in any case what do you think and I think there's going to be smallish businesses that's what I think smallish local maybe a couple things in the value be valued at point one to one times revenues and the VCs and the founders are going to have to wake up from the consensual hallucination that these were tech companies that weren't a tech valuations they're interesting real estate most real estate companies are built over decades take slow thoughtful property by property decisions great management there's a lot of friction in the business but the thing about real estate is there's a lot of friction on the way up but there's a lot of friction on the way down and that is the wealthiest people in America come from two cohorts you're the entrepreneurs are they on real estate and real estate just a cash flow of the passive income I was say to kids the best the way to know you're rich is that passive income greater than your burn and one of the ways that really wealthy families create passive income for future generations is quite friendly the real estate ownership so these are businesses that are more like iconic dynasty businesses to thought they could scale it up and get a weird valuation that's not gonna happen but I'm hopeful for the other guys we'll see you know the way has daycare there it's really nice what equinoxes just opened up a working place and everyone decided to kind of jump in it's you know it's what they have the differentiates I'm like again like the daycare I'll go to the daycare focus niche focus on something in any case we'll see how it continues to you know it'll be interesting how they clean up the we work situation I mean I don't think it's not gonna be there just you're right I don't think it's gonna be it's not you know the reality is not that interesting it's interesting oh by the way I'm plugging I'm doing a listening party tonight the Wondery I don't know we call it miniseries on we work is coming out tonight which which the dog plays a central role of course that's right that's right and by the way these listening parties care yeah you put on iPads at the Soho house you know it's very pretentious speaking of clubs yeah and you put on I patches or I things and you just listen for the full experience oh no really a room it's not cool you didn't mention one did you in this whole thing just a grab it whole thing didn't you oh no I have a shirt that says it's her it's all I owe everything to this one I've taken enough companies yeah 40 30 years working my ass off and you discover me overnight thanks very much whatever thanks very much what just to make us an honest is the reason I'm here anyway wins and fails would you like to start I can start just giant base house party in DC that was attended by everyone from Ivanka that was a win that's why I don't know here's a fail I was not invited to Jeff Bezos giant house party thank you well why does anybody care and I don't what's the problem with that I believe in the right of reassembly before he goes on he built a beautiful beautiful house I think it was like an old museum I care but it's huge it's near my exes house it's in calorie and it's not Ivanka Trump could have walked she lives nearby but this is the thing I don't get and it's stuck out to me yeah 11 bedrooms 25 bathrooms does he have an abnormally small pro-sator bladder what's going on here he's it's really need to pee every seven steps he's like all right to start the world avoid taxes I gotta be I mean there's 25 bathrooms if you just property is huge if you walk by it I walk the dog's by it I didn't make the museum or something it's nice when billionaires buy public institutions and museums I think that shows the progress of our society it's for inter this for exactly this party that's what's for first Washington presents the watch and post will probably do things there he will never live there maybe he'll be stay there it's a hotel is it's huge it's huge it's huge rather it's not a big and they've been Jamie Diamond was there I am you know I thought of this and going to Jamie Diamond was a lot of controversy he made $33 million last year and what struck me is he advised he was I think he's pretty much the personal banker and advisor to Adam Newman including creating a stocking horse of a debt rescue package which he was paid a $50 million dollar fee regardless of whether it was a success or not he made $33 million so it struck me that any guy who is the top the top advisor to a guy who managed to get $2.7 billion commission in exchange for losing 17 who makes $33 million is underpaid so Jamie Diamond and I do as a underpaid executive in America right now I know but whatever all right things at home how big is a garage Cara a garage a big house all right it's a big house what's your win and fails sir oh my win okay so my win and this is a bit you need to give me some running room here here we go everyone's going to be talking about that right at some point this a decade but go ahead here we go everyone's gonna be talking about the loss of sport because of Kobe Bryant but the academic world and specifically the world of strategy lost an icon oh this is last week Clayton Christensen professor Christensen road scholars spent two years in South Korea on mission and pioneered this notion of disruptive innovation and up until that point innovation was seen as one largely the domain of big companies that had a capital to invest and two were a function of big macro factors you know the steam engine coming along or the processor and he he coined the term disruptive innovation and that was the notion that one it wasn't macro that companies actually could make decisions that were the driving factors in creating innovation or and or that disruption was a function of how poor the incumbents were and I talk about this a lot and that is the innovators dilemma which everyone says but most people understand what it means and that is companies have such a vested interest in protecting their legacy assets that they're somewhat low to innovate and then a small company comes in and even at the fringes says you know I'm not gonna go after all of e-commerce I'm not going after Sears or Walmart I'm just gonna go after books and the incumbents ignore them we're not gonna go after movies we're not gonna go after TV original scripted TV shows we're just gonna ship people cute little CDs in the mail and everybody ignores them because they're tiny and they're not a threat oh we're Luxautica we're not worried about that cute little company that sends five pairs of glasses to your home for that ridiculously cheap price of 99 bucks and they start biting at your ankle and then you wake up and they're such incredible value proposition they're so nimble they're so hungry they're so unafraid they have so few legacy assets that inhibit or hamstring their decisions you wake up and you no longer have a little poodle at your angle like a great white shark has you halfway up you know in its your torso is happily in this great white shark so he brought up this he pioneered the world of disruptive innovation and is probably the most influential I agree academic over the last 20 years everybody everybody was and although he pioneered the good internet and stuff like that the good innovator he was such a decent man and he had he had a he had a he had a an influence on me tactically or professionally and from a content standpoint in that one in business school you're not supposed to bring personal stuff it's about business and he was really one of the first academics to taxonomize life lessons in business strategy and he talked about the notion that you had to invest early and often in your relationship with your family or you would end up bankrupt as a person regardless of your success you said that he talked a lot about not judging your success by the accolades received but your ability to put yourself in a position to improve other people's lives and I started about five or seven years ago talking about the difference between success and happiness in my class in large part because Professor Christensen was really gave academics license to talk about personal values in the context of business he was a very decent man wrote an iconic book called how you measure your life did talk a lot about this but anyways this was a giant he melded business and character gone at 67 he was actually quite ill and was weird as 10 years ago he unknowingly launched my speaking career I started getting calls from his agency to come speak about innovation and I got six calls in three weeks and I'd have maybe two calls before that in a year and they said Clay's sick so they're like get that crazy guy from NYU but he got ill about eight or ten years ago he had a stroke and anyways he was just an enormously influential person a very good person not only in blended academia with lessons on personal characters so Clayton Christensen gone at 67 but just a lion of a man in a huge positive course I agree with you I'm gonna be writing my time really I'm clay indeed of course how could I not he had so much impact on all the major figures and in a good way they have they need him around right now but unfortunately got sick when right when he needs to be there to talk about these issues you know there's Tom Peters a bunch of them but he's them he's the towering influence impact I would say on tech for sure my fail I don't know what to think about that is the I'm not gonna mention a name because she's getting bobsed on Twitter why she was reporter and tweeted something about Kobe Bryant's history around this sexual assault and I think she got suspended because she put it even she got so attacked for just even mentioning it at the time it was an ill-time tweet but it was right after and you know people were morning and then people went crazy on her but she also put up emails of people who are attacking her which I think she showed other identities and stuff like that and so she was suspended at the Washington Post but this whole issue cancel culture I don't know if you know so I'm making Kelly and Bill Maher talked about this weekend was super super in the news and it's something I want to talk about next week a little bit because I think you talk about a lot I have different thoughts on it but it certainly was apparent you things you cannot say but that's like honestly when some guys are in some terrible tragedy way people do have a moment no matter what they did that they want you to do that and so it's being made into this be why people hate the media look that's not that's not really what's happening anyway I don't have the winner fail but I do want to think about this idea around cancel culture because even Bill Maher and Megan Kelly talk about it and it's like we have to talk about this issue at the same time all these people have enormous platforms and therefore when they use them they get dinged for things they do their mistakes or whatever so I'd love to chat about that next week I'm sorry I'll just I'll give you a preview I think one of the keys to happiness or an algorithm for happiness is to be rich and anonymous because there is the moment you and I don't have the same level of famous you but as I I draft off of your your cat tails get that not your cat tails I just thought of that you're famous oh my god that's good animal humor on the road so but I don't like I like most of it but there's definitely a cost definitely see people come after you you definitely see virtue virtue in going after people who are I don't want to call you know famous but and the thing the thing about typically what's happened is we've decided that people deserve a moment of we have a bias towards their best attributes when they're no longer around to defend themselves and I hope that's that's the corn we stick with and people pass away we have a tendency to talk about the positive things I would like to cancel culture with you next week yeah I gotta read up on it read up on it it's very you gotta be a pro at tweeting I have warned so many well then people I'm like you need to be a pro at this yeah but I you used to be you used to be my role model on Twitter in the sense that I love how you clap back in people's faces they say stupid thing and you'll just get back in their face I stopped responding to negative tweets and occasionally I just like them because I find it just pisses me off I don't want to think about I don't want to give them any oxygen I don't want to validate it I don't want to validate it I can't really do things like my favorite news thanks dad thanks dad thanks dad okay Scott we're gonna try something new that I know you'll like we're calling it the pop culture pickup we have my good friend Brooke Cameron on the line she's been writing a very popular weekly pop culture round up on medium all right hi Brooke hi guys can you hear me yeah oh you have a good radio voice but Cameron you do not the first time I've heard that I'm just gonna okay getting into it so so you have a pop we're looking for a co-op we're not you know Scott don't try to keep me on edge because I will cut you let me just say in any case popular week me yeah I will never do you know how insecure in this relationship I am I'm literally putting on makeup and short skirts every night for you when you come home here we are all right well Scott needs help so yeah I mean you got a lot about pop culture I mean believe it or not it sort of incorporates into everything we do and obviously the tragedy of Kobe and all of that but it also was timed with the Grammys last night everybody sort of was on edge to see how they were gonna cover it and a lot of people actually thought the Grammy should be canceled but it was hosted by Alicia Keys some background music because let me be honest with you it's been a hell of a week damn the social universe has I think anointed Alicia Keys the host of everything I think that's sort of like what 2020 is as Alicia Keys is gonna host every award show and the Grammys were really big you know Billy Eilish swept the Grammys I don't know if you guys know who last was the artist who just sweep that way all four me Helen ready Helen ready I don't even know who that is I feel though woman here oh yeah do it no the artist is somebody that I think got here that shit is money Brooke you need new culture I know seriously I guess well do you remember the song sailing Chris Rockston who I booked for my two down the top of the rock exactly he was the last person to sweep the Grammys in 1981 oh that was a good song that's an awesome one okay well you guys I know that Scott knows this because you partook in it the crazy meme that took over I mean drugs may have been a part of it but the meme that took over everybody this week was the one where you posted pictures of yourself in your Facebook and Instagram LinkedIn Tinder and Scott I saw your Tinder photo which I'm sure a lot of people would have not swiped right on because it was Jeff Bezos but that we know each other well enough that you mock me like that that's care I'm watching Jeff not you I think it was Jeff Bezos in that snazzy indeed I am desperate I am desperate for affirmation what did you think of I don't know you call that but I don't know how hard the jolly part and challenge and it's okay D.P. challenge D.P. challenge D.P. means something else to me about that D.P.C.
Dolly put it up she posted these four pictures of herself and it's actually this sort of call the action of feminism where she told men to go or whoever told people to go and find themselves a woman that could be all four of those photos that she put in one was a vixin and one was the brilliant business woman and so forth so that took over and everybody took their own take on the Dolly part and challenge including dogs so that was big so Brooke have you know what I I almost had my dog potato to one but I refrained after another meme came out this past week with the guy dude holding a sign and he was holding a sign saying your dog does not need its own instagram and I was very I felt very you know very very very hurt by that I do have one question though but is there is I'm just I just want to bring it back to it wasn't this past week but it was a couple weeks ago and it was a huge iconic moment in pop culture but do you know which celebrity released a candle that smells like her vagina now maybe I can give you a four it was between Martha Stewart or Gwyneth Paltrow or Meghan Markle or I don't know Oprah Winfrey I thought it was someone else oh my god that's an easy one it wasn't a paltrow obviously I'm there so know that well first of all I was gonna I thought it was Chrissy taking but wasn't it doesn't it wasn't it uh isn't it uh it was Gwyneth Paltrow yeah and apparently her candle smells delightful oh my god oh this is one of those moments where I just say to myself don't say anything don't say anything don't say anything I got you on your birthday Scott how's Brooke where can we find more of your work if you think wow this cool stuff's cool where do I mean follow me on medium I'm doing it on medium because they give me the opportunity to edit throughout the day and I make a lot of mistakes so I have to be able to edit it yeah it's great and watch it because they're helping me figure out my product a little bit better it's great yeah newsletters are a really interesting business maybe we'll talk about it next week Scott anyways Scott always a pleasure we'll be back here get better by the way disruptive innovation urgent care yeah the health care industry is ignoring urgent care it's cheap it's going out for small part of the market city MD in New York it was fantastic great job great job I found I did not have strep great I felt much better after going it was amazing experience we will talk about it next week too yeah I'm glad you're feeling better you should definitely do that dolly part and challenging I think it's the exact photo of me with my arms crossed and well even that's funny but you should do it part of pop culture end up on the media blog pictures and we'll be back I already did mine it's really good all right I'm gonna look at it I'm gonna look at I'm gonna do mine today okay because I'll be super late like the ice bucket challenge anyway we'll be back on Friday to talk about a lot of stuff including predictions and there are tech earnings so much to discuss you know good stuff so just a quick note the guy we had on last week to talk about racism and Hollywood what was his name Franklin Leonard yeah Franklin Leonard anyways my point was it needs to start earlier and we need to admit more people of color in film school to start to attack the problem and he immediately updated my thinking corrected me whatever you want to call him Twitter he said there's actually just as many women in film school as men so that doesn't explain it anyway I just wanted to shout out that I obviously got that wrong and I appreciate that he he corrected me with data he's coming up with code talking about data around movies and stuff like that it's gonna be really great he's a great guy you'll love him he's a really smart guy it's got that's really nice that you've said you've had something to learn you're a learning organism anyway I'm a sponge I'm a sponge remember we love your questions if you have a question about a story 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