EPISODE · Aug 8, 2024 · 38 MIN
Karrie Sullivan: Hacking the Change Curve by Adopting AI in the Workplace
from Scouting for Growth · host Sabine VdL
In this episode, Sabine talks to Karrie Sullivan, a change management expert with a keen interest in psychology and the development and leveraging of AI. Karrie talks in depth about why AI is disrupting the world of change management and the innovation it is creating, including her work with AI personality assessment. They also discuss the broader adoption of new technology and how to recognise resilience and innovation among leaders and individuals. KEY TAKEAWAYS Self-knowledge and introspection are both key components to personal development, which is essential when trying to promote change within and outside of ourselves. Whilst parts of our core personalities may be ‘fixed’, our ability as individuals to develop and evolve is dynamic; this is where we can create the change we want to see. Karrie frequently works at the intersection of small start-ups and larger enterprises to find the right people and innovation to create the best-practice framework for all. Find the 7% of people who can turn chaos into opportunity and remain resilient under pressure. There is value in trying various new technologies and then adapting them to what suits your business; not all technology will be the right fit. BEST MOMENTS ‘We’re finding pockets of results and resilience, so we and our customers, our clients can do a really good job of adoption and transformation.” “How do we help ourselves become better humans?” “We work with those result drivers who can solve problems very fast, to adopt something new, so what they’re doing is creating best practices.” “It’s actually a very small amount of people able to manage the change.” “They want to see a culture, they believe in culture, and they’re looking for other resilient mindsets to surround themselves with.” ABOUT THE GUEST Karrie Sullivan is a seasoned expert in change management and organization design, with a keen focus on leveraging AI personality assessments to drive successful transformations. With a background in large-scale transformations, Karrie has honed her skills to specifically address change management and organization design challenges. She is adept at helping organizations adopt new technologies, such as Microsoft Copilot, by hyper-targeting adoption efforts based on employees' mindsets and resilience levels. Karrie's innovative approach to hacking the change curve has significantly reduced the time it takes for organizations to become high-performing after undergoing transformation. You can discover more about Karrie's company below. https://culminatestrategy.com/ ABOUT THE HOST Sabine VanderLinden is a corporate strategist turned entrepreneur and the CEO of Alchemy Crew Ventures. She leads venture-client labs that help Fortune 500 companies adopt and scale cutting-edge technologies from global tech ventures. A builder of accelerators, investor, and co-editor of the bestseller The INSURTECH Book, Sabine is known for asking the uncomfortable questions—about AI governance, risk, and trust. On Scouting for Growth, she decodes how real growth happens—where capital, collaboration, and courage meet. If this episode sparked your thinking, follow Sabine VanderLinden on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram for more insights. And if you’re interested in sponsoring the podcast, reach out to the team at [email protected]
What this episode covers
Technology doesn’t fail transformations. Humans do—when change isn’t designed for how we actually think, feel, and adapt. In this episode of Scouting for Growth, Sabine VanderLinden sits down with Karrie Sullivan, a change management and organisational design expert operating at the cutting edge of psychology, leadership, and artificial intelligence, to explore why AI is fundamentally reshaping how organisations approach change. Karrie’s work challenges a long-held assumption: that change management is primarily about process. Instead, she argues it’s about self-awareness, mindset, and resilience—and AI is now giving us new tools to see those human dynamics more clearly than ever before. A central theme of the conversation is self-knowledge. While aspects of our core personality may be relatively stable, our capacity to evolve, adapt, and grow is highly dynamic. That adaptive space is where real transformation happens—both for individuals and organisations. Without introspection, change initiatives remain superficial. With it, they become sustainable. Karrie shares how she works at the intersection of startups and large enterprises, identifying the right people to pilot new technologies and behaviours before scaling best practices more broadly. Rather than forcing adoption across an entire organisation, her approach focuses on a critical minority: the 7% of individuals who can turn chaos into opportunity, stay resilient under pressure, and move faster than the system around them. These “result drivers” become catalysts. They experiment. They learn. They fail fast—and in doing so, they create repeatable patterns that others can follow. This is how organisations reduce the time it takes to move from disruption to high performance. AI plays a powerful role here—not as a blunt instrument, but as a precision tool. Through AI-enabled personality and mindset assessments, Karrie helps organisations hyper-target adoption efforts for technologies like Microsoft Copilot. The goal isn’t universal uptake on day one, but meaningful adoption by the right people first. The episode also delivers a healthy dose of realism. Not every new technology will be right for every business. The value lies in testing, learning, and adapting, rather than chasing tools for their own sake. Innovation isn’t about speed alone—it’s about fit. Throughout the conversation, one message is clear: the future of change management is deeply human. Leaders who succeed won’t just deploy technology—they’ll build cultures that value resilience, curiosity, and psychological safety. Listeners will walk away with practical insight into: Why self-awareness is foundational to successful transformation How AI can accelerate—not replace—human-centred change Why a small minority often drives the majority of results How to spot resilient, innovation-ready leaders Why culture beats compliance every time 🎧 If you’re leading transformation, adopting AI, or navigating constant disruption, this episode is essential listening. Because the real question isn’t how fast technology changes— it’s how well humans change with it.
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