Kate & Kathleen. Series 2, Episode 4. Stubbing your toe

In this episode we chatter on (distinctly different from nattering) about the concept of 'What did you first stub your toe on'. Kathleen doesn't know where she first heard this, but she is claiming it now! And for so many people it is such a useful way to think about where to start and how to 'plan' your ride.  We hope there will be something in this episode  for you! You can find us here  Kathleen - www.ethosequine.com Kate - www.softandsound.org