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EPISODE · Jan 12, 2026 · 38 MIN

Kathleen O’Toole and Robert Pondiscio: Combating Doom and Gloom in the Classroom

from Hillsdale College K-12 Classical Education Podcast · host Hillsdale College K-12 Classical Education Podcast

Kathleen O’Toole, associate vice president for K-12 Education at Hillsdale College, is joined by Robert Pondiscio to discuss a recent essay he wrote on how educators should emphasize resiliency and hope in the classroom. Robert Pondiscio is a senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and an affiliate of AEI’s James Q. Wilson Program in K–12 Education Studies, where he focuses on K–12 education, curriculum, teaching, school choice, and charter schooling. Learn more: https://k12.hillsdale.edu/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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