Kelly Siegel, Owner of NTM National Technology Management | The Jeff Crilley Show

I grew up in Detroit, seven mile, and Eminem famously grew up in 8 mile. Nine mile was the suburbs. I remember when he came out with eight mile, I said, Dude, that's not tough. Tough is seven mile and nobody's ever seen six mile. I'm being facetious. But another guy who shares that journey is my next guest, Kelly Siegel, owner of NTM National Technology Management.