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Hello everyone, welcome to another episode of Good Hang. I talked to the amazing kind hilarious Keenan Thompson today. And we talk about some really fun stuff. We talk about Eddie Murphy and how important he was to both of us. We talk about learning how to ice skate and how it is hard and Keenan is good at it.
We talk about how we partied really hard and how we suffered because of it. And we talk about can I wear sunglasses on the red carpet? Am I allowed? Is that cool? And the answer is no.
So we're going to talk to Keenan today, cannot wait and before we do, we always check in with somebody who knows our guest who wants to speak well behind their back, who wants to give me a question to ask them. And that person is world superstar, Maya Rudolph. Maya Rudolph joining me today from Zoom. You know, just I don't know, comedy legend, whatever, no big deal, friend of the pod. Let's see what Maya's up to.
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See app for details. Oh, you look much nicer than I do. I'm trying to dress a little bit like Keenan. Oh. Oh, what mug are you drinking out of?
It's late night with correction jackals. From late I was sad. Is your house just filled with mugs that you've gotten from various talk shows? Mine kind of is. I wonder if Johnny Carson and like Merv Griffin and Dinah Shore if they ever had mugs.
You know what I would give for one of those mugs? Right. You know what we were looking, this is really ADHD and this is gonna take us on a completely different tangent. It doesn't matter. You know what we were just looking up this morning?
Bicentennial, 31 flavors slash Baskin Robbins Bicentennial ice cream flavors. And do you know what some of them were? Wait, sir, just said that this is 1976 flavors? 1976. Okay.
For the Bicentennial, 31 flavors AKA, now known as Baskin Robbins. Or is it the other way around? I think it's the other way around now. They have more than 31. Right. Yeah.
One of them was called Valley Fudge. It's still Valley Fudge. Valley Fudge. What was another one Maya? Oh, God.
No, I gotta look it up again. One was Apple Pile Mode. Yeah, sure. That's cute. But like Gimme Valley, give me a family.
Oh, thank you. Minutemen mint. That's stupid. You know, Gen X has lived, we were alive. I was alive during the Bicentennial and here we are celebrating 250 years and boy has America never been better.
That's exactly how I feel. Yeah. I mean, when you think about how far we've come. Well, how far we've come and how much we've fixed. That should be the slogan.
We've fixed a lot. We're talking to Keenan Thompson today. And I'm so psyched that I'm talking to you because you and Keenan are linked in a lot of ways for me. Like I think some of my most fun and most tender and funniest moments are watching the two of you perform. Like you guys really have a connection.
How would you explain it? You know when you meet your people and you can't really find words for it. So you just feel like you've known the person your whole life. I always feel that when I see Keenan, I feel like he's always been there and we don't have to say anything. And it's, there's a relaxation that comes over me.
When I see him, when I watch him, it's like watching an incredible musician. You know that you're in good hands and you can't wait to see what they're going to bring you because you know it's gonna be masterful and amazing. But it's also gonna fill you with like a joy. Like it's relaxing. I feel that way about watching Prince on stage.
I'd get relaxed because I was like, you can do anything, you can do anything. Keenan, I'm instantly, instantly like warmed and already giggling a little bit. There's a twinkle in his eye that says it all. Yes, Maya, it's so true. There's a twinkle.
I have such strong memories of, you know, inviting him into our dirty, dirty office. You know, sit on the floor on his knees or something. Like, I mean, we lived like disgusting college students, Amy. Yeah. And you two, that was your perch.
Yeah, that was my perch. Bringing friends into that and giggling till four in the morning. I remember so clearly writing stuff with him. If I bring it up now, I'll probably get canceled what we were writing, but it was so fun. And all we did was laugh.
All we did was laugh like listening to songs and finding a little tiny minute things and then going in and laughing. Oh, I mean, a great example of that is one of my favorite characters and sketches in Enes and El Evers, which is T.T. and Mario. So people that didn't ever watch T.T. and Mario, how would you explain who T.T. and Mario were?
It's great. Thank you for asking me. T.T. and Mario is a duo from your childhood path that is so facing the most beautiful love zones that are so raunchy and disgusting. They think they're very loving.
Yes, they are romantic. They're very couple with children. They've been together for a very long time. And sometimes one might say that sometimes they need the music to make things fun again. And what I love about them is they always start so beautiful and so romantic.
And then maybe 10 or 15 seconds in, they start talking about each other's booty and how tight it is. Yeah, there's a lot of booty play involved. And T.T. and Mario serenaded you in the hospital. That's right.
When Archie was born. That's right. I want to talk to Keenan about it because it was so, it was like if I could have picked two, I couldn't have picked two better people when I was in a postpartum haze to be singing at me from the T.T.T. Then you guys, it's funny, I'm excited to interview Keenan because there's a lot I actually don't know about him. He's more of a...
Coyote. More of a coyote. More of a... Then he is sometimes a sharer. Do you have any questions for me today that you would like to hear Giki talk about?
I mean, we're different ages in terms of like our influences, but he was so like, well formed when we met him. Like, I want to know what he was doing. I know he was performing as a young person, but like how did that get in there? It's like, oh I know when I'm big, I'm going to be this. Like, how did those influences create the Keenan that we know?
Because I feel like it came out like this. I can't imagine him any other way. I also just want to know, like, I know you're going to ask about like how do you keep it fresh, Keenan? Totally, I mean, I'm so curious about like, what do you not go to or do anymore? I mean, after 22 years of the show.
Oh my gosh, like, you know. How have you bypassed? Yeah, how does the system work for you? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I'm curious.
I feel like he might actually be experiencing like the dream of Asinel because if you've been there long enough to be like, hey guys, I'm gonna have to go this way. Yeah. Probably the dream. I know. Like, he figured it out.
Yeah, that's he cracked the code and I wanna know what he cracked. I think there's gold behind those doors. Yeah. So like little Keenan is always what I think about and I didn't know little Keenan and I'm curious. Like, I guess I equate it to when we were little, like we would do plays in our living room and things like that.
Like was he just the guy who made his friends laugh? Was he the guy who was like, cause he's always been so steady and so funny. Yeah. And it feels like, like where does that charm come from? Okay, so I'm gonna ask Keenan about little Kiki, which we all know little Keenan is probably the cutest kid we've ever seen.
On Earth. Like hands down. And because I like knowing if that person knew that that person was gonna be the one person we know today. And I feel like it's a yes. I feel like that guy always knew.
I feel like we have a YouTube Maya. Like I feel like seeing little Maya on a home movie, like singing into a microphone. You knew that too. That's all I wanted. I just wanted a microphone and then laugh with my friends.
Yeah. Aw. And look at you guys singing together about putting whipped cream on each other's business. That's all I want for America. For them to put whipped cream on each other's business.
All we want is for Valley Fudge to make a comeback. Honestly, yeah. Don't you love this angle? I mean, I picked a great angle. My neck looks like.
You actually look great. What is it saying? Your shirt? Oh, Rory's face. Oh.
It's my favorite restaurant in the high. Maya just dropped the phone down her shirt by accident. Wap wap. Oopsie. Yeah.
Oh no. No, it fell down. My pants. Do you kids want to see what happens when my phone falls? I feel like relaxed and smiley because we're talking about Keenan.
You know what I mean? Totally. I love you. Bye, mama. Thanks.
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Woop woop woop woop woop. Listeners, Keenan brought me some. Of course. Wow. This is becoming a thing now where I'm getting thing food.
It's real. How are you doing? I'm not. I knew that would be a thing. Well, no, because I was going to say I'll put some on too if it would make you like it.
I don't have any, but I could wear some. I like it because I want to see your beauties. Of course. I just feel cool when I wear them. I do too.
Look at this. Come on. Okay. Let me explain this. Keenan brought me a slice of cheese pizza.
I think it's an artistic expression of the pizza rat. Oh, it's pizza rat. There's a rat riding a slice of it. So this is the first time I've had a fake food that moves like it anyway. This is great.
It just reflects us because I feel like we're such fun kind of like life lovers of like a good time. It just reminds me of like us as characters. Keenan, I mean, do you have to kind of just pull it back? We're pulling it back and then it goes. We'll pull it back and stronger.
Come on. When you can't break it. So long story short, I went shopping and I thought of you. I saw it and I thought of you. And I've been holding on to it before I even know I was booked on here.
No way Keenan. Just fingers crossed holding that one day I would get to come sit in the throne room. Okay. I'm going to put it in a room room. Jenna, I'm going to put this on my wall.
Oh, look at the placement. That is that's Super Bowl. That's a super bowl. That is a lot of money. Fire and island placement.
No, man, the best. Keenan Thompson is here. Hi. How are you doing? I'm great.
You're doing this on both coasts. Yeah, we get to do it in LA in New York, which is the best. You can take it to wherever you are. Yeah, and convenient for like, guessing people I'm guessing. Yeah, really can be.
Congrats on the Golden. Who gets a gold for a podcast? No one does. Exactly. That's why you're such a guy.
Exactly. That's amazing. Do you want to play a podcast, right? I did a podcast for a long time. What was it about?
It was just do black guys existing in America. You know what I mean? With love of Hollywood and stuff like that. Do you listen to podcasts? Yeah, listen to podcasts.
I listened to yours. I just caught up with the Long Island because I did a guest appearance because of the Reeba episode. And I was like, wait a minute. Let me look at how long they've been doing this. I went back to the beginning.
And it is a long ride. And God bless those guys for just showing up in their soul. Show up. Barely showing up. Barely showing up.
It's hard to get all four of them on the line. Oh, it rarely happens. And it's such a treat. Totally. It's like, I'm going to go through like such good memories.
I know. I know. I felt the same way. It was like really good to go back in time. And we have so much to talk about, Kiena, because we were on the show together for...
A lot. Like six years. Six years. Which now is the first six miles of your marathon. Yeah.
When did you depart? I left in 2008. Yeah. It was like a five year because I started in 2003. I mean, getting to work with you is some of my most favorite times.
And I want to talk to you about it today because you're so attached to so many important moments in my life. Thank you. And likewise, I talk about my sisters all the time. Like I consider y'all like, you know, it sucks to like get out of my room kind of like, but also like straighten up and don't come like playing games. That's why I was like, I was ready to take my sunglasses off.
It's not a game. It's like Kiena, I'm like your boss, your sister. Let me just analyze. You got to keep those on. I'm like, are you going to wear sunglasses on this birthday?
Yeah. You're so right. We do have a very, there is a very sisterly quality with you and a lot of the women that you performed with during my time. And then you've like, you've gone, your family dynamic at SNL has changed from like younger brother to like elder statesman. I'm like grandpa at this point.
Yeah. Hey, grandpa. Good morning. I was like, she's grandpa. I know.
Grandpa's feet. Grandpa's feet hurt. Don't tell us. This is too less for grandpa. Yeah.
Okay. I'm going to take you back in a little time machine to little Keenan because the teeny, tiniest little version of Keenan knew pretty early that he wanted to be a performer, you're one of three kids, you're the middle. Yeah, but my sister's my half sister. Okay. Got it.
Just for a technicality. I remember 14 years apart. Okay. So were you then were you the baby then? I was the baby.
I was a miraculous and fearless and just a strange like, you know, kind of ignorant confidence. If you will, you remember the very beginning. I feel like a lot of performers have this feeling like they remembered that sparkle that they got when they got like attention or looked at. Do you remember that like early time? Yeah, I mean, I talked about all the time, it was the gingerbread man, you know, like in kindergarten.
I'm like in the graduating play, but like I was a gingerbread man. You know what I mean? Like I wasn't stov. Yeah. So it wasn't awakening because in rehearsal, it was just like Yernie's Lyin's like it's got to do this thing or whatever.
But once I saw people and I recognized my mom and my mom was smiling and you know, she was happy and excited and just made me perform more and then like, you know, the audio of hearing laughter after something I said, I'm like, oh, wow, what is this? Totally. I can't really enjoy it. I'm like, the feeling of just like getting a feeling a little bit taller when you were when people were looking at you. I mean, look at this.
That was still just fishing for laughs. Kind of like, it feels so good. It's so embarrassing. I know. God bless.
It's so true because and I read that you were you were a todo and I guess what I'm saying, I got really hooked on trying to do something that that games laughter. I just wanted to put those away because they were OCD Amy a little bit. First of all, these glasses are gorgeous. Thank you. They're a goochy glasses.
And I get it now. I get it what you mean about being able to talk behind the sunglasses. Yeah. Do you think I could pull off and we'll get to your life? I contact isn't tense.
I contact is intense. And you can pull off anything. No, but you can pull off sunglasses on the red carpet, right? That's cool as shit. I have made it a thing to where like, I'm just fine with if they're mad about it or not because I feel like Jack was the coolest and he never took sunglasses off and I'm like, that means you don't have to.
But when it looked like I just recently had eye surgery. Only in the beginning. Right. And once it's a thing, it's just like, oh, that's her artistic expression or whatever kind of like excuse you can get away with. You're so right.
Okay. Wizard. I just want to get back to Toto for a second. You play Toto. I play Toto because all the parts were taken and I was like, well, nobody's going to be a dog and this is a church play on South Carolina.
I'm sure we didn't have many like terriers to choose from. So I was like, I'll do the dog. Like why not? I just wanted to be down. There's a lot of people I've talked to that have been in the Wizard of Oz and different ways.
What did you bring to the role? Well, this was the Wiz. Oh, excuse. It was fantastic. Yes, the music and everything.
And I brought tenderness to the role when Dorothy needed it. I remember like cuddling up to her and like the whole church being in it, you know, just a small like maybe like 100 people who made something like that. And to feel all of them acknowledged my performance in that way was like, yes, it did. You know, and like there's a moment where everybody like runs to the back of the church when the scene is over to set for the next scene. And like I've been crawling around on all four so they left me and I was just like, oh snap.
Like they're all calling me and I stood up as a dog and ran and that got to laugh. She was just like fucking swinging on that one. I don't mean to be like jumping like comparing your story to mine, but I had a similar experience. I was Dorothy. We had a real dog.
Yeah. And there's a moment in the scene where Dorothy's supposed to have a tornado. Like the tornado was supposed to go to to where are you? But I was holding the dog. I was like, this is we didn't go over this part.
So I put the dog down, walked a few feet away and I said, to to to to where are you big laugh. Huge laugh because everybody watched due process that and you stuck with it and committed to like continuing the work. I mean improv is the greatest coolest thing I wish I would have gone to one of the school school. So you feel like from that air from that like style and family. And did you know any actors growing up?
No, it was such a distant dream. The best I would have thought would be like a commercial, like a national like a public's, you know, when I was starting a book that was in the beginning, you know, sonic, like whatever. Kind of like I thought that was kind of the, you know, the mountain I would be on. And was it your mom that was taking you those mostly? Yeah.
And she was just like, yeah. My mom so dedicated. She got a job at the Alliance Theater School. So I could take classes. So you got like a side gig there like as a like answering the phone or like some kind of like office assistant, you know, like a take classes at a discount or whatever it was like the acting thing I just I just loved it.
You loved it. I mean, the theme I feel like of today's talk and you, Keenan, is like you feel like everywhere you arrive, like is the like timing is so important in your life career and in the way you perform. I think you have the best timing of anyone I've ever worked with. Your timing is incredible. The way you know how to play moments and the way you know how to play life because life is its own game.
You have to figure out how to play. Yeah. And I'm just in awe of your timing. Oh man. And so I guess I'm the second one to start crying.
Shout out to Seth. Okay. Oh my God, Seth. So easy to get that back. But so like but but because of that I look at your life and your career, which is still we're in the middle of it.
We're not like and the way in which wherever you are was where you were supposed to be at the time and weirdly enough, it's always felt that way. You know what I mean? Like I've never been like overly person like that's not audition was extreme. But like on the way to that for some reason everything felt done already. Like I already have this job like already have made my friends, you know, or even like met all that cast.
I was just like, I feel like this is mine to do kind of thing. Yes. Yes. It was like that's exactly right, Keenan. It's like it feels like every opportunity for you felt like you were meeting the opportunity when it was meeting you.
And when you were, I mean, you were you were on TV when you were what 11 12 doing like movie reviews. That was like a real job. Yeah. Like when I first like was dipping my toe in the water, we were like kids going along with the news anchor to this new like exhibit at the zoo. Like it was like about dinosaurs and like a little mini special about that.
Like that was like the beginning. So I was like, this is just playtime. We could be in a zoo after hours. Kind of like that's cool. Right.
But like real news for kids, I was like, oh, I'm like I need that. Like to like to have it to have that so young. And just pointed me confidently in the direction of like this is kind of what I feel like I should be doing. And then all kinds of kids stuff started happening. Like my first review was the first Mighty Ducks movie.
No way. Like almost a year to the day I got to audition for the second one and ended up like making it in. And then the director knew the producers from the Nickelodeon shows and they like connected me to that. So that audition I was real cocky. Hey, guys.
Hey, old friends. You needed your making? I got you. It's interesting because you look young. You still look young.
Thank you. Isn't it nice to now. It's a nice is where we're supposed to be saying. I don't know. I don't know about that.
I mean, with sunglasses on. With glasses on. With glasses. With glasses. I mean, what do you mean by wear those glasses?
I can't even wear them. And a boot. And when do I wear them? Yeah. And like a wrist like one of those.
And I went there should fall down on the beach. And have my face is unburned. But you had a baby face but you definitely had a poise of someone much older than you. Like I'm curious if you've always felt your age. I mean, a lot of kids who are acting at a young age especially like making money for their family and being around adults most of the time.
But you had the kind of pleasure and privilege of working on a show with a bunch of other kids. So you were with people your own age pretty much. Yes. Do you feel older or younger than your age? Like what is your son like?
I've always felt like an old man. I feel like I came right from something that happened in the 70s and I stayed kind of like connected to the 70s and I don't want to like it's my favorite era. And like yeah, I feel like tourist energy just capitalizes on that. And I'm very relaxed and just chill and like don't want to be that not too loud. Please everybody just everybody settle down.
Please like I can't handle it. Do you feel like you're like now talk me in restaurants and it's just love but when I shout my name I'm like please. Yeah, you don't like that. I know that about you. And your influences were like that too.
Like Richard and Prussia Pryor and Murphy. Just the black zaggyst basically of that era and then onward and then of course as I got older looking backwards and learning your history concept. But I love like, you know, the black exploitation era and like diving back into those sounds and those words and like having fun with it. It's like you know, playing in your dad's clothes basically. Yes.
Did you guys watch as a family like stuff together? Were you a laughing family? Like we were comedy family? My dad is the Joker for sure. Really?
Like he's the joke teller and he does really well. He's like a room pleaser when he does that. Like I remember like at my grandmother's house he would have my grandma like almost like peeing or pants like really and this is my mom's mom. You know what I mean? So we really do a dance.
Is he a frustrated performer? He's a gym and I so I think he does a lot of things well. Yeah. Interesting. He's like he drove like NASCAR kind of cars.
He's in the military. He's a mechanic. Yeah. You know, amazing. Like real estate person like you know made history in Atlanta for kind of desecrating like listings and stuff like that.
Really? Yeah. So like he's a very cool dude and on top of that yeah loves to tell a joke and then my mom has this like secretive kind of sense of humor like a little prissy because she's like the older, she's the oldest of seven you know and they come from kind of it's actually called Forest Virginia so you can imagine there's lots of trees there and not a whole lot of bills. So she comes from literally the forest and like kind of had to be a little more like suited and booted but yes she has this like sneaky little laugh where she's like oh you like to laugh at the naughty. Look at you being naughty kind of a.
So for me I have a little bit of both but I'm not really like a room gatherer. Unless it's like a fixed performance. No you're not like you're not looking to win the room. Yeah. No.
I mean I would say that my experience with you is that you are a little bit more of a three point shooter like you wait for your time and you like to observe you like to see how people are playing. Yeah I like to just have career a little bit and like it's time to turn it on just like take over the game and you shoot it and you shoot it you do like a no look on your way out. Oh yeah like I know that's going in. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's definitely good. It's good and it's rare to have like a career before you reach SNL.
Yes. Like and not always helpful. No. It had gone well I don't think for anyone at that point I was like I just want to do whatever because this writing thing freaks me out so you guys tell me what you want and it took five years before I wrote something that was like my idea. On show.
You know. Scared straight was like the first thing that actually made it on the show. Well you know we talked about Eddie Murphy and I want to talk about what it was like to do that sketch at the 50th but what's your early memories of Eddie Murphy because for me I'm older than you but not by much but enough that when I was watching SNL when I started watching SNL it was Eddie's year she was 18 19 when you remember me when seeing him. That was kind of me watching from down the hall when I wasn't supposed to still be awake. Yeah right right right.
You know what I mean and I remember hearing hot tub before I actually was able to watch it. Right. I just remember being in PJ's you know. And like watching my dad just like laugh. I think he was still like my mom was asleep.
He was just like the only person out. How dark can you just see like blue flashing in the glow and like yeah. Isn't it funny your memories as a little kid of like when your parents would laugh really hard at something you would look at them like what happened what's funny and just imprints on your brain immediately then forever what you think is funny. It was always fun getting to a place where like we could share laughter together in the same sort of sense of humor like with my dad. Like once we started like quoting coming to America to each other like certain moments it was just such a dynamically fun time because it was like our little thing you know like we play pool we quote coming to America you know what I mean and it's like a dad and two brothers basically really cool.
It's kind of like you're when you're saying like that's reminding me like for some families comedy is sports. Like that's how you connect is you talk about what you think it's funny and like and I know that you love Eddie I know that you love it you're prior and you also love Chris Farley who you got to work with. I tell us about that. And Jim Carrey like super duper fan of Jim Carrey and I emulate him I think more probably than anybody as far as like micro performing goes like I feel like he performs every possible like syllable kind of thing in his physical body. It's wild to watch.
Farley is just a full buffalo you know what I mean and like he was just so dynamically funny not just falling down funny like he had some quips that were incredible. And sometimes his performances were just like he's the only one that can do that kind of thing. So he came to all that and did that like it was the greatest day I've ever seen because I was like that's a true pro that's somebody that doesn't they would tell us and rehearse us a lot because we were kids kind of thing. He came in and didn't need any instruction at all. He was playing a ketchup chef that likes to put ketchup on everything and of course my character likes to put chocolate on everything so it was a battle.
And they had this eight layer chocolate cake because we were celebrating something or whatever and you know Nickelodeon likes to make a mess but they like to shoot up until right before the mess and stop and like do that part a few times to make sure they got it right and they really politely asked him like please and you know take one after we got and we got to that point destroyed that take like it was nothing like I think on purpose because they tried to tell him to do something and he like beat the cake up to where there was like there's no way we're doing a second take it is jumping the car and jumping limousine was gone. Like they have showers like we got showers really loud. I'm fouled off a little bit still catch up in his hand and was out of there.
And I was like now that's a gangster that's a professional gangster and so I'm funny and so nice so nice never front on me for being a kid or anything just came in and like let's get to it kind of thing. You know I think I'm sure every young person feels this way they remember the people that like treated them like peers when they were feeling when they were and they remember the people that were dismissive of them. Because we really do act especially with young people like they don't know what they're talking about or like we're always doing that to them. And like I have a problem with like people's boundaries like I learned hard lessons with that because I'm just very like outgoing and kind of like we're fine with this right.
You're fine if I just keep tapping you on the shoulder like you know me kind of thing and some people put you in your place and you're like hey man step tapping me. I was like I'm sorry I crossed that line. TC like Magnum P.I. TC I was so excited to be next to him you know I mean like that's the Nickelodeon day to put us you know in proximity to a lot of very famous people kind of thing. I was just overly excited I'm like then this great my man look at this this is an awesome thing man.
Stop tapping me. I was like oh my god I'm over tapped TC. But you're talking about it just like straight up like etiquette on set that a lot of people when they arrive at SNL not only have not ever been like on TV but often have never been on any kind of set and there is an etiquette to your point how you approach people how you like how to be a professional. And like I Keenan you are such a professional in a way you approach your work and the way you deal with people you're really really smart and you have a lot of experience and you could feel it immediately when you arrived at SNL but when you think back on those early like days of learning about what it was like to be on a set what was like the things that you learned what were some like takeaways you still think about like what you try to bring to other sets.
TC first thank you for all of that. Second free stuff was the first thing I noticed. I'm in the right spot. I knew it. I knew it the price was right we're doing it.
I knew everybody was doing some birds and that whether snacks or drinks or whatever whatever I'd like I need to ask for if you like little Wendy's will bacon cheeseburger meal can I get that? Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. Take your wallet out.
Fantastic. I'll do whatever. We'll be here in 19 hours. You know how many more you want to jump in the lake? Am I supposed to jump in the lake?
Whatever. Yeah. And that was definitely like a check check that box but also the size of things like when I got on the Mighty Ducks and saw like a movie set all these trailers and like so many clothes for everyone I'm like what are these clothes for? Like all the different things in the movie got to wear different clothes. Different clothes.
That's crazy. It's a lot of pressure. Super pressure. I don't know how to skate. Okay let's talk about Mighty Ducks because you are one of my friends that skate the best.
Thank you. You're an incredible ice skater. A lot of people don't know this. Thank you and I pride myself with that because it's not like a big known thing amongst the black community or just ice skate like that. There's only certain people that do it.
There's only certain couple of people in you know in the NHL or whatever kind of thing. You know New Yorkers were people in cold climates kind of doing around Christmas time kind of thing just you know kind of like going bowling if you will. I remember. It's a good area in these wild. You get good at it.
It's hard and I have a very clear memory. They used to let us at Christmas shows at SNL. They don't do that anymore. I'm done. It was so long.
I do it. They used to let us I mean talk about free stuff. Talk about perks is on the Christmas show would be like good night and then they cut to like maybe a bumper and we'd all get to run downstairs. What would we do? They'd be like a golf cart all of a sudden inside the hallways sometimes like for people to just like zip down there.
Some people would be down there already. Right. What if you're in that final thing kind of thing and then we would wave the night to the ice. And then the rockets on the ice. Underneath the Christmas tree.
Yeah. Rock and fellers then. And I'm thinking. Yeah. And I go down there and I see Keenan and Keenan is you are getting forward skating backwards.
Scating back. Scating back. I was doing everything. 25 million tricks. Thank you.
And I was like. I was fresh off learning it. Yeah. Yeah. So how hard was it to learn for you?
Very, because I remember like I was just talking about this the other day like roller skating and going to like roller skating rink is where we had Atlanta. Yeah. Like I was busted my ass constantly. You don't know me as a kid but you don't feel anything as a kid. You know, I just feel the knots later kind of thing but I remember like both feet up falling all the time.
You know, like all the time. Yeah. on my resume under special skills. I could roll a skate or something like roller skating. You know, but like I never in a million years considered how I wanted to learn, but after that first day of hockey camp, which was on my birthday, my 15th birthday, I wanted to quit it all.
I was like, I want to be an actor. I want to be an actor. This is what it's about. And I think I'm a mom and let me quit. She was like, no, go back tomorrow.
Can't go back and back and like eight weeks on both movies. Do you learn how to skate? Yeah, do you skate? Do you find ways to skate now? Do you look for it?
Yeah, great skating with the family. You know what I mean? Christmas time. That's awesome. They both are good little skaters.
Yeah, I mean, I watched the figure skating. Yeah, I watched the girl with the three tiered, you know, kind of hair do. Yeah, Alyssa Liu. Is that it? Yes.
I know she's from Oakland area. Yeah, how was that? Unbelievable. Just because of how casual she is. Yes.
And like she's just chilling. But like the things she can do on the ice, bro, is that I give her all the middle. Like it was a pile to watch. Well, she hadn't hockey. I guess I watched it.
She reminds me of when you perform because she was very relaxed. And you get in like when we're watching her, like she's good. She's good. Like nerves? Nerves are like, if you can figure out how to channel your nerves.
Oh, man. So what were your nerves like when you were auditioning for us on your 23, which is still really, I mean, in the context of the show, I guess it's not so young, which is so young. When I watch your audition on SNL, there's a small moment that is, Samberg did it too in the audition, where you take a moment before you start and you go, oh, my God, SNL. You said it like to yourself. Yeah.
And Samberg had a similar moment where he was just like, you could tell he was like, but it was very inviting. It was not like this person is like, cannot handle their nerves. It was, it felt like what you do so well, which is you like zapped yourself to the present moment. You're like, here I am. Yeah.
And it's like, I have to call it out because if I don't, it'll be like it didn't happen kind of thing. So I have to like put it in the words that like, I recognize that this is crazy. It feels like also just a way to secretly kind of quiet your nerves, like just to be say it. Signally putting that seat belt on. Like, you're like remembering in Fight Club when he's just like, you know what, I'm just gonna get crazy with this and let this day and we'll go, we're just gonna let it go.
And I just like, let my mind just start rambling. It's so mildish and so rambling. It's crazy. I mean, it's not, and I think I've told you the story, but I watched your audition from a, we were filming Mean Girls. Can I tell you this story?
I've told you this story. And Lauren had the auditions, he was watching them on the plane, private. Private, PJ. You know somebody that got money. I forgot money.
And probably the first time I had ever flown private, I don't even remember, I remember. And it was during Mean Girls and we must have been flying back from the set, because Tina was there. And Lauren was there and Lindsay Lillian was there. Incredible. And we watched your audition.
That's crazy. And we were like, he's incredible. And Lindsay was like, I love him. And I remember. And I think at the time, you probably already had the job, but it was, the one thing I remember more than the content, which you realize very fast, nobody cares about the content.
Like you think the content, the jokes, everything is so important. You can have the best written material in the fucking world. You get the best jokes in the world. If people don't feel like relaxed, happy to see you, drawn to you for whatever reason, it just doesn't work. It's like, it's this crazy chemistry thing.
The craziest part of casting. Like casting is such a, like shout out to, you know, casting people that like do it well. Because it takes a whole lot of like, thanks for coming in, but you know, we'll get back to you and like being able to, they're like nurses. You know, just giving it up. You know, we'll be through the awful news.
We're gonna give you a shot. It's gonna hurt. Or like, let's try that again. And this time, do everything different. Oh, I mean, yeah, they're like, maybe it's time to try to be like a normal person in the world.
Like what a normal person would be. Yeah, let's go know. And then you do it and you still like, didn't like check it out. Did you have fun? Yeah.
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Like I became a friendly useful tool, if you will. So all kinds of people would write for me because I was able to deliver. Nobody gave us this rule, and I'm sure you now tell people this. But if I could go back and tell people one thing, it would be try to do as well as you can in anything you're given. That simple thing gets people to just, because everyone's nervous.
Give me one word or half a line. I love it. Yeah. What have you changed about how you interact with the job, that how you've made the system work for you? Yeah, I don't let it just keep me out anymore.
It used to keep us out. Well, Keenan and I have seen some of my favorite stories ever. Let's do it in that bid. Let's tell this story. I totally...
Let's take a drink. Okay, so I'll start at Keenan and I. Okay. This was a different time. Before we had children.
This was a different time before we had children. So we would go out a lot, Keenan and I, and all of us would party a lot. Yeah, we would hang out. It's New York very excited about being in New York. And so there was a night of many nights, but there was a particular night where I was out too late.
Yes, this is before I understood the schedule. Two. I was just hanging out. I knew that while I was still out there. And we were at a place called Bunkalo 8.
Fantastic. Shout out to... Shout out to Rashida. Shout out to Rashida. Look, Rashida Jones turned always my beautiful wife turned me on to so many aspects of life.
Literally the greatest. And she'd be like, hey, I'm hosting this club thing and I'd be like, oh my God, what time? One a.m. sounds great. I mean, what the fuck?
We're there. And it doesn't close like the other places? Like it can kind of just open the door later. Yeah, it's open and then when you walk in, it's like, oh, you know... When Amazon rain for us and it's time to listen to the music and drinks.
And like T.I. is here. Yeah, lots of people. Yeah, lots of people. So we went to Bunkalo 8 and I was there and all of a sudden guess who comes in later than me is Keenan.
Keenan comes strolling in. Strolling. I probably had a 6 a.m. Maybe a little bit later because ladies have a lot of... It was first a morning.
Two or three hours later to play... The back of piece. And I had to get in full spray tanness for a little... I had a whole lot of wiggages to be when I was heavy as dreads. Heavy dreads.
And it was... The host was John Heater who did not say that that night. No. He was ready. Yeah, he didn't have an issue at all.
But he didn't like Mormon, I mean? He's Mormon, so he just chilled. Yeah, he chilled. He was a responsible person. And he chilled and he didn't even have caffeine.
That's how he did it. No, and back then, those shoots used to be 10,000 miles away. I had not slept. You had not slept. Who else was in it?
I was like 14. I just remember Forte laying on a very hard floor. We were so hungover. Fast down. And could not move or talk.
And literally, they stopped traffic in the middle of a New Jersey highway. Yeah, for us to pretend to be the black eyed piece. And rolling. It was like ten, nine a.m. Like rush hour.
And people were just like... No, no, no, no, no. You had to be working with my heart. And we had to dance. And Keena was doing a bit that I will never forget, which is he was taking phone calls from his past self.
Pretending to tell him to go home. Yes. Like, you are being unkind to yourself, sir. Keena, this is Keena. You got to go home.
Yeah, what are you doing there? You know, you know you have to get up early. It's not good. Put it down. When you started, you mentioned this earlier.
You were, you and Joe were... What are your memories of being, if you and Joe's sharing an office? It was the best because we were so dynamically different, in my opinion. You know, like him coming from like Harvard and Staten Island and like me coming from like the South side of Atlanta kind of thing. And like, I didn't finish.
I went to Santa Monica City College. You know, so I didn't even really get too far down to like college colleges like Sharpness Road. You know, so like I was still like high school educated in my opinion. I learned a lot from me. We shared an office for eight years.
Yeah. Other offices would open up, but like we enjoyed that office so much. And like I think being so much and scared straight was born from that. Yeah. Talk about full circle, Keena.
Like you see your fan of Eddie. You write scared straight. Forget about Colin. And then you do with him at the 50th. Shout out to those guys.
Like shout out to people that are like like Colin and Che are both like that. And I shout out Che out so much because a lot of my favorite stuff that is like very silly and black and really, really smart, you know, is coming from him sharply. Like black, she and pretty and stuff like that. Yeah. And when you and Eddie did it for the 50th.
What do you remember? But what was the little special Twinkly Magic moment? And when you did that, what did it feel like? So at the 40th was the night before was the first time I met Eddie. You know what I mean?
He just came to that like toast to Lauren in the rainbow room. So everything was like very New York magical because he's like in the sky and he emerged from a separate elevator from everybody else. And I'm like, of course, he has his, you know, specific way. And like I was like, that's really cool. I couldn't contain myself.
And he recognized, you know what I mean? He was like, Hey, man, like, I was like, Oh my God, this is amazing. So fast forward to the 50th. Colin suggested we do a scared straight and put him in it. You know, he had hosted, which was the greatest show ever when, you know, he hosted for Christmas time and then back to Jay put me in that monologue with him, Chris Rock Tracy and Dave Chappelle, like one epic picture.
I'll keep it forever. So at the 50th, they're talking about doing it scared. I'm like, I wasn't even planning on, I didn't know what to do because everything was so last minute. You know what I mean? Yeah.
So I just heard that they wanted to do this. And I'm like, I don't want to do this. I couldn't believe it. Like Eddie and the goat will Ferrell like bro. Like well, Ferrell is the greatest cast member we've had ever, I think in many people's opinion.
Yeah. So for them to be in my little baby sketch was unreal. That's so cool. Yeah. Yeah.
I felt like you were a peer and a fan at the same time with them. You are a peer to them. Thank you. You realizing that moment was special is kind of like going back to our theme, which is you were really present in the moment. And the other thing I'm just going to say about you, Keenan.
I just eat too much humble pie to not feel like a little kid looking at his hero kind of thing. Well, that's what I mean is, you know, okay, do you ever watch the show alone? I talk about it all the time right here, but it's a, okay, alone is a, is a, it's kind of like an adventure reality show. It's about people who are dropped off in the wilderness and they have to survive by themselves and whoever stays the longest alone and they have to hunt and fish and gather and all this stuff. Yeah.
But what you realize is the people that last the longest are not the ones that celebrate the hardest and they're not the ones that take the losses so personally. They stay somewhat relatively even. Yeah. You bag a moose week one. You're not going to bag it every week.
Right. You, your shelter falls down. It doesn't mean because you're a jerk and bad things happen to you. Like you don't internalize and I get that from you. You ride those highs and lows.
Do you think that that's true about yourself? Yeah. And it's always been that way. Yeah. And I think I kind of focus on that a little bit, you know what I mean, just to make sure that I don't allow things to just carry me away.
You know what I mean? Like there's so much to be emotional about outside of the business. Like the world is in like full chaos and has been my whole life. I feel like there's always been some sort of representation of a bad guy, if you will, or bad, you know, situation kind of stuff. Yeah.
And then the more you learn about the world is like, how dare I even be bothered or upset about, you know, such minuscule things as a mis-accomplishment in my career kind of thing, you know? So I've always kind of just been like, cool. Like if something great happens, great, something bad happens. It's like, all right, pick up the pieces and like, let's keep pushing kind of thing because you can dwell on it if you want and let it like suck you down to the world pool and stuff like that. But then where would we be and where would all the people that depend on me be kind of thing if I allow the darkness to creep in.
But it's like a life lesson of like, can you be satisfied? Like the life lesson of can you be satisfied? Yeah. Is it really, you know, that you're learning? I can easily be.
Yeah. Yeah. I know the things I like and I'm happy when they're around. When you speak about, I let you know what you like. I feel like you love working with Maya.
She's the greatest. And she loves working with you. Maya is such, I never met such a dynamic force of nature. You know what I mean? Just in pedigree and talent and you know, the kind of person she is, the kindness she is, like she's very maternal.
You are as well. Like all four of my like original, Dratch and Tina, like my four horseman, horse lady sisters are giant forces of nature, you know, and it started with Maya and like I'm deeply indebted to her for kind of pulling me out of the fog of Tuesday night and getting something done in my first week and constantly kind of being that source of just funny combo or wonderful performer to perform things with. I mean, you guys are like instant family. Like you were a family in another life. You immediately met each other and you were like, oh, yeah, you play the same way I play.
Yeah. And also just I'm obsessed with songbirds, you know, I mean, it's an amazing talent to sit next to and just listen to her just take off on some sort of like musical number or something like while she's just sitting there and it's like, do y'all hear this? Like, she's amazing. I always said, as you mean better than most of the professional singers. Oh, 100%.
And you too, Keenan. I try. But like, man, what a cool thing to kind of like being close to kind of thing. And like, I just, I love it. So the same with like, you know, even up to the current cast and like everyone in between.
And I just love our family so much that I like being close to it. And like, it's just, I'm not afraid of how it would be when I leave. It's just, I would much rather just stay. You know what I mean? Like, why not?
He was writing this brew book. Yeah, exactly right. You know what I mean? Like, I'm up to 23 years. I know possibly starting 24 or whatever.
Possibly, you know, like it's happening. I mean, yeah, I know you're exactly right. What are the rules? And so we do this thing in the show where we talk to somebody. We got a question.
So we talk to Maya. Oh my God. How wonderful. What does she say? I love her too.
And we laugh so hard at how dumb and how fun the stupid shit you guys have done. It's the best. It's the best. And we talked about TT and Mario, which you know is my favorite. It was just a couple that is.
But your hands are roller skates and flip you upside down and then we'll you into the kitchen. Put whipped cream on your business. I want you to know I was singing that out of the way here. Put whipped cream on your business. What a gorgeous lyric.
God bless censorship. If it wasn't for censorship, the wordplay would be so much fun. Sometimes the guardrails make it way funnier and you can't say anything dirty so you have to say put whipped cream on your business. And also I just want to say thank you again. I know I thank you many times in my life, but you and Maya did one of the most tender, wonderful, funny and beautiful things for me in my life that when I rushed from set to have my kid and my first son Archie and he was in my arms and I was watching the show that the day before I was rehearsing, which talk about feeling like you're in a crazy alternate reality.
You guys sang to me from update you and Maya and with the TT and Mario flair, but not as filthy as the children present. Of course. Yeah. I couldn't have chosen two better people to have that feeling from and it was so, it was such a wonderful view from my really treasure. I'm so glad because it felt that way in the moment and I was still so young.
You know, I was just honored to be asked to be a part of a, like this is such a moment for you're like a brand new mom and we watched you be pregnant the whole time and we thought you were going to troop out the show. Like it was a super. I love the plan. You know what I mean? So it was like showing up on Saturday and just like hearing the news like everyone be with us.
There was like all hands on deck kind of energy because you're such a pivotal part of the show. And being there was just like, there's such a gap. We have to acknowledge this in some sort of way. And yet to be asked to do it was like, this is cool. Like this is what makes this place, you know, an epic kind of place.
And I felt very grateful to be involved in any sort of like moment like that, you know, it's a very special man. Maya's question to you was, it was basically more of like a statement which is you're fully formed. Little Keenan felt like he kind of came out fully formed and I think a little Maya too, the same thing. I think you guys saw that in each other. And I think her question was really like, do you think that's true?
And I do think we kind of talked about like, do you think you knew from the very earliest age what you wanted to do? And some sort of some sort of way and definitely in that direction, you know, I mean, of like, I don't know, sports is gonna be like, I'm like, I enjoy playing sports, but I didn't think I was gonna be Bo Jackson, you know. Yeah. So like, yeah, I think I had an affinity towards my path kind of and I always felt like it had already been carved in some sort of way. Yeah.
You know, I mean, like it was just, you know, big destiny, believe it could have something to do with like faith and growing up in church and stuff like that. But it just felt that way. And I kept getting reminded of those things when those kids and me, kind of things would happen along the way. Yeah. I think I should just give over to the universe and just stay positive and stay ready.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, um, what's where are you going? I'm just going to my daughter's little like summer play. Oh God.
You're going to your daughter's play. Literally across the street. Okay. But what time is the play? We're allowing the parents and at 135.
Oh my God. We have to get you out of here. Okay. So we can, it's 130. Yeah.
So let's go back to the tag. I got to ask you one question. I'm gonna put your glasses on. Yeah, please. What are you listening to right now?
Yeah. What are you, what's making you laugh? Yeah. What's your name? What's your name?
What's your name? Is that your name? Yes. She's better at sports. Kind of thing.
She's a little introverted. But I see it in her. You know, she has her moments where she just hands it up. You know, kind of thing. So I like that play.
Yeah. But what are you laughing at right now? I'm having a lot of the talk. I'm watching my friends work, you know, like whoever's putting out like new work kind of thing. You know, I just, like I wasn't really aware of Sarah's like stand up presence and I watched that special.
That's special. So we, we had her on. She is that special is the craziest shit I've ever seen. It's the craziest. And I like to thank God because who else can do it?
And I was like, he's a boo. Yeah. She's so funny on here. Like the train loses. Yeah.
She's fantastic and like that's one of the newer things I caught on to recently. But like, you know, any and all of our friends that are doing stuff, you know, like Leslie Jones's special was fantastic, like Vanessa's still out there. Killing for that. They would teach the Campbell, which is what we got to do. It's really funny.
Yes. So like, yeah, I'm just, you know, celebrating all of our friends. You always do. You've always been like laughing with us along the right way and always like reminding us that we won the lottery for getting to do what we get to do a lot of the time. it is really a nice reminder and a pleasure to take a look around and be reminded of the reach when we're flicking through the channels or something pops up into Zeitgeist.
Thank you for Broad City, for Page and Hannah, just supporting new people along the way and constantly just keeping the vibe alive, fishing for fun times. Thank you for always shouting out all us women too. You always do that, we love you. It's unbelievable and it's undeniable. You can put your glasses back over this last thing and I love that you're going to your daughter's play.
Yeah, especially her. Yeah. I'm so excited. My only one had field day and her country to represent was Austria, so she had to learn about Austria and listening to a seven year old talk about Austria is adorable. Oh, and I've seen the faces of these children and they are insanely sweet and cute.
Yeah, bless them. And they're so lucky to have you as their dad. And now that you're a grandpa, we're so lucky to have you as a grandpa. Yeah, and hopefully I'll be a great, great before I'm out here like Morgan Freeman, you know? Yeah, and I'm going to meet you on the right carpet and have also have sunglasses on and weirdly a seat at like a dog's.
I'm just going to bring a backup there for people that I like and it was like, all right, just to make sure. Thank you. We'll get you some. I'm so lucky to have you. I'm so lucky to know you and it's so good to see you.
I love you. Thank you for doing this. So much, my pleasure. My pleasure. I'm so happy to see you today.
Yeah, same. Thank you so much, Keenan Thompson. You are the best. You're the best, most wonderful person and so hilarious. And I'm so lucky to know you and thank you for doing this.
And you know, in these polar plunges, we usually kind of dig deeper into something that we talked about. But I just want to take a minute to just dig a little bit deeper into the fact that Keenan's characters on SNL, 23 years in, still kind of remain the characters that I quote on a weekly basis, whether it is TT and Mario saying, I'm going to put whipped cream on your business. And who says, who delores when he does update or DJ Dynasty Handbag, a character that he did on a sketch called Deep House Dish, which was kind of like a Euro MTV show. And read by the great James Anderson. And Keenan's character used to say bokeh instead of okay.
And I say bokeh or bokeh or bokeh or whatever. However you said all the time. I guess my point is Keenan is like woven into the fabric of that show and my experience in that show in a way that's like very, very, very special to me. And is kind of stuck in my brain. So my plunge today is to encourage you to keep watching his stuff past, present, and future and to stay in the present like he does too.
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