Kevin Griffin of Better Than Ezra & Ajay Popoff of Lit–Rock "Music’s Second Act"

AI can write a song on command, streaming pays pennies, and somehow, '90s rock is louder than it’s been in years.We sit down with Kevin Griffin of Better Than Ezra and Ajay Popoff from Lit to talk about what’s actually happening behind the curtain: where the money moves, how fans discover music now, and why the old rules still hold up in an algorithm-driven world.• Studio banter on merch rules and live show culture• Why a rock resurgence and ska revival are hitting feeds• What sync licensing means and why it matters now• Streaming royalties vs real artist income• How established bands choose openers and build sellout tours• The case for licensed AI tools that pay creators• Soundbreak.ai and the idea of fans co-writing ethically• Ajay’s origin story for “My Own Worst Enemy”• MTV’s impact on breaking a band then vs now• How Lit thinks about releasing new music todayIf you care about the future of songwriting, the 90s alt-rock resurgence, and how musicians can stay human while using new tools, this episode is for you.Behind the Scene, with Gunz, Sully, and Dicky Barrett, is your go-to show for all things on stage and off in the music industry