Kim Stanley Robinson on Real Utopian Futures

Kim Stanley Robinson discusses Real Utopian Futures.Find the feed of English episodes only here: https://www.futurehistories-international.com/You can also import the RSS feed to your favorite app: https://www.futurehistories-international.com/feed.xml ShownotesThe reference page on Kim Stanley Robinson, his works, interviews, talks, etc. (including a discussion forum):https://www.kimstanleyrobinson.info/Robinson, K. S. (2020). The Ministry for the Future. Orbit Books.https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/the-ministry-for-the-future/9780356508863/Robinson, K. S. (2017). New York 2140. Orbit Books.https://www.orbit-books.co.uk/titles/kim-stanley-robinson/new-york-2140/9780356508788/Robinson, K. S. (1988). The Gold Coast. Macmillan.https://us.macmillan.com/books/9780312890377/thegoldcoast/Blumenfeld, J. (2024). Managing Decline. Cured Quail, Vol. 3.https://curedquail.com/Managing-DeclineBlumenfeld, J. (2022). Climate Barbarism. Adapting to a wrong World. Constellations, 30, 162–178.https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/1467-8675.12596the quoted Kohei Saito video:https://youtube.com/shorts/WnvhD7p651M?si=SdfPftKOCJM6MS9jthe lecture in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about “futurecide” and “preemptive capitulation”:https://youtu.be/HpzXkpx29S4?si=PVlOE53Hj5-BZR5Breporting on and summary of the talk:https://www.ioes.ucla.edu/article/the-war-on-science-is-here-kim-stanley-robinson-says-its-just-the-beginning/Löwy, M. (2005). What is Ecosocialism? Capitalism Nature Socialism, 16(2), 15–24.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/10455750500108237for an overview of the history and different schools of Ecomarxist/Ecosocialist theory:https://www.historicalmaterialism.org/ecology-marxism-andreas-malm/on Anna Kornbluh:http://www.annakornbluh.com/on Mass Extinction Events:https://www.nhm.ac.uk/discover/what-is-mass-extinction-and-are-we-facing-a-sixth-one.htmlDressler, A. (2025). You have 100 ‘Energy Slaves’. The Climate Brink.https://www.theclimatebrink.com/p/you-have-100-energy-slaveson the 30 by 30 Biodiversity Goal:https://www.cop28.com/en/thought-leadership/The-30x30-Biodiversity-Goal-at-COP28the International Maritime Organization:https://www.imo.org/on the ‘Half-Earth Project’:https://eowilsonfoundation.org/what-is-the-half-earth-project/Wilson, E. O. (2016). Half-Earth. Our Planet’s Fight for Life. Norton Books.https://wwnorton.com/books/9781631492525Pendergrass, D. & Vettese, T. (2022). Half-Earth Socialism. A Plan to Save the Future from Extinction, Climate Change and Pandemics. Verso.https://www.versobooks.com/products/2650-half-earth-socialismone of the many interviews/talks in which Kim Stanley Robinson talks about science fiction as the realism of our times:https://youtu.be/p1wNhc46xjE?si=hOdKuwRQhef-9tLson the Turing Test:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_teston Neoliberalism attaching itself to demands of the New Left:Boltanski, L. & Chiapello, E. (2018). The New Spirit of Capitalism. Verso.https://www.versobooks.com/products/1980-the-new-spirit-of-capitalismon Friedrich Hayek:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_HayekWilliams, R. (2015). Structures of Feeling. In: D. Sharma & F. Tygstrup (Ed.), Structures of Feeling. Affectivity and the Study of Culture (pp. 20-26).https://www.degruyterbrill.com/document/doi/10.1515/9783110365481.20/htmlon Keynesianism:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_economicsVogl, J. (2017). The Ascendancy of Finance. Polity Press.https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-ascendancy-of-finance--9781509509294Graeber, D. (2011). Debt. The First 5,000 Years. Melville House.https://files.libcom.org/files/__Debt__The_First_5_000_Years.pdfon Thomas Piketty:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Pikettyon Gabriel Zucman:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriel_Zucmanon the ‘Zucman tax’: https://www.lemonde.fr/en/les-decodeurs/article/2025/09/23/zucman-tax-what-the-proposed-wealth-tax-would-mean-for-france_6745653_8.htmlon Carbon Taxes:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_taxSorg, C. (2023). Finance as a Form of Economic Planning. Competition & Change, 29(1), 17-37.https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/10245294231217578Sarkar, S. (2024). The Carbon Coin. An Eco-Speculative Approach to Decarbonisation in Kim Stanley Robinson’s The Ministry for the Future. Green Letters, 28(4), 297–310.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14688417.2025.2483998A policy proposal on ‘Carbon Reward’ from the same researcher whose earlier policy work inspired the ‘Carbon Coin’ idea in The Ministry for the Future:https://deltonchen.substack.com/p/new-economic-blueprint-for-resolvingsee also:https://globalcarbonreward.org/newsletters/carbon-coin/on Quantitative Easing:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easingon Carbon Drawdown:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_sequestrationon Nicolas Stern:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Stern,_Baron_Stern_of_Brentfordon the Democratic Socialists of America:https://www.dsausa.org/the Network for Greening the Financial System:https://www.ngfs.net/enon COP30 in Belém:https://unfccc.int/cop30Solnit, R. (2022). Orwell’s Roses. Penguin.https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/607057/orwells-roses-by-rebecca-solnit/Future Histories Episodes on Related TopicsS3E47 | Jason W. 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[for a review copy, please contact: amber.lanfranchi[at]bristol.ac.uk]https://bristoluniversitypress.co.uk/creative-constructionInternational Network for Democratic Economic Planninghttps://www.indep.network/Democratic Planning Research Platform:https://www.planningresearch.net/---Future Histories Contact & SupportIf you like Future Histories, please consider supporting us on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/join/FutureHistoriesContact: [email protected]: https://twitter.com/FutureHpodcastInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/futurehpodcast/Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@FutureHistoriesEnglish webpage:https://futurehistories-international.com Episode Keywords#KimStanleyRobinson, #JanGroos, #Interview, #FutureHistories, #FutureHistoriesInternational, #futurehistoriesinternational, #Utopia, #RealUtopias, #DemocraticPlanning, #Keynes, #Dystopia, #DemocraticEconomicPlanning, #Capitalism, #EcoSocialism, #Socialism, #GreenCapitalism, #Narratives, #ClimateCounterAesthetics, #Transition, #SocioEcologicalTransition, #SocialDemocracy, #ScienceFiction