Hey, wake up. Wake up. Wake up. Wake up.
Yeah, you gray baby. Wake up. Big ball of gray slime. Wake up.
Wake up. How does that not come up yet? Right? Yeah.
One of our most famous things is wake up. Yeah, James Ropes. Wake up. Do you hear that?
The sirens going off. Yeah. Yeah, I do. That can only mean one thing.
Another episode of King Me Babies. I do feel like the sirens are constantly going off when we're recording. So I assume they're going off this time. Yes.
Yeah, well, I'm a little hot right now. They're on my tail. Yeah, that even happened by you, didn't it? In your quiet beach community.
Yeah. When I was there. Well, yeah, we caught the train. Yeah.
Oh, is that what it was? It was. Did you... Did you...
They said to take the train. I was listening to it today. And like the train is so loud. It's funny.
Well, you heard it today. Oh, you were listening to the episode. I was listening to the episode where... I'm sorry.
I thought you meant you were listening to the train. No. Yeah. I was sitting outside.
I was sitting outside. I was smoking my corn cob pipe. And I was listening to the music of the rails. And you know me, every time it went by, I'd start cussing and throwing rocks at it.
Yeah. Ever since they laid that track, this town's gone to shit. Wow. Rob, that's good mute work.
I can't wait to see if that holds over the... I'm trying. Because you're sick. I am still sick.
Am I... So the board that I'm using right now, the mute button, none of the mute buttons work. So I'm just hitting the fader. Whoa.
Yeah. Whoa. See how fucked up that is. Nah, we'll throw a compressor on it.
It'll be like it never happened. It'll be like every one level the whole time. How'd you get sick? Is it true that you were drinking a can of Harrows beer?
Harrows beer. Harrows premium. Logger. Oh, Supreme.
I was drinking it and it smelled like something had died in there. But I just kept drinking it. Yeah, you drank a whole can, right? Yeah, I drank a...
You were drinking a... You're drinking a... Dead cat flavored liqueur. Just a hint.
Yeah, just a whisper of dead cat. See, I used to drink liqueur and I switched over to Spin Drift because that actually has... That actually has dead cat juice in it. Yeah.
So it says it on the side of the box, right? Like eight cans or whatever, one whole dead cat. That's right. Yeah.
Well, I'll tell you what, die hard, Stephen King fans, emphasis on die due to a spooky. We'll already know what we're talking about. You know who else will know what we're talking about? Who's that?
Anyone who read the name of the episode. Right. Everybody who dies on this. Yes, unless you were a live cat, just kind of walked across the keyboard in such a way that it took you to page six of your Google results and you found this podcast.
Right. You were searching for maybe something to do with checkers and on page six you came across a dumb podcast called King Me. Then you also know that we're talking about gray matter. Okay.
Gray matter. Now, we're kind of mixing it up a little bit. We started off doing true babies. Right.
Sorry, what were you going to say? No, I'm just having a cough attack. I thought I was doing a very good job of acting like... Nothing was happening.
You're not dying. Yeah. I'm either dying. I'm going to skype call here.
Yeah. I'm just like a dead-eyed goofy smile on my face like, all right. Let's get into it. How long after I die on mic right here, do you stop trying to vamp?
This is a Patreon so I'm going to finish the episode. You've got to finish the episode. Yeah. Yeah.
That makes sense. Hey, this is a Patreon. But it's half a Patreon. Everyone.
Well, I'll tell you what. If you're listening to this on the main feed, cool. We're going to get to hear us talk about the Creepshow, the 2019 Creepshow adaptation of this. If you want to hear us also discuss the short story, a little later on, head over to the Patreon.com.com.link in the show notes.
And $5 a month gets you this whole episode and an additional biweekly episode. Yeah. And that's cool. That was very well spoken.
Thank you. I didn't cough once. Take notes. You can lock it up.
Fuck. All right. So we're talking about Grey Matter, episode one, season one of Creepshow. Yes.
Now, here on this very program, we've discussed the Creepshow. We have the motion picture, not the series. Part one, two, and three. Yeah.
Remember part three? Only after you explained it to me in detail a couple weeks ago. I had to really be, you had to put on some of my old favorite music from when I was a kid for me to go, oh. I had to get all your chess pieces out so you could feel them.
You could put them in your mouth. Just remember, just all your memories started flooding back. Yes. I actually discovered this podcast when I was googling how to put my chess pieces in my mouth.
I have a punk. That's silly. Stupid, right? Yeah, I like it.
Pretty stupid. Yeah. So, oh, here he goes. Here he goes.
And it's fun to laugh, but he's coughing into a, it's fun to laugh, but we mustn't because every time, every time we set him off, he pulls out a white hanker chip. Right. I'm constantly, spot of blood into it. Right.
I'm constantly coughing up blood. Yeah. Hey, as long as you're not coughing up Greygunk. Ah, Greymatter.
Greymatter, if you will. So, 2019. 2019. I, I don't know.
That just felt like a natural stopping point. Yes. Creepshow 2019. Go on.
No, no, you first. Oh, Jesus. Well. Starring.
Adrian Barbeau. Giancarlo Esposito. Tobin Bell. Oh, jigsaw himself.
The jigsaw man himself. I'll tell you what, I don't think I'd seen Tobin Bell in anything apart from a, a saw movie, a saw movie and I got to say he does not have range. No, it's, it's all basically the same thing. He's got that one lane.
Yeah. He's, it's his lane. Now, Bobby, did you know much about Creepshow, the series going into it? You've seen any of this.
I did see this episode back whenever it, you know, aired, whatever, three years ago. I watched a couple of them. I didn't get like hooked into it. I didn't, I honestly don't think it's very good.
Yeah. Sporters. So, so, spoilers. So, spoilers.
Something I, and I'll tell you what, like we, we already mentioned Adrian Barbeau and Giancarlo Esposito. Yeah. But we got some, I mean they, they pulled, uh, some decent talent for this. No, absolutely.
We got Bruce Davison, in an episode for end of the show. Friend of the show? Bruce Davison. Keith, Keith, Sutherland, Ethan, Embry, Justin Long.
Like there's some names here. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. I almost would have preferred, like, you know, I get it.
I get putting like an Adrian Barbo in here. Probably this show's also pulling like a big chunk of the Breaking Bad fan base. I could see some overlap between those two shows. So it makes sense like kind of casting those people.
It makes sense casting a Tobin Bell. I would have preferred, pay some maybe less well-known people, get some better talent. You know, here's the thing, it's front loaded. There's not a deep bench on this roster.
Right. Right. Poor, and you know, I'll never be Smurch a child actor, but poor Christopher Nathan playing Timmy here. Oh boy.
Has a lot of heavy lifting to do. And frankly, like, no offense, Adrian Barbo. Also pretty bad in this. No, I know.
But you know what? So I don't think it's the source material, which we're not going to talk about right now, but it's not. Hell no. I really think that whatever they did to adapt it, whatever changes they made to the story, but then also like, I don't know, like the hyper-silized way that they tell the story is, I don't think it really works.
I agree. So it's a little too late. We'll tell you in cheek or something. Yeah.
I mean, it really would have felt like was there just like filling gaps. Right. Yeah. You're talking about the device of the comic book shit.
Specifically. The comic book shit. But even the live action stuff, I thought was like, I don't know, just the way it was shot, the way that everybody was acting. Everybody was like, so up and big.
Kind of with all their lines. I was just like, I mean. Yeah. I meant to look up the name of a geometrist from Holland.
So I could be like, I feel like I'm looking at a proof by so-and-so with all these Dutch angles. But I forgot. And that's OK. But I mean, it felt like the camera was just kind of like swinging freely almost.
It was. Yeah. Like when by the time Gus Fring and Jigsaw get to the house. Fring.
Yeah. Yeah. It's just like all Dutch angles all the way up to the second. Yes.
Second story of that house. Wow. Gus Fring and Jigsaw. Who would win a fight?
The two greatest masterminds. Yeah, seriously. I also don't think I was at a baseball game. OK.
And I went to the concession stand. And I have this. I don't think you I don't know if you've seen this shirt. I have it.
It's got Bugs Bunny and Donald Duck on it. OK. And they're stylized to look like Walter Becker and Donald Fagan. OK.
And there's a sign in between them that says Dan season instead of like, Rabbitsies and Ducksies. Yeah. Which throws people because they're like, you got a shirt with your name on it. And that's purely incidental.
Anyway. So I'm wearing the shirt. And the kid behind the counter is he couldn't have been more than like 19. He was like, he could have been more than nine years old.
He couldn't have been more. No, he couldn't have been more than. Hey, 19. Oh, I missed it.
No. And you stepped on my joke. He couldn't have been more than a 19 years old. There we go.
Had to get that out. It's very important. It's cold for laughter. And he's just like, man, I love your shirt.
I was like, oh, thanks. He's like, have you played? It may have just been called like crossover or something. I was like, or I think it was called like universe.
I forget. It was something like vague. And yeah. But he was like, I was like, no, what's that?
He's like, oh, man, it's this amazing video game where it's like you can play as like all your favorite characters. It's like a fighting game. It's like Smash Brothers. But you can be like Walter White fighting books.
And he showed me. And it's real. But so this crossover, we're talking about where Jigsaw fights Gus Fring. I think it's possible within the world of this video game.
All right. So maybe we can make that happen. All right. Get this kid off the phone.
We got to do what. We got this sort of the sound. I assume you got his number. Right.
I said, I should get your phone. Excuse me, young man. Anyway, yes. Oh, yeah.
The look of it is strange. The comic book thing, which we mentioned. Yeah, the comic book thing. So in Crip Show, the movie, which I would say is fairly beloved on King Me, right?
The official Stephen King movie podcast. The official podcast of King Me. Oh, I'll let you go without saying it. Sure.
And the sort of frame device is that you're basically hanging out with a Grim Reaper who's reading comic books. Yeah. You're hanging out with a super demon. But he's really into comics and telling stories.
Yeah. You're hanging out with what's his name, Eddie from the Iron Maiden Album Covers. Yeah, it's Eddie from the Iron Maiden. Basically.
Oh, man. Eddie versus Gus Fring. Oh, man. Wow.
Something to consider while I explain this. Right. So you have that sort of wrap around device. And then in this, you get the same thing, except also they cut back to the panels in the middle of the story to sort of like fill shooting gaps, basically is what it felt like.
That sure is what it felt like. And then as if to try to sell it as a stylistic choice, they also like there's the sound of the dad opening beer cans in sort of a montage. And then on the screen, you get like the on amount of Pia of like however it was spelled out. Right.
That's right. This is a smart show. That's right. I love what an amount of Pia is.
Yeah. Anyway, so it doesn't look great. And then I would say on top of that, I did not think the writing was super spot on. It wasn't.
Yeah, it's a bad. There are a lot of like janky performances, but they are not helped by the dialogue, which are sort of. It's the dialogue is a, I don't know, it's kind of, it's simple, slow, but also, I don't know, in the source material or whatever. It's, I don't know, it just, the source material gets to the point, like it feels like, or it's, you know, there's like something to it.
This is just, I don't know, it's just not there. I don't know. It's missing something. I don't know what it is.
Yeah, it's hard to say. And like, I mean, show itself is something that like on paper I should like this. It's like a horror anthology show like that. And like, you know, there's gonna be like old character actors coming through.
That's fun too. And yeah, I don't know. It's just kind of, it's kind of boring. And then like, I don't know, the, once we get to the monster itself, I don't know.
I could tell like, they were going for like a practical effect at first. And then it went to like a digital effect. Yeah. And I was like, well, why are we doing this?
Yeah, I think like, so, you know, we watched TerraVision on the Patreon. You sure did. Which we very lovingly refer to as a goop fest. And I think, I mean, the story is, undoubtedly a goop fest.
It must be a goop fest in order to succeed. And I think when you're dealing with goop, you gotta do things practically. I want real goop. Give me real goop.
How much could goop possibly cause? Right. Right. Instead of casting John Carlo Esposito, maybe get de-noris.
Sure. Right. And use that savings, put that toward the goop budget. Right.
Right. The Gwyneth Paltrow goop budget. Yes. Yeah.
Vagina, scented candles. Yeah. Oh, God. Poor Adrian Barbeau demanding to know why they're trying to steam clean her vagina when she gets to set every day.
Yeah, we're steam cleaning her vagina also. Here's a stone that you have to put inside of yourself. A lot of a, a lot of vagina stuff for you on this shoot. Yeah.
It's not a bit annoying. Nothing to do with the story. Yeah, I agree. And honestly, I didn't, I didn't hate the design of the monster.
That's true. I thought it looked pretty good, like sort of like keeping in mind how it's described in the story. Right. I thought that looked good.
I understand why you also, I mean, should we tell that we just go through the plot real quick? Yeah. We're talking about this this matter. OK.
So we start off in just like a little, what would you call it? It's like a general store or something. Yeah. Like a little general store.
It's Giancarlo Esposito, Adrian Barbeau, and Tobin Bell. And they, you know, it seems like it's Adrian Barbeau's place. She plays Dixie. And then just sort of like hanging around as she like zeros out, the till for the night or whatever.
We have Doc Giancarlo Esposito's character and the sheriff chief as he's referred to by Jigsaw. Sheriff Jigsaw. Served Jigsaw. You're going to let that man keep along your town.
He's a psychopath. He rides a little tricycle to every police. He's on by his ears. What seems to be the problem here?
Yeah. So in walks, little Timmy, is this named Grenadine? It is. Timmy Grenadine.
Well, Timmy Grenadine. Dressed in a little bit. Yellow raincoat on purpose. I would describe it as Georgie Sheik.
It's right. It's a bit Georgie. It's very Georgie. At one point.
It's giving Georgie. It's giving right. At one point, Jigsaw says to Gus. I don't know why I bothered naming it.
Doc and chief and whatever. Yeah. Everybody knows them as Gus and Jigsaw. Jigsaw says to Gus.
Jigsaw says to Gus something about like, when the kid comes in, he's very like, he's buying beer for his dad. But he's like, I don't want to go back there and whatever. He's kind of like freaked out. And then he tells the adults there, whatever that his dad is like sick.
And he can't go back there. And they're like, what has he been hitting you? Like, what's going on? And he's like, no, it's so much worse than that.
You won't believe it, right? And then Jigsaw says to Gus, he says something to the effect of like Charlie, you know, a few years ago, he said he saw something in the sewer that scared the living shit at him, and I didn't know. Was that a reference to it? In the show, it's not clear.
Okay. I'd say it's a lot clearer in the short story. Well, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't think so. I mean, like, because like there are some nods to other stuff, but it felt more like. I want to hear some of the stupid nods.
Fucking Grady twins, right? The Grady twins. So there was a in it, like the before we even meet anybody, there's like a establishing shots and like there's a newspaper where it says like the Grady, the twin girls missing or whatever. It's the Grady twins.
There's also missing pets. Hold the names of the pets, of course, Church, Koojo, and what was there's another one. I missed Koojo. That's like extremely annoying.
It's extremely. That's Castle Rock levels annoying. Yeah. And Clovis, who's the cat from Sleepwalkers.
Of course. Of course. Of course. Clovis.
You know, Clovis. Yeah. All of that stuff. Very annoying and kind of distracting.
Yes. I feel like you can get away with Clovis. I feel like you can meet Clovis. Yes.
Clovis is fair game. Sure. Not enough people. Clovis.
Not a lot of people are familiar with, you know, Sleepwalkers. Where my sleepy head's at? Where my motherfuckers at? Yeah.
Where my weird motherfuckers. But yeah, no, even Church, you can be like, oh, that's cute. Whatever, that's cute. But Koojo.
Who doesn't even have the fucking book, man. You can't do that. Yeah. Yeah.
Church is just a place you go every Sunday. Right. Right? Right.
Yes. Right. And sometimes in the week now, it's like football. It's not just Sundays anymore.
It's on Thursday. Yeah. So you don't have to wait until Sunday to pray to the Lord. We just turn it a totally different direction with the podcast.
Is that what we call instead of returns? This is like, we were waiting until just the right moment. When can we give you the perfect time? Yeah.
Well, like, here's what we have to do. We have to establish our listenership. Right. Then we have to take a year off.
Then, yeah. Yeah. Then we have to come back and talk about something that five people have seen and two people have ever cared about. Right.
And then we start preaching. And then, yeah. Then we get them. That's why we have to have hooks in them.
Put out a podcast and then take a two-year break to just so people just so they want it. And here's the thing. We got international reach. Oh, it's true.
You know? So this is being broadcast out all over the world. Right. We have friends.
That's a lot of pressure. Down under. Yes. On the bottom of the web.
Well, I had to offensive. Is it? No, I don't think so. Yes.
I mean, no. No. No, I'm sorry. Sorry.
So, Gus and Jigsaw decide to say. Gus and Jigsaw. They're like, okay, we're going to bring the beer. Pick his thieves.
Yeah. We're going to bring the beer to your dad. Ritchie. Right.
So they go like, and there's like a big storm hitting the town. So they're like, you know, everything is basically like closed down, like streets are closed. There's not many people around. So the two of them go out into the storm.
They're going to go check out Ritchie and whatever. And at this point, Dixie says to a little Timmy, you know, I'll make you something to eat, you know, tell me what's going on. And then he starts like laying out this whole long story about how his dad is a raging alcoholic. And ever since mom died.
Ever since mom died, which we see in comic book form, he's been hitting the bottle pretty hard. And then he loses his job. So he just sits at home all day drinking. And then one day he opens up a can of beer and he takes a sip and he says that's the worst thing I've ever tasted.
Like something was wrong with it. Then he just he drank the whole thing because he was just so addicted to dread. Yeah. You actually you see that part in flashback in live action flashback.
They really treated us here. And you it's from Timmy's point of view. He's like in his bedroom doing homework or whatever. And he hears his dad like heaving and he runs out.
He's standing over the sink like about to hurl and he doesn't. And then he like kind of sticks his hand in his mouth and pulls out some like blood and gray goop some gray matter if you will. It's disgusting. You know, like that I did not he liked it.
He started laughing. This is amazing. There's gray goop in my mouth. Timmy, you got to see this.
Stop doing your fucking homework and come look at this great group. I found in my mouth. Hey, nerd knock it off. I thought that reaction was stupid.
It made no sense. There was no reason for it to happen. Yeah. Because the whole time to like I just assumed he was drunk and that's why he thought it was that's why he was laughing at it.
You know, yeah, I guess it's just like I make no sense because like the rest of the time, although he's like an alcoholic and is like he's spiraling. He's sort of made it to be sympathetic. Yeah, sure. He's like a wary is a problem.
There's a weird shot not long after this where he like just turns on. It's like darkness and then a light comes on and he's just like sitting next to Timmy's bed while he's asleep. He just like wakes him up and he's like he's just like I'm going to get better. He's like I'm just so you know.
I've been I was thinking about it while you were asleep and before I forgot I wanted to let you know that I am going to quit drinking. And he's just like, okay, he repeats it like several times throughout the episode. Yeah, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's like, yeah, he's like telling his kid he loves him. Timmy even says to Dixie at one point, he's like, he's like, you know, my dad's always been good to me to basically just like as much as he can, he's been good to me.
Right. Oh my God, you've got tears in your eyes. I know. Oh boy.
Oh boy. Yeah. So yes, we get all that and like in parallel with him telling the story, it's jigsaw and Gustavo Fring right out in the storm, out in the storm, eventually. Yeah.
And then he I think gets to the point where it's like, you know, his dad starts blacking out the windows. You okay? Oh, he's doing his thing. All right.
He's dad's like blacking out the windows. He's you know, they're in this routine where Timmy just like comes and he gets home from school with beer and things are a little weirder every time he gets home. Dad's got sort of just like, it's not like decomposing in the chair. Yeah.
Yeah. He's got like black splotches forming on his skin resembling mold. Yeah. And then one day he comes home and I actually, this may have been like the highlight of the episode for me when he's wrapped in the blanket.
Yeah. That's the bad part. And it's like the way he's moving is so great. So yeah, Timmy gets home and his dad's like wrapped in a blanket, but also like dripping with goo.
Yeah. So he's like wet with goo. And you can't tell like, like all the blanket is almost like absorbed into the goo. Like it's, it's all like, it seems like it's all like one thing.
Yes. That's like the best effect. That looks great. Totally.
And like reading the story, you know, because there's a detail which basically made in the story that that's that effect is sort of like adapting. And I was so happy to see it. Yeah. Oh, effective in the story.
Yes. Monster wise, this reminded me a lot of like Jordy Veral. Yes. Right.
It's, Jordy is mossy. Right. Right. Right.
So again, Richie, Richie is slimy. Yeah. And you can like kind of see his arm and it's almost looks like a tentacle. Yeah, it's like a, like a stump but it's, it's moving and like sort of, I don't know, like changing shapes.
It's like it. Yeah, it's like a bit articulated but not, not quite. Right. But I forget what he says, but he's like, either, yeah, what's the line?
Well, the, you know, the kid like comes in and whatever. And sees, sees the dad and dad's obviously like a drippy, goopy mess. And he's like, I'm going to call the doctor and, uh, oh no, I'm sorry. First he sees him and he's like, dad, what's wrong with you?
And he's like, oh, it doesn't hurt. It actually feels kind of nice. Oh, yeah. And then the kid's like, I'm going to call the doctor and he says, don't, don't you dare.
If you do, I'm going to touch you and then you'll turn into this. And then we don't see it. But presumably he like removes the blanket from his head and shows him his face. Yeah.
And it's so horrifying that he like takes off. Yeah. Which, I mean, it really did it for me. I thought that was such a good little.
Yeah. That was a few wins. Definitely. Yep.
So he's telling this story and I think like, right, it's like, once they're in the house, they get to the house, the house stinks. The radiator is on. It's like a hundred degrees in there. Right.
And it's one of the houses that it's like multiple apartments. So it's a freestanding house. And then you go in and there's like doors to different like, you know, like one room apartment. Yeah.
Like an old Victorian mansion that's been like subdivided. Yes. Yeah. So as they're like going through the house, they get deeper into the house and they see there's like, like almost vegetation growing.
Just like, it almost looks like, remember in the Super Mario Brothers movie. I do. Yeah. When the king gets, the king gets turned into.
Yeah. It looks like that. It's like, it's like that's sort of like, tenderly fungus hanging from the ceiling. Yes.
It's, it's, yeah, it's king. It's Mario King. Right. It's giving Mario King.
And as they're, as that's all happening, Timmy is explaining to Trixie that like he wanted, he started things got weirder. Like he, he made Timmy start heating his beer up for him. Right. He had to really hot in the house.
And then it wasn't enough to have the beer. Right. Then he, then his appetite, a guru and guru and he, he, he, yeah, he, nothing would satisfy his hunger anymore. And at this point, like Dixie is like, wait, what, what are you talking about?
Like, what, what did you do? And he's like, I'm sorry. I'm, you know, I had to do it. And at this point, right, like jigsaw and Gus are in the apartment, right?
They're, they're looking around the places like, like you said, like it's disgusting. It's covered in whatever that like mossy kind of mold, whatever is. And then they stumble upon like, like some pet, like bones of like animals, like cats and stuff. And Gus loses it and he runs to the bathroom, throws up.
And while he's in there, he sees two decomposing bodies in the bathtub. And it's the, the, the great twins, the missing girls from the, it's the twins from the shining. Yeah, it's a twin from the shining. They're wearing like the blue dresses.
I know. They look like fricking you and me in the, in the art for this podcast. It's insane. It's, um, yeah, just retconning the fucking shining for your creep show.
Always believable. Pretty ballsy. The nerve, the raw nerve of it. So, um, so Gus, you know, he, he freaks out and calls a jigsaw into the bathroom.
So, um, his name is Jigsaw. Like I said, and at the same time, like, Timmy is saying that he had to, he had to bring it. So like it's implied that like, well, Timmy says that he brought the girls to the apartment. So his dad could eat the, uh, eat the girls.
Yeah. Um, and he's like, I have to do it. And she's like, why, why did you do that? And, uh, the kids like he said he was going to quit.
I love him. You know, hi dad. So, um, we forget, we glanced over my favorite moment, which is, um, when jigsaw just like pulls a big revolver out of nowhere and Gustavo Fring says, where'd you get that? It's just like, it's such an unnecessary thing to include.
Where'd you get that? He's like, don't worry about it. Yeah. It's like, why would you even say that?
Yeah. What? This isn't, why would you say that? It's not helping the story.
Right. Because I'm jigsaw. What? So anyway, as they're, they're freaking out and then the monster merges.
We see the monster for the first time. Right. Richie, what's his name? Grenadine?
Yeah. Richie Grenadine. Uh, all Richie. Go ahead.
Richie Mariskino. Uh, yeah. And he's like, he's this big, like, slimy, gray, uh, like human way kind of thing. You could see, he has like, he has his face in the jaw.
His jaw looks like it's like almost hanging in there. Yeah. It's like a vestigial jaw. It's very, um, the thing monster.
Yeah. The face is just like stretching contorted. Yes. And then, uh, the sheriff, jigsaw, uh, he pulls out his gun and he like, shoves it forward and then he like, sticks it in like Richie's stomach.
Yeah. Like his hand goes into like this, this gray slimy thing and he just starts firing and nothing happens. Um, and, uh, Richie just like falls forward on top of jigsaw and just like absorbs him. Yes.
Um, and then then he's, he like starts like splitting like his body is like dividing into more creatures. Um, there's that one shot when Gus is running away and it's like, uh, he's being chased by the, uh, the, by Richie. Uh, and there's like several, like maybe like three of them. They're like crawling along like the walls and the ceiling and stuff.