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EPISODE · May 5, 2026 · 35 MIN

Kitchens Aren’t Just Stressful. They’re Poorly Designed Systems.

from Fugitive Chefs · host Furqan Meerza

Most chefs think kitchens are hard because of the pressure.Long hours. Fast pace. Physical work.But what if the real problem isn’t the work, it’s the system behind it?In this episode, I speak with Fabian Wilshues de Chavez, who moved from kitchens into building a startup focused on improving kitchen operations.We talk about:Why kitchen work feels harder than it shouldThe hidden role of bad systems in daily stressWhy technology struggles to enter kitchensWhat’s actually broken behind the scenesAnd what the future of kitchens could look likeThis is not just about leaving kitchens.It’s about understanding them better.👤 Connect with Fabian:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fabian-wilshues-de-chavez-8072aa146/Remi : https://www.thisisremi.com/🎧 Fugitive Chefs is your window into alternative culinary careers and bold food innovation. New episodes every Tuesday.👉 Follow, rate us on Spotify, subscribe & comment on YouTube, and share with someone who’s questioning their place in the kitchen.🌐 Website: www.fugitivechefs.com📸 Furqan’s Instagram: https://bit.ly/4dtiyTv🎧 Podcast Instagram: https://bit.ly/43ndATO🎵 Spotify: https://spoti.fi/3F6j25A🍏 Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/43vBtbT▶️ YouTube:    / @fugitivechefs  Chapters : 00:00 — Kitchens aren’t just stressful01:07 — Fabian’s path from kitchens to startups03:00 — Why most BCC students don’t become chefs05:00 — The moment everything clicked07:00 — What’s actually broken in kitchens09:30 — What Remy is (simple explanation)12:00 — Stress vs bad systems14:30 — Why tech alone won’t fix kitchens16:00 — The reality of building a startup18:30 — Why no one is solving this problem20:00 — Why kitchens resist change23:00 — How to introduce new tools in kitchens25:30 — The future of kitchens (2 directions)29:00 — Sustainable careers in kitchens32:00 — What to do when something feels offkitchen systems, chef stress, restaurant operations, kitchen workflow, chef burnout, hospitality innovation, food tech, restaurant management tools, kitchen efficiency, fugitive chefs

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