EPISODE · Nov 28, 2025 · 11 MIN
Koray Kavukcuoglu: Building AGI Through Products
from Steven AI Talk · host Steven
This transcript captures a conversation between DeepMind CTO and Google Chief AI Architect Koray Kavukcuoglu and DeepMind team member Logan Kilpatrick about the launch and future of the Gemini models. Kavukcuoglu expresses excitement over the positive user reception to Gemini 3, highlighting its advancements in instruction following, internationalization, and agentic capabilities like function and tool calling. He stresses that the pursuit of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is not a purely academic endeavor but a joint effort co-built with customers and integrated through products like Anti-gravity and AI Studio. While traditional benchmarks are still used, the true measure of progress is the real-world utility models provide to diverse users, spanning creative tasks to complex coding challenges. He emphasizes that an engineering mindset, combined with continuous innovation rather than mere execution, is critical for achieving their ambitious goal of building general intelligence. This effort requires massive, global collaboration across all Google teams, leading to the rapid simultaneous release of new models and products like Nano Banana Pro.
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This transcript captures a conversation between DeepMind CTO and Google Chief AI Architect Koray Kavukcuoglu and DeepMind team member Logan Kilpatrick about the launch and future of the Gemini models. Kavukcuoglu expresses excitement over the positive user reception to Gemini 3, highlighting its advancements in instruction following, internationalization, and agentic capabilities like function and tool calling. He stresses that the pursuit of Artificial General Intelligence (AGI) is not a purely academic endeavor but a joint effort co-built with customers and integrated through products like Anti-gravity and AI Studio. While traditional benchmarks are still used, the true measure of progress is the real-world utility models provide to diverse users, spanning creative tasks to complex coding challenges. He emphasizes that an engineering mindset, combined with continuous innovation rather than mere execution, is critical for achieving their ambitious goal of building general intelligence. This effort requires massive, global collaboration across all Google teams, leading to the rapid simultaneous release of new models and products like Nano Banana Pro.
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