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EPISODE · Mar 8, 2026 · 44 MIN

Kouri Richins Trial: Two Witnesses, Two Different Drugs — FBI and Defense Attorney Break It Down

from The Case Against Kouri Richins · host Hidden Killers Podcast

This is our Week in Review of the Kouri Richins murder trial—and the prosecution's case is facing serious questions.The jury has heard two completely different realities over five days. The prosecution says Kouri systematically positioned insurance policies, sourced fentanyl through her housekeeper Carmen Lauber, and poisoned Eric for money. The defense says Lauber is a meth user who changed her story after getting immunity, her own supplier now contradicts her, and the physical evidence connecting Kouri to Eric's death simply doesn't exist.Carmen Lauber testified she bought fentanyl for Kouri four times. Robert Crozier—her alleged supplier—testified under oath that he only sold oxycodone, not fentanyl, because "everybody was scared of fentanyl" at the time. He claimed he was "detoxing and out of it" during his original statement to detectives. Two key witnesses. Two different stories about what the drugs actually were.Former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke spent 21 years with the Bureau, including time as Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program. He assesses what behavioral signals indicate whether witnesses with credibility wounds are telling core truth—or constructing narratives serving self-interest. He reads Kouri's sustained composure through five days of damaging testimony and examines when behavioral evidence becomes more persuasive than missing physical evidence.Defense attorney Bob Motta identifies the most significant fact: four years later, the state's own former Chief Medical Examiner still lists Eric's manner of death as "undetermined"—not homicide. He analyzes the prosecution's nine-minute phone call recording and explains what absolutely has to happen for this case to remain viable.Over twenty witnesses called. Fentanyl established. Financial problems documented. Boyfriend confirmed. But no proof of how fentanyl entered Eric's body or that Kouri administered it.Kouri Richins is presumed innocent until proven guilty.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#KouriRichins #KouriRichinsTrial #EricRichins #CarmenLauber #RobertCrozier #RobinDreeke #BobMotta #FentanylPoisoning #RichinsWeekInReview #KouriRichinsVerdict

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