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EPISODE · Aug 10, 2025 · 1H 1M

Lactation expert: The 'Breast is Best' debate, increasing milk supply & postpartum mental health

from Two Parents & A Podcast · host Alex & Harrison Fugman

This week, we are joined by a lactation expert to talk about all things breastfeeding. Naiomi Catron is an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC), former labor & delivery nurse, and author of Milk’D: Finding Your Flow In The First Weeks of Breastfeeding. We kick things off with the most common breastfeeding mistake Naomi sees new moms make (and how to fix it), plus how to maximize your milk production in those first days after birth (spoiler alert: it involves a plastic spoon!?).  Naiomi tells us the difference between breast milk and formula (and the point that “breast is best” totally MISSES). She also answer whether or not “just one drop” of breast milk is beneficial for a newborn.  From pacifiers to the best ways to increase milk supply to when you can finally drop that middle-of-the-night pumping session — Naomi has the answers. Plus, a personal favorite - she shares the role dads can play in making the whole breastfeeding process easier. Whether you’re pregnant, in the thick of it, or just curious about the science and strategy behind feeding a newborn, this episode is full of the kind of no-BS, expert-informed advice every parent needs to hear. Timestamps: 00:00:00 Welcome back to Two Parents & A Podcast! 00:01:45 Introducing Naomi Catron, Lactation Expert (RNC-OB, IBCLC) 00:02:24 Breastfeeding mistakes: What is the most common mistake new moms make? 00:06:48 How to maximize breast milk production when your baby is born 00:10:24 Newborn milk needs: How much milk does a newborn baby really need? 00:13:13 Breast milk vs. formula: The breastfeeding vs. formula debate 00:21:02 Is one drop of breast milk really beneficial for a baby? Breast milk benefits 00:22:12 Pacifiers and breastfeeding: Should a breastfeeding baby be given a pacifier? 00:24:32 Empowering moms: Your baby, your boobs, you're the boss 00:26:38 The best way to increase milk supply 00:34:00 Pumping and supply: Dropping the middle of the night pumping session 00:40:41 Breastfeeding vs. pumping: Which is better for mom/baby? 00:47:59 Latching and switching breasts: How to know when to switch sides 00:50:10 Dad's role in breastfeeding: How can dads support their breastfeeding partner? 00:59:30 Thank you for listening! #twoparentsandapod --------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you to our sponsors this week: *Miracle Mama: Head to miraclemama.com to shop and use the code TWOPARENTS for 20% off! *Magic Spoon: Get $5 off your next order at https://www.MagicSpoon.com/TWOPARENTS or look for Magic Spoon on Amazon or in your nearest grocery store. *ZipRecruiter: Experience hiring speed AND quality — go to https://www.ZipRecruiter.com/ALEX right now to try it for free! *Hungryroot: For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to www.Hungryroot.com/TWOPARENTS and use code TWOPARENTS --------------------------------------------------------------- Listen to the pod on YouTube/Spotify/Apple: https://www.youtube.com/@twoparentsandapod https://open.spotify.com/show/7BxuZnHmNzOX9MdnzyU4bD?si=5e715ebaf9014fac https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-parents-a-podcast/id1737442386 --------------------------------------------------------------- Follow Two Parents & A Podcast: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/twoparentsandapod TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@twoparentsandapod Follow Alex Bennett: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/justalexbennett TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@justalexbennett Follow Harrison Fugman: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/harrisonfugman TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@harrisonfugman Find our Guest: Milk Diva | https://www.instagram.com/milk_diva/ Naiomi Catron | https://www.instagram.com/boobbossbusiness/ Get Naiomi’s Book, Milk’D | https://www.milkdiva.com/milkdbook  --------------------------------------------------------------- Powered by: Just Media House – https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week, we are joined by a lactation expert to talk about all things breastfeeding. Naiomi Catron is an International Board Certified Lactation Consultant (IBCLC), former labor & delivery nurse, and author of Milk’D: Finding Your Flow In The First Weeks of Breastfeeding. We kick things off with the most common breastfeeding mistake Naomi sees new moms make (and how to fix it), plus how to maximize your milk production in those first days after birth (spoiler alert: it involves a plastic spoon!?).  Naiomi tells us the difference between breast milk and formula (and the point that “breast is best” totally MISSES). She also answer whether or not “just one drop” of breast milk is beneficial for a newborn.  From pacifiers to the best ways to increase milk supply to when you can finally drop that middle-of-the-night pumping session — Naomi has the answers. Plus, a personal favorite - she shares the role dads can play in making the whole breastfeeding process easier. Whether you’re pregnant, in the thick of it, or just curious about the science and strategy behind feeding a newborn, this episode is full of the kind of no-BS, expert-informed advice every parent needs to hear. Timestamps: 00:00:00 Welcome back to Two Parents & A Podcast! 00:01:45 Introducing Naomi Catron, Lactation Expert (RNC-OB, IBCLC) 00:02:24 Breastfeeding mistakes: What is the most common mistake new moms make? 00:06:48 How to maximize breast milk production when your baby is born 00:10:24 Newborn milk needs: How much milk does a newborn baby really need? 00:13:13 Breast milk vs. formula: The breastfeeding vs. formula debate 00:21:02 Is one drop of breast milk really beneficial for a baby? Breast milk benefits 00:22:12 Pacifiers and breastfeeding: Should a breastfeeding baby be given a pacifier? 00:24:32 Empowering moms: Your baby, your boobs, you're the boss 00:26:38 The best way to increase milk supply 00:34:00 Pumping and supply: Dropping the middle of the night pumping session 00:40:41 Breastfeeding vs. pumping: Which is better for mom/baby? 00:47:59 Latching and switching breasts: How to know when to switch sides 00:50:10 Dad's role in breastfeeding: How can dads support their breastfeeding partner? 00:59:30 Thank you for listening! #twoparentsandapod --------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you to our sponsors this week: *Miracle Mama: Head to miraclemama.com to shop and use the code TWOPARENTS for 20% off! *Magic Spoon: Get $5 off your next order at https://www.MagicSpoon.com/TWOPARENTS or look for Magic Spoon on Amazon or in your nearest grocery store. *ZipRecruiter: Experience hiring speed AND quality — go to https://www.ZipRecruiter.com/ALEX right now to try it for free! *Hungryroot: For a limited time get 40% off your first box PLUS get a free item in every box for life. Go to www.Hungryroot.com/TWOPARENTS and use code TWOPARENTS --------------------------------------------------------------- Listen to the pod on YouTube/Spotify/Apple: https://www.youtube.com/@twoparentsandapod https://open.spotify.com/show/7BxuZnHmNzOX9MdnzyU4bD?si=5e715ebaf9014fac https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/two-parents-a-podcast/id1737442386 --------------------------------------------------------------- Follow Two Parents & A Podcast: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/twoparentsandapod TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@twoparentsandapod Follow Alex Bennett: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/justalexbennett TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@justalexbennett Follow Harrison Fugman: Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/harrisonfugman TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@harrisonfugman Find our Guest: Milk Diva | https://www.instagram.com/milk_diva/ Naiomi Catron | https://www.instagram.com/boobbossbusiness/ Get Naiomi’s Book, Milk’D | https://www.milkdiva.com/milkdbook  --------------------------------------------------------------- Powered by: Just Media House – https://www.justmediahouse.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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