Hi, I'm Megan's a girl and this is the daily dish Bravo's official podcast. Well, guys, Megan just informed me that she had not chose for breakfast. And that's about where we're at through this whole thing. I mean, look, this is our time to just there are no rules, you know, except, you know, don't leave your house.
But that you would you like and that includes not just for breakfast. Exactly. I respect that. We also you guys will have some interviews with some of your favorite Bravo Lebanese from the comfort of their own homes.
We've been doing a couple of phoneers, some quarantine themed interviews. So stay tuned for that. I just got off the phone with Margaret Joseph's. We've got a few more lined up this week.
So very exciting. But Megan, it was great. I love Margaret, you know, she's just having a lot of morning sex. She's making sure that Marjorie and Neer are good.
But yeah, I love Margaret. She's so fun to talk to. So we have Real Housewives of Atlanta. They're still in Greece.
The last leg of the Greece trip. Vanderpump rules were back from the wedding. Real life has started. Then we have Shahza Sunset.
Plus you interviewed Meany Leakes from Real Housewives of Atlanta and Dana Kathan from Vanderpump Rules. Oh, yes. Those were both a lot of fun. And of course we'll wrap up with Rose and Thorn.
Okay, so Real Housewives of Atlanta. Just seeing your first note that says Buffalo baby. Buffalo baby. Yeah, let's start there.
Buffalo baby. The only thing that I have issue with is her calling my baby a Buffalo. Hello, it is Kenya. So upset with Meany for saying is she going to give birth to a Buffalo.
Kenya, she's not insulting your unborn baby. She's insulting you and saying you look huge, which also is not nice. But it's just again, why are housewives so literal? It blows my mind.
Right, I agree. And I think it's a little bit of Kenya looking for any excuse to remain angry with Meany because at this point in their lives, I think fundamentally Kenya just does not like Meany. And she doesn't want to have to change that. And so she's bringing this thing up from a long time ago just to make her point of like, I don't want to reconnect and be friends with her.
Right. And I think especially when it comes to her relationships and now her child, Kenya is always going to take that so personally. And any insults that might come her way so literally, whereas, you know, the previous night when they had their big fight and NeNe was like, that's why your husband left you. Obviously that was completely literal and attack on the husband.
Yeah. The Buffalo baby, you know, the not even Buffalo baby, the Buffalo comment was more, was more a dig at the way Kenya was looking than being like, Oh, your child or whatever. But Kenya's going to take it so personally just because she really is looking for any excuse to just be pissed at me, I think. So I just can't stop wanting to say Buffalo bill, baby.
But Buffalo Bill, you had not toes for breakfast. Can I have Buffalo wings? I mean, come on. You can do whatever you want.
Don't let me tell you otherwise. I did appreciate Candy getting right up and chasing Kenya down and getting loud. We haven't seen Candy get loud in a while. So I was really for that moment.
That's exactly what I was going to say because I feel like Candy is the only one who is keeping Kenya accountable at this moment because Kenya really is that person who can dish it, can't take it. And it's just like, No, you're not just say your piece and then run out while someone else is trying to tell you what their issue is. Like Marlow had something to say to Kenya. And by the way, Marlow's whole beef with Kenya, that is an issue where I think Marlow is in the right and does deserve a genuine apology.
Definitely for that particular situation, interrupting her event with Kenya more haircare. But I will say that Marlow has done Kenya pretty dirty in the past with the future. Well, that's true. Yeah, I know stuff that I'd forgotten about.
Yeah, I think we forget because we are seeing such a different side of Marlow this season. And there is something much softer about her. And I actually in the interview later with Nini, we talk a little bit about that. So I think we do forget how kind of terrible Marlow has been in the past, particularly to Kenya.
But that being said, yeah, that isolated incident of the Kenya more haircut interrupting the event. No, the right time replaced. Well, and I had even forgotten that just a few episodes ago Marlow called Cynthia a balls Caliwack. Oh my God.
I mean, I wish I could get away with saying that. It just rolls off the tongue so easily. Right. Yes, it really gets the point across but in a hilarious way.
Do you know what I didn't expect in this episode was a trip to the Low Pan Beach Club? I was like, Oh my God, is Eric dying right now? Because you love you. Blenzel.
And I mean, look, we all do, but I feel like you especially. Yes. Absolutely. I love Lindsey.
I've always been a big fan and supporter. And actually she replied to my Instagram story just overnight because I posted about how I was listening to one of her songs from. Yeah, yeah. And she replied with like the heart eyes and applause hands to my post, which I felt.
Did you die? I felt very appreciative. But it is really funny because as you know, I am also friends with her brother and we were all together and her sister in law, like I know her brother very, very well. He's one of my good friends, but I have just never met Lindsey.
We've just never. Did she make that connection? Probably not. I don't think so.
No, she had probably checked my profile. She might have seen that like a bunch of people she knew followed me, but I'm not sure she investigated that much further other than the fact that I've posted about her song, which is a great song. That whole album is really good. I highly suggest revisiting it in quarantine.
The one thing I didn't like though is, and again, this is why I would make a terrible house life. If I'm going to a beach club in Greece, I want to be dancing. I want to be drinking. I want to be swimming or I want to be sleeping.
I do not want to do some obstacle course. Let's build our communication and trust type situation. That's not fun to me. No, well, that's not what you go to a beach club for.
I think we should be grateful because this might be the closest that we get to the Olympics this year. Wow. That's the display of athleticism we can count on this year. We've talked about it before, maybe even last week's episode.
I do like when they do these themed things to either get out some tea, get out their frustrations, build some bonding. We've seen them a few times already this season doing different events where competition kind of brings out the best in them in a lot of ways. It's a moment for them all to put their sh** aside and just have a little bit of fun because they all are a little bit competitive. I personally agree and would not want to go to a beach club to then do some activities like that.
I did love watching Portia, just drag into the ocean. It actually really is very strong. Their friendship is back on track. Otherwise, I don't think that would have been the right decision for Portia to make.
I know you are not happy that they were going to do this whole play type situation at the end of the episode. Chandy and Cynthia, we're going to act out like a meanie and Kenny of Fude. Why don't we play out a Greek tragedy? You know what?
I don't think he can do this. But you can be mean. I'll be king. You know what you need and I just got my cool now.
What will we get rid of? It can be fun. Do you hear yourself ladies? Does that really sound like a great idea?
It seemed like a major stretch to me. And while I love the theme of the party, the whole Greek goddess, I was into Greek mythology as a kid. I feel like we all had a phase as a child. Maybe you didn't because you're making a silly face.
No, because Erin, Erin too, was really into it for a little bit. So I wonder if it's a guy thing. It might be. I remember just being an elementary school, maybe middle school.
And you were fascinated by the idea of Greek mythology. So I appreciated the theme and all of that. But the whole concept of putting on a play and each of them playing one of them, it didn't feel like the right recipe to mend their friendship at that point. So I was very uncomfortable with that.
And I said to Danny, as we were watching it, I was like, this is either going to go super well and it's going to be well received by everyone or somebody's going to get up and walk away. And boom, Nini was like, I'm out. And I gotta go pee with my phone man. Okay, see, that's a new word.
Right, because in an ideal world, it would be so silly that it would make Kenya and Nini sort of laugh at themselves and be like, this is so stupid. Why are we fighting? But the reality of the situation is Nini is like, I'm not watching this, like bye. It almost felt too like she was pissed at production for a loudness to be what they were about to film.
Like she kind of stormed off. She was talking to the producers, but we've seen a lot more of that from Nini in the last couple of seasons. It's really kind of breaking that fourth wall and having her just be like, I'm not playing these games. I think at that point, Nini was just really tired of putting an effort to try to mend things with Kenya.
It all went south already on this trip. So why even bother on this very last night that they're all together to force this kind of situation? I think she was just sort of like, there's so many other ways this night could have ended. Why did we have to make it about us again?
Yeah, like the women said, Kenya just really blew it. She had an opportunity to make things right with Nini that first night in Greece. She didn't take it. And now they'll never have that chance again.
I do have a prediction for the reunion, which as we know is postponed, but just postponed, it's not canceled. I do have a prediction that the theme will be Greek goddess. Oh, that's a really good guess. I bet you're right.
Which I think this is in between the promo shoot, those photos that came out with the all black, which I thought was stunning. And then ending the season with like a Greek goddess theme. Oh, I just think that would be so beautiful. That'd be amazing.
We shall see. I got the chance to interview a real housewives of Atlanta's Nini leaks. She gave her predictions on who will be in the hot seat when the reunion finally comes around. She relives the moment she learned about Kenya's divorce and she gives an update on her friendship with Cynthia.
Plus, Nini tells us how she ensures he she spills to Wendy Williams. And she's in spread. Here's an interview. Ladies and gentlemen, we are here with Nini leaks.
How are you? Yes, Nini leaks us in the building. What's going on? How are you?
I'm doing really, really good. How are you? I'm good. Thank you.
So the reunion must be coming up. Who do you think is going to be in the hot seat first at least? Probably me. Now why would that be me?
I'm not exactly sure why I would be in the hot seat, but I probably would be. If not, honestly, it would probably be Kenya. Yeah. She's like, you know, a lot of horrible things.
There's a lot going on this season with Kenya. Because I literally was on an apology to her, so I don't see why my seat would be so hot. But I can tell you hers is going to be on fire. So what are some of the issues you think that will come up?
Well, at the reunion in general, but I guess I'm a Kenya. Oh, at the reunion in general. One issue will be her bringing the cookie lady in front of Kenya. That will be a moment.
Her bringing it up then inside of Marlow's wig launch. She and I in Greece have that. Do you think that Ken or Kenya will show up to the reunion? Ken and Kenya.
Both. Okay. Because there will be certain people that she will become Ken with. That is her way of saying I'm not giving you anything.
There will be certain people like me, the girl who she wants to be. She will have a lot to say to me, she will come with her glaze because I'm going to blow her hair completely off. Okay. Well, there you go.
When the news hit about Kenya's divorce, what was your initial reaction? My initial reaction was, you know, it's unfortunate because I've been married for a long time. I've been in a relationship for a long time. You don't want to see a family break up and they have a new baby.
So it's like, wow, I mean, day. But then you think about it and you're like, karma if, because you try it with a lot of people's relationships. I mean, look what you just did to Kenya. That's not cool.
So another woman can do the same thing to you. Yeah. The way Mark treats Kenya that we've seen this season. Have you noticed a difference?
I mean, just from what you know about their relationship when they first met, did you notice a change in the way he treats her? No, when she first met him, I remember her like having this guy she would talk to you on the phone and we were in San Francisco and she kind of FaceTime with him a couple times while me, her and Cynthia had gone shopping. And I know she was like, you know, really, like this guy, whatever. And then there was a period where, you know, we weren't around and then now to the, you know, she didn't invite anybody to the wedding.
Right. So then after being back on the show, I don't know what happened in between. Yeah. But what I can see and knowing relationships the way that I do it, I'm a marriage therapist, he doesn't like her.
Well, what about the way that she treats him too? Because I mean, to your point, as viewers, we haven't really seen the two of them together until really this season. So we're getting, I think, one small glimpse into it, but I don't know. It's been hard to watch.
It wasn't hard for me to watch, but I don't think that they are a match. Yeah. In fact, I haven't ever seen her match up with any man. They are all gone with the win.
And not fabulous. Okay. Well, let's talk a little bit about you. So you have been seeing a life coach for a while over the course of the season.
We've seen a lot of that. I've been hearing about yourself being with a life coach. I know a lot of things about myself. I'm very in touch with me.
Honey, okay. But I learned honestly being with her. I learned that it is okay to issue with apology. I don't do that.
I don't do it because a lot of times when I say something, I say what I mean, I mean when I say it, I'm not trying to go back on it, but for, I mean, you don't like it too bad. But I learned that, you know, it's okay to be the bigger person as people like to say. And it's okay to apologize because I don't want to apologize, but I don't, that person may be seriously hurt from something that I said I did. And I really need to apologize to them.
I usually feel like, what if I say that you probably deserved it and I'm never going to take it back. They're just sitting there for a little while. They don't have about two years. Well, I think to that point, to that point too, sometimes it's the other person who might need the apology more than me.
Right. So that's what I understood. And I was on a little bit of apology tour. I don't quite understand why I was, you know.
I was there. I think your sincerity in terms of the apologies has come into question. But I think what you're saying is that you are sincere about it, but it's just. Oh, no.
I think most people who know me, even the girls on this show, they know that I want to apologize unless I really meant it. Yeah. And it takes a lot for me to do that. I'm not a person that's like, I'm just not that girl, unfortunately.
I'm going to be sitting here and hold your hand. That's not my hand. Right. I'm so sorry.
It's okay. I'm never that girl. Right. So these girls know if I did something even closer that it took a lot for me to do it and I really meant it.
Yeah. So I meant, I'm not a person that I don't want to hurt you. You know what I'm saying? I am blind.
I'm not trying to hurt you. Yeah. Do not want to hurt you. So everything I said to them was real.
They know it's real. You can probably ask everyone of them except for Ken. But all the rest of them will say no, we pretty much know she's not going to do that. I've worked with these girls for years.
Of course. And so I felt that I needed to say something. Now, and I did say, I think I said on Andy's show in a few other places, I apologize to Eva. I was the only person that I didn't understand why I was apologized.
Right. I just didn't understand it. Yeah. But you still chose to do it because I did it because I don't know why I did it.
And I still don't understand why I had to do it. Right. But I did it because I don't know why she would be upset with me. Yeah.
Well, I think Eva is kind of in a rough place with a few of the ladies at the moment. So what happened there? With me and her? Yeah.
Well, not even with you, but I think even with poor child like we've heard some things from us what I know is that I have my mic on. We talk about it openly on the show. I went to her. She never said anything bad.
She didn't say anything that anyone could hear if she had started cursing or saying something that we didn't want to get out. Yeah. I was just shh. I might decide.
I might. I would have done the same thing. Right. But she didn't say anything.
And so I felt like she sat in her interviews and just kind of like talk about me so hard as if I really did something to her. Marlo really was the person that brought all the dirt on her. Yeah. And she seemed to be okay with Marlo.
She seemed to really have something against me. So I just didn't think that I deserved that. she came on the show saying that she know me for 10 years, which probably wasn't like, you know, seven, but I love my head and say, tell me guys, just to help her out a little bit. Right.
And so I was always cool with her. She was like, she's like a big sister to me. I want her to speak at my wedding. And then all of a sudden, if you know me for 10 years and I've been cool and we've never had an argument, you want me to get your wedding.
Like, why have all of a sudden I'm this bad person? I thought she was jumping on the bandwagon, but the other girls are just trying to make it out of time to me, something to me, something to me, something to win really nothing. Right. Yeah.
I think you're a little right about that. She was trying to make something out of love. She was trying to make something out of love. She thought it was good to be on the bashing any wagon.
Right. Well, not a good choice. I'm coming for you. Well, we saw you got very emotional earlier on this season too with everything that went on with Cynthia.
You're trying to repair your relationship with her. You guys have that meeting and you get very emotional. So what's going on with you and Cynthia now? What's going on with you and Cynthia?
Well, we're in a much better place than we were at the beginning of this season. I always thought of Cynthia as my sister. So it was a very difficult time for me. That was probably the hardest and the only person that I've had that relationship with on the show.
And so it was just very difficult. But we're in a much better place. I saw her in the airport some months ago and she came over and said hi as I was trying to dodge her. Is it true?
I look back and I was like, okay, man, you know, you too tall as the bean. So let's just act like, and then just tiny nose. Oh, hey. Hey, girl.
Let's just see you here. What is your flight? What's she with Mike? No, she was by herself.
So what was your reaction to everything that comes out about Mike and the book he's writing, infidelity, all of that? I like Mike when I met him. I was with him on their first date in Atlanta. And I liked him.
I actually think it's okay to talk about your past. I just feel like he's talking about his past. It doesn't mean that he's going to continue to cheat. He's cheating the past and maybe he's learned from it.
I mean, I think it's okay. I mean, look, I have the guys around cheating. Right, right. Well, I think that was sort of his point.
He was like, well, the reason I'm writing this book is to let all this out to be open about it and to let you know that I'm not going to do that to you. Well, well, wait a second. But I think he's a nice guy. Yeah.
And I think it's okay to talk about your past. Actually, I think it's very healing to just, you know, like, look, I used to be a cheat. And I'm trying to be with one lady. So I think it's okay.
Yeah. At least he's trying. Yeah. That's very true.
Let's talk about your relationship with Wendy Williams. Yes. So you guys have been friends for a very, very long time. Yes.
Are you ever worried about the information that you might share with her? Just given her role. Absolutely. Yesterday Marlow and I were having late lunch or early dinner with her at Birdoff.
Every time we got ready to talk about something, we said, don't you say nothing on your show about this. Right. And then we'll go to talk and we say, and don't you say anything. Girl, we're going to make you sound anti-gay.
And because we're like girls who, I'm the type of girl, and Marlow is the type of girl. We don't really have any secrets. Like when we get with our friends, we're just trying to talk. Yeah.
And I'm like, I'll say that in front of her. So we're just like saying everything. Don't you say anything. You're going to get your show.
This is off the record. Okay. She's laying over here like, I know. And then tomorrow I'll be on her show.
But Nini said, we're like, girl, you're going to stop. Right. So I absolutely worry. Yeah.
But we have this thing. And I don't know why. She says that if she hears anything, she's going to call and ask me. And she'll always ask my permission.
Well, she broke that bar. I don't know. I don't know. She just forgot.
I was like, yeah, I'm Nisha. And now she's over here like, hey, I got a text from Nini. I'm like, what day? Hello.
Are we friends? Well, you did say on the show that you kind of, you see her heart. She sees yours. There's a connection that you two have.
So what would be something that we would be surprised to know about Wendy? She's, well, I think she said on her show that she's a loner. She's not like a total loner because she's no loner or different. But she does everything alone.
She doesn't have a lot of friends. Well, I don't think that's surprising. She's the kind of girl like, she's all about her work. Like she loves her show that really is her life.
In the show it's over. She literally snatches off her wig and grabbed this other like old wig and she wipes off her makeup. And you can see her sitting on her show looking fabulous with beautiful hair and makeup. And when the show is over she goes immediately into like she just wanna be like this regular girl.
She's on this old wig that's like flying everywhere and white by far with her makeup and she's happy. Yeah. Just like that. Alright.
And that's why sometimes we see how Instagram is like, well, her hair is a man. And I'm like, she actually wants it to be a man. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Well, because they're different when you're on the show. They're like, yeah. She's a really, she's a booty. Oh.
from every restaurant we go to my girlie there. She's like, yeah, I'm gonna eat that. Well, I think when we see her call around the show, she's like, well, I'm just looking in the fridge for something to eat before I have dinner later on. Or is that the guy?
That makes sense. Yeah, but she's just like any other girl. You know what I'm saying? Her job is her job.
And that's what she does for a living. But at the end of the day, she's fun. Like any other girl. She's having a good time.
Yeah. So Marlow, this season, we've seen her step up as the monkey role to her nephew. So I love it. I absolutely love it.
Have you seen a big change in her since she's sort of taking on this new role? And what does that been like? I always say to everybody that these boys have really changed her life. She really loves them a lot.
And she's never been a mom. So this is like her being a mom. Like somebody gave her some kids. And I see the soft side of her.
She's crazy about this. Yeah. So being so great to see especially with the charity event and her bringing them. Like I just feel like we're seeing a whole new side of Marlow.
You are. So in Toronto, there was a huge blow up fight. One of the theories we have is that Marlow decorated the room. What room?
In the hotel in Toronto. Marlow decorated her room. She had her own name up there. But she said everywhere we go.
So that's nothing to ask. Well, the one thing that I wanted to ask is there was a snake plant planted exactly behind Yovana. Was it? So I wasn't sure if that was purposely placed.
And I wanted to get clarification on that. I didn't see that. Is that true? Well, yeah, there was a snake plant behind it.
I don't know if it was just Marlow decorating her room or what? It was definitely Marlow. Marlow decorated her room everywhere she goes. So she actually taught me how to decorate my room.
So now a few of us decorate our room with our stuff. Yeah. When we go away. So she says she should make your room feel like home.
Because you're going to be staying there for a few days, right? She takes out of her shoes and her purses and candles. And she brings glasses and pillowcases. Now I'm not going that far.
But she does all of that. She decorates the room. So she could have had a snake plant. Well, she breaks too much because she's always losing her luggage when she goes places.
She's a lot stuck. She's a lot stuck. It could be two days. And she has everything.
Right. Well, before we wrap up, you had said how much happened inside that you would love to have Kim back. Do you think the rest of the cast agrees? No.
They don't agree for a couple of reasons. One is Kim is an OG. And I think these girls really, really have an issue with OG's. Yeah.
And Kim's an OG. And she's going to get a little bit more respect from people than they might get. And I think they have an issue with that. I really do.
And then Kim, she's not backing down. So she's going to be arguing with everybody, everybody, including me. Well, we would love to see that, I think. Yeah.
I don't know if Kim would ever come back. It's so weird. Like, it was a lot for her the last time she was here. Yeah.
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Thanks for the final room. Of course. OK, so Vanderpump Rules, Megan and I have a question for you as a female who has sex with a man. Yeah.
Ritchie mentions at the top of this episode us ray and pray. Jack and I want to have a family very, very soon. So we used to do the spray and pray, but now we're just not praying. Oh, right, right, right.
What on earth is a spray and pray? It means you pull out and then you pray that the pre-con doesn't get you right now. Well, I wasn't sure if a spray and pray meant that they're not using any protection at all. And they're just like going for it and praying that they do get pregnant or they don't.
Like, you know, they both have talked about Brittany and Jacks about starting a family pretty quickly after getting married. Like, that's sort of the next step that they want to take together. I wasn't sure if that meant that they were trying or if they were not trying, but just seeing what happens. I just, I'd never heard spray and pray before.
Yeah, I mean, to be fair, it's not a term me and my girlfriends use. You know, pull out method is the more traditional term. Right, more technical. Yes.
What did you think about Katie essentially shitting all over Kristen's business while she does nothing? Well, OK, so here's what it is. I don't think Katie would have said anything except that Kristen pointed out, you don't do anything. So why aren't you doing anything for our wine business?
So which then Katie has to be like, what do you do? You just take the slogans and slap it on a t-shirt. That honestly pisses me off. I could go on Pinterest and take my friends' clothes and slap them on a t-shirt and make some money, too.
Like, come on. But it didn't make me think, what happened to Pucker and Pout? That was Katie's whole business. But let me look real quick, because now that we're on the sky, I just want to see when the last time is that she posted.
But you know, even thinking about Katie and how she's spending her time, whatever, do what you've got to do, it's not my business. But they're even highlighting how Lala is volunteering at Vanderpump Dogs right now. So Lala is still kind of using her time for something good. Whereas the producers kind of gave Katie that shady montage where it was her just kind of moping about and yawning and just not really doing anything.
So I just feel like there's not really an opportunity. She shouldn't have taken the opportunity to insult Kristen when it's like she doesn't have anything to sort of back it up. OK, so I just looked in the last post of 2014. I think it's weird to me that they whipped entered into this business agreement and that all three of them aren't giving it their all.
You know what I mean? I mean, I have to imagine some of their money went into this. And I also think like when you're a celebrity, it's pretty easy to like make certain things. I don't know.
I guess it's not easy. But like your chances of your business taking off are much greater than those are the average person. Absolutely. You have the platform.
You have the social media following for it. I mean, we've seen just in the last couple of months really Tom and Ariana's Cocktail book take off. And I feel like they've been doing all of the things that they're supposed to be doing in terms of getting the right kind of press and appearing on morning shows and whatever it may be. So there's definitely still some hustle you have to put behind it.
But you should really leverage the platform. Yeah. You can. It's very strange.
Can you believe that James is going to AA? I have to say, someone even messaging about this, it dm'd me that they were like, this interview with James like who is this person? This is like a thoughtful, nice person who really just seems completely different than the James were seeing right now. So to me, I really do think that is a result of him entering a program and working it.
Like, I mean, I'm very happy for him. Yeah. Well, in your interview with him, you know, he had said at that point, he was nine months sober, which is huge. I mean, yeah, incredible for him.
And there was a noticeable change, I think, in him from when he came in for the interview just a few weeks ago versus the last time that he was here. And he just seemed to be in better spirits. And like the way in the interview, he was talking about his mom and everything, like, there was definitely a change in him. So it's very interesting to see him in the office like we did a few weeks ago and then the start of his journey on the show right now.
I mean, it's major. Yeah. I'm happy for him. And I'm happy that Rock-Hell was able to sort of successfully use it all to me now.
You know, doesn't always work out. Yeah, Rock-Hell is, you know, I love her. I think she's really starting to come into her own on the show, especially when she goes and confronts Lala about all the things that Lala said about her last year, kind of calling her stupid and whatever. Well, what a an arc we followed with Lala on Rock-Hell and then the episode.
I mean, they go to coffee and Rock-Hell and her seem to have a really good conversation. Lala takes back what she's done about Rock-Hell. But then at the end of the episode, at Santa Vals birthday party, like she might as well have just said, you're a dummy again. You know what I mean?
Right. And insinuates that, yeah, James and Logan did hook up. I just don't understand who our friendship has been looking. It's a good friend right there.
He lied for James a couple years ago about the whole thing that stopped. Just for my own personal knowledge, need to know that information because I know. I know. I have always had a bit of a crush on James.
I think like Jack's has always been like your show crush. And James has always been like my show crush when I'm trying to stand up for rules. I mean, actually, but yes, I understand. Oh, that's too bow.
And I do. I mean, and I also have a picture of Tom Schwartz like hanging on my desk that you know what I mean. He's like, oh, my God, what? I really am so curious because Lala was pretty much like, I know these things have happened, whatever.
We can move on from it, but sure, Rock-Hell, whatever. But you know, I mean, it's just like, whatever. Everyone's young in LA and they're pretty. And if James wants to talk about Logan, whatever, but just I would like to just have that information.
When I get to the pearly gates, there are certain things I want to know. Like, what is the purpose of life? Why is there suffering? And did James and Logan hook up?
Yo, I'm dead, but here's the tea. I'll either be like, you're still waiting or I'll already be inside. And I'll just be like, come on in. I don't know.
Or? Or I'll be down there. Sandoval decides to throw himself a birthday party. And it is the most extra birthday party theme yet, which is being the most extra self.
Listen, I love a theme party. I think it makes everything better, a lot more fun. Everyone feels a little bit more engaged. Everyone gets to be a little bit creative.
And I just did not appreciate that Jax. Now that he's married, he thinks he's too good for certain things. And I feel like this theme party is one of them. Why do we have to be so extra?
It's fine. It's fine when you're 25. Like, honestly, he could have just dressed up as the devil. And it would have been great.
You know what I mean? Yes, that is true. I feel like he probably wouldn't have done that. Post wedding with Brittany and everything, dressing as the devil might not be the best option.
But I see what you're saying. Yeah, I don't know. It sucks when someone is not participating. Yeah.
Just let loose. You know, have fun. Well, and especially because from the mid-season trailer that we saw, there's something that happens where Brittany is fearful that Jax is reverting to his old ways. So as much as Jax pretends that maybe he's so much different now and he's so much wiser and he's married and all of these things, I feel like for the rest of the season, we're going to see something that might be a bit alarming.
Yeesh. I also got the chance to speak with standard pump rules, Dana Kathan. She talks about Danica Dao's DUI, shares her current opinion on her ex-boyfriend, Max Boyens. And if she regrets rubbing his necklace in cat poop.
Plus, I play a little game with Dana where we try to make each other laugh with a series of dad jokes. Let's take a listen. Ladies and gentlemen, we are here with Dana Kathan. You got it.
You know that. That's it. From Vanderpump Rules, how are you? I'm good.
How are you? I'm good. Thanks for looking fabulous. Thank you.
I got judged today. You are judged up. I'm judged. Thank you so much for having me.
Of course. Thanks for coming. So let's talk a little bit about Danica first. We learned early this season that she was suspended from her job.
We find out at some point she reveals that she has a DUI. So is she a bit of a wild child? Yeah. Of course she is.
Every day she just flies off the cuff and really gets out there and lives her life out loud, I would say. I mean, I feel bad for her on the DUI thing. That was a few years ago when everyone makes mistakes. And I feel like it's very much so haunting her.
Like, you should. There's no excuse in this day and age to drink and drive. But I just do feel for her that I feel like that's haunting her. And she has this feisty reputation.
But it's for a good reason. Yeah. Oh, and she has a sense of humor about it, too. She like, we see her in the car into the breathalyze.
And she's like, oh, it's just so annoying. The first time I drove with her, and she did that. I was like, what is going on? Is this a spaceship?
Because it's like, baby, baby. And she did it. And when I tell you, I was streaming tears. I was like, how often does this happen to you?
And she has to do it all the time. Because I've heard of that, too. But I've never actually seen the process of how it works. And I was just like, oh my god.
I thought it was like a made up thing for the 40-year-old urgent. But it's a real thing. It's a real thing. So she came in a little hot this season in terms of some rumors about Max.
So knowing what you know now, do you think there was actually some truth to the rumors that she was bringing to you? The thing is, I always thought that there was truth. Max was owned, honestly, a lot of what they had told me. He gave it a spin and polished it to make it look more in his favor.
But I knew there were things out there that were unfavorable. But I just think that you can't really judge someone completely on their pass. You can keep an eye out. But I just think that they weren't coming from a good place at the time.
And didn't like me. So of course, I'm not going to trust these girls and rely on them for information about someone who's never done anything to me at that point. Did they end up being totally right? And then some, of course they did.
But that's just the name of the game. You put yourself out there. So Max ultimately bans Danica from TomTom. So what did you think about that?
We got an eye roll, ladies and gentlemen. I know you can't see that. I mean, they should see these gorgeous lashes rolling. I think that Max sometimes is a little bit on a power trip about his role at TomTom.
And the people who have authority to ban people from TomTom are Lisa and Tom and Tom. And I'm sure someone did something crazy. But just because you don't like someone, and they said something about you that's ultimately true, I don't think it's fair to just ban them from Tom. Yeah, well, it comes up, I think, in conversation with him and Tom Schwartz.
I think it is because it's not really professional. He's not banning her for a professional reason. It's 90% personal. Yeah, of course.
And I think she did kind of speak out to Richardson, the manager there. And was being drunk. But do I work at TomTomTom? Now I'm a bartender at TomTomTom.