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EPISODE · May 23, 2025 · 2H 33M

Land's Critique of Bostrom's Orthogonality

from The NanceCast · host Nance and The Dangerous Maybe

The Dangerous Maybe is back for a follow-up discussion all about Orthogonality! In this episode we go deeper into both of the Nick’s, Land and Bostrom, positions; trying to tease out all the threads and follow them where they lead.My favorite part of this episode is the discussion of Konsciousness, but I’ll leave it at that and let Mikey do the talking!We discuss this piece from Less Wrong a bit, and this piece from the Zero Philosophy substack, as well as reading the Against Orthogonality piece in Xenosystems.The episode ends with us asking whether or not it would be appropriate to ascribe Human values to something from the Outside, such as Cthulhu. We think not. Why, then, do so many people seem comfortable assigning Human Values to A.I.? This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nanceee.substack.com

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