How to Bridge Money & Meaning, Game B Economics, and Ending Bullshit Jobs | Layman Pascal

Layman Pascal is a prominent thinker in the Liminal, Metamodern, Game B, and Integral spaces whose work explores post-metaphysics, nonduality, metamodernism, integral metatheory, new shamanism, the future of religion, developmental philosophy, and meta-progressive politics. He is the co-host of the Integral Stage podcast.This episode was recorded live at Limicon 2024 and explores ideas from Layman's two popular essays "The Metamodern Business Bureau" and "Make Game A Pay for the Wall." After our dialogue, we opened the floor for participants to ask questions and share reflections.In this conversation, we explore transforming the money and meaning relationship on both a personal and societal level, making the Metamodern Business Bureau come alive, early examples of liminal business crews, and developing a more conscious approach to business and economics.We get into new economic experiments, finding clients who can actually pay for meaningful work, whether we need to be more careful or more courageous in our sources of material wealth, and how to influence the wealthiest families in the world to distribute their resources differently.We also explore finding your role in the liminal ecosystem, connecting people with complementary skill sets, bridging left and right brain ways of knowing, bullshit jobs and our relationship to dopamine, and finding the economic model hidden in genuine inspiration.🔗 LINKS & RESOURCES 🔗The Metamodern Business Bureau — Layman Pascal Make Game A Pay for the Wall — Layman Pascal Layman's Substack Integral Stage podcast Linchpin — Seth Godin🕰️ TIMESTAMPS 🕰️0:00 - Introduction2:40 - Transforming the money and meaning relationship on a personal and societal level5:52 - Making the Metamodern Business Bureau come alive10:39 - Early examples of liminal business crews and what's missing13:42 - Developing a more conscious approach to business and economics education16:45 - New economic experiments20:16 - Finding clients who can pay for your services27:52 - Do we need to be more careful or more courageous in our sources of material wealth?33:23 - How can we influence the wealthiest families to distribute their money?36:50 - Do liminal and metamodern thinkers go over people's heads?38:16 - Finding your role in the liminal ecosystem — simplifying and complexifying41:08 - Connecting people with complementary skill sets and starting businesses44:25 - Nominating liminal business leaders, failing forward, and learning from elders49:30 - Group reflections49:52 - It doesn't need to be perfect — we just need to take action52:31 - Finding the right words to connect the liminal and metamodern space to the conventional world57:07 - Bridging left and right brain ways of knowing1:00:00 - Finding the economic model hidden in inspiration and locating people at the edge of Game A1:03:27 - How to do better business, why we need marketing, bullshit jobs and our relationship to dopamine1:13:22 - Mapping coherence and navigating divergence1:16:32 - What's next?*Subscribe to my YouTube channel to watch the video versions of the Elevating Consciousness Podcast *Subscribe to the Insighter Substack to get in-depth articles on the theory and practice of human transformation through a post-conventional