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EPISODE · May 25, 2026 · 37 MIN

Lead with curiosity

from The Wellness Puzzle Podcast · host Andrew Jobling, Davina Hehn

What if anger isn’t the problem? For years, Davina Hehn tried to manage, suppress, and avoid anger—until she realised something profound: anger itself wasn’t the issue. The real problem was what happened when emotions were ignored, buried, or misunderstood. In this powerful and deeply insightful episode, I speak with mental health coach, anger and conflict specialist, and podcast host, Davina Hehn about what it means to stop apologising for our emotions and start understanding them instead. With more than 15 years of experience in forensic and counselling psychology, Davina has worked with professional athletes, C-suite executives, high-conflict families, and survivors of trauma. Through her groundbreaking SHIFT™ Method and her work as founder of A Steady Space, she helps people break damaging emotional patterns, regulate their emotions, and navigate difficult conversations with greater confidence and compassion. Together, we explore: Why anger is often misunderstood—and what it’s really trying to tell us The hidden cost of suppressing emotions How curiosity can transform conflict into connection Better ways to handle difficult conversations with partners, children, and loved ones Emotional regulation strategies that actually work Why self-awareness is one of the greatest gifts we can develop How to shift from reactive patterns to intentional living Davina’s message is refreshingly honest and empowering: when we stop judging our emotions and start getting curious about them, we open the door to healthier relationships, greater emotional freedom, and a better way to do life. This conversation is insightful, practical, and filled with wisdom for anyone who has struggled with anger, conflict, communication, or emotional overwhelm. Key Takeaway: When we approach our emotions with curiosity instead of criticism, we create space for healing, understanding, and meaningful change. To find out more about Davina, Click Here My website is www.andrewjobling.com.au

In episode 367, I speak with mental health coach, anger & conflict specialist, and podcast host, Davina Hehn. Have you spent years trying to manage your anger, avoid it, or hide it? Davina did too. Until she realized anger wasn’t the problem, suppression was. She’s here to teach what happens when we stop apologising for our emotions and start understanding them instead. Davina helps people break damaging patterns, regulate emotions, and handle tough conversations—whether it’s with their kids, their partners, or in their daily life. When you can lead with curiosity, you can find a better way to do life. This is an essential podcast, not to be missed.

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