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EPISODE · Feb 18, 2020 · 31 MIN

Leaders Don’t Need Perfection—They Need Integrity // Bill & Kathy Towne

from Living Wholehearted Podcast With Jeff and Terra · host Terra & Jeff Mattson - Living Wholehearted

We continue the month of love by sitting down with Bill and Kathy Town, a couple whose four decades of ministry have been marked by integrity, resilience, and a deep reliance on Jesus. Their honesty about leadership, marriage, and parenting gives us a rare, grounded, hope-filled look at what it really takes to serve faithfully for the long haul.We reflect on Bill’s unexpected journey into ministry and Kathy’s powerful transformation from legalism to a heart awakened for marginalized women. Their story reminds us how God pursues us layer by layer, reshaping our assumptions, revealing our blind spots, and calling us to a life that looks like His—humble, surrendered, and grounded in love.We also name the unique pressures ministry leaders carry: constant crisis, blurred boundaries, criticism, isolation, and the temptation to find identity in performance. Bill and Kathy share the practices that have sustained them—soul-level honesty, shared rhythms of vulnerability, wise boundaries, spiritual community, and a humble posture that embraces both human limitation and God’s unwavering grace. Their lives invite us to lead with integrity not by striving harder, but by letting God transform us from the inside out.==========================================================Thanks for partnering with us to help more leaders, just like you, who want to live and lead with integrity at home, work and in the community. Go to livingwholehearted.com and sign up to receive our free leadership tips and updates delivered to you in our monthly newsletter. And, if you’re a girl mom, check out mycourageousgirls.com.   Until next time, be the leader you would follow! Grateful for you,Jeff & Terra To connect with Jeff & Terra Mattson and Living Wholehearted, go to: INSTAGRAM@TerraMattson@Living_Wholehearted@MyCourageousGirls FACEBOOK@WeAreLivingWholehearted@MyCourageousGirls WEBSITESLivingWholehearted.comTerraMattson.com MyCourageousGirls.com RESOURCESShrinking the Integrity Gap Shrinking the Integrity Gap e-Course Courageous: Being Daughters Rooted in GraceDear Mattsons Helping Moms Raise Confident Daughters

We cannot wait for you to glean from this seasoned couple! From depression to handling criticism, to vulnerabilities as a leader, you will learn so much from these two. After close to forty years of pastoral ministry and marriage, Bill and Kathy have three grown daughters and many grandchildren in the mix. They have seen it all and share honestly, openly, and with humility. Bill is currently the lead pastor of Rolling Hills Community Church in Tualatin, OR and Kathy is the founder of Divine Threads, a non-profit dedicated to helping disadvantaged women. Listen carefully - as we think there is a nugget for everyone! Learn more at www.rollinghills.org or www.divinethreads.org.  You can also hear Kathy Towne at InCourage 2020 Gathering on March 13 & 14. She is one of our keynote speakers and is also speaking with her three daughters about what really matters in the end. Visit Incouragegathering.com to learn more and register for this powerful resource conference held at Rolling Hills Community Church.

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