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EPISODE · Jan 30, 2026 · 51 MIN

Leadership Growth in the Mortgage Industry with Michael Naylor | Behind the Frame

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In the 13th episode of Behind the Frame, hosts Jay Duffy and Morgan Watson are joined by Mike Naylor, Co-Founder and CEO of Direct Mortgage Loans (DML). Mike shares the high-stakes journey of building a full-scale mortgage lender from the ground up, starting from a snowy car accident to achieving a massive $1 billion milestone in annual mortgage originations.The "Accidental" Career: Mike reveals how a car accident on the way to a job interview eventually led him to the mortgage business. Starting as an entry-level telemarketer with a phone book and a headset, he learned the business through pure grit and competition.The Power of Partnership: Mike discusses his long-standing partnership with co-founder Ashley Mills. He highlights the importance of aligning individual strengths—such as Ashley’s focus on technology and customer experience versus Mike’s focus on leadership development and recruiting.Surviving Industry Shifts: A major turning point for DML was the strategic shift from a 99% refinance model to a 90% purchase-focused model over two years. This foresight allowed the company to survive and thrive while competitors focused on low-hanging refinance fruit failed.Radical Transparency as a Value: Mike emphasizes that Transparency is the core value of DML. He explains that being an "open book" with employees about margins and challenges builds a culture of trust and empowers team members to solve problems themselves.Hiring for Attitude: When scaling a billion-dollar company, Mike looks for one non-negotiable trait: Attitude. He believes that while knowledge and skills can be taught, a great attitude is what separates world-class per

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