Leadership in Permanent Beta with Jayne Ward

from Pressure Tested · host Chris Steer

The leaders and organizations that thrive are the ones that stay curious, embrace change, and remain committed to growth.In this episode, Amy and Chris sit down with Jayne, VP of People at COCOLAB, to explore Permanent Beta, the mindset of always learning, always growing, and recognizing that none of us is ever a finished product.Together, they discuss why leadership isn’t about chasing perfection, but about building the curiosity, resilience, and adaptability needed to navigate uncertainty. The conversation also explores how embracing continuous growth can strengthen organizational culture, unlock individual and collective potential, and elevate the human skills at the heart of every high-performing team.

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