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EPISODE · Sep 1, 2026 · 52 MIN

Leading in Chaos with Amy Elizabeth Fox: The Inner Skills Leaders Need Now

from The Mark Divine Show · host Mark Divine

What kind of leader do you need to become when knowledge and experience alone are no longer enough?In this episode of the Mark Divine Show, I sit down with Amy Elizabeth Fox to explore the deeper inner development leaders need to navigate a world of accelerating change, uncertainty, and complexity.We unpack the difference between horizontal and vertical development, and why real transformation goes beyond acquiring new skills to changing how you see yourself, others, and the world. Amy also shares how unresolved experiences can quietly shape leadership behavior, especially when stress pushes people toward defensiveness, rigidity, withdrawal, or reactivity.We explore why slowing down and creating space for stillness can strengthen clarity, creativity, connection, and decision-making. We also discuss spiritual intelligence, visualization, the importance of developing deeper relationships at work, and the shift from VUCA to a BANI world.In this episode:• Horizontal vs. vertical leadership development• How unresolved trauma can influence leadership• Why slowing down can improve performance• Stillness, reflection, and emotional regulation• Building stronger relationships and trust at work• Spiritual intelligence in leadership• Using visualization to create new possibilities• Leading in a brittle, anxious, nonlinear, and incomprehensible world• The inner capacities leaders will need in the age of AILearn more about Amy Elizabeth Fox:amyelizabethfox.comLearn more about Leading in Chaos:leadinginchaosbook.comLearn more about Unbeatable Mind:unbeatablemind.comIf this conversation gives you a new perspective on leading through uncertainty, share it with your team or another leader who could benefit, and follow the Mark Divine Show for more conversations on leadership, human performance, and transformation.#MarkDivineShow #AmyElizabethFox #LeadingInChaos #Leadership #VerticalDevelopment

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What kind of leader do you need to become when knowledge and experience alone are no longer enough? In this episode of the Mark Divine Show, I sit down with Amy Elizabeth Fox to explore the deeper inner development leaders need to navigate a world of accelerating change, uncertainty, and complexity. We unpack the difference between horizontal and vertical development, and why real transformation goes beyond acquiring new skills to changing how you see yourself, others, and the world. Amy al...

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