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EPISODE · Apr 13, 2026 · 23 MIN

Leading in Uncertainty: why risk leadership needs to change

from Doing Disasters Differently: The Podcast with Renae Hanvin · host Renae Hanvin

In this episode of Doing Disasters Differently, Renae is joined by Dave Owens, an experienced emergency manager and former police officer who now works with governments and organisations to strengthen risk and crisis leadership. Drawing on more than three decades of experience across emergency management, Dave shares why traditional leadership approaches often fall short in complex and uncertain disaster environments. The conversation explores the shift from tactical response to strategic thinking, and why leaders need new skills to navigate increasingly frequent and compounding disasters. 

In this episode of Doing Disasters Differently, Renae is joined by Dave Owens, an experienced emergency manager and former police officer who now works with governments and organisations to strengthen risk and crisis leadership. Drawing on more than three decades of experience across emergency management, Dave shares why traditional leadership approaches often fall short in complex and uncertain disaster environments. The conversation explores the shift from tactical response to strategic thi...

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