EPISODE · Oct 2, 2025 · 59 MIN
Lean Healthcare Leadership: Humility and Psychological Safety (Carlos Scholz)
from Lean Blog Interviews: Real-World Lean Leadership Conversations in Healthcare and Beyond · host Mark Graban
In Episode 536 of the Lean Blog Interviews Podcast, Mark Graban talks with Carlos Scholz, the new CEO of Episode page with video, transcript, and more In this episode, Carlos shares lessons from his Lean journey—starting with one-piece flow in apparel manufacturing and continuing through large-scale healthcare transformations. He explains why lasting improvement requires leaders to move beyond tools and rapid improvement events to embrace behaviors, principles, and a true Lean management system. We also explore themes from his recent article, Leading Through Disruption: How Healthcare Leaders Can Respond. Carlos discusses the critical role of humility, vulnerability, and psychological safety in today’s leadership, and why leaders must sometimes “unlearn” old command-and-control habits to unlock engagement and creativity across their organizations. Listeners will hear practical insights and real-world examples from Catalysis partners—including UMass Memorial, Ohio Health, and Zuckerberg San Francisco General—that demonstrate what’s possible when leaders fully commit to continuous improvement.
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In this episode, Mark Graban speaks with Carlos Scholz, CEO of Catalysis, about what truly makes Lean healthcare improvement sustainable. Drawing on experience in manufacturing and healthcare, Carlos explains why humility, psychological safety, and leadership behaviors matter more than tools or events. The conversation explores how leaders can move beyond command-and-control habits, create environments where people feel safe to speak up, and build Lean management systems that develop people while improving performance. This episode is especially relevant for healthcare leaders navigating disruption, complexity, and change.
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