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EPISODE · Sep 26, 2025 · 29 MIN

Learning from 5 Billion Kids on Earth with Howard Blumenthal and Dr. Bob Pianta

from Trending In Ed with Mike Palmer · host Palmer Media

On this episode of Trending in Ed, Mike Palmer is joined by Howard Blumenthal and Dr. Bob Pianta, co-authors of the new book, Kids on Earth: The Learning Potential of 5 Billion Minds. We discuss the research and ideas behind their book, which explores how learning takes place for kids in real life and how that can be better translated into schools. We also delve into the distinction between "old school," "not school," and "new school" models of education. Key Takeaways Reinventing Education: We need to recognize that the traditional "old school" model, which relies on an industrial approach and is often disconnected from students' interests, is not working well. The vast majority of our lives' learning takes place in the unstructured "not school" environment, which includes things like the internet, play, and music. The "new school" model seeks to bridge these two ideas by freeing up teachers and resources to allow students to pursue their interests, which increases motivation and engagement. Three Elements of "New School": The new school model is built on three key elements: personal, relational, and active learning. Learning is personal when it is relevant and meaningful to the individual. It is relational because it involves a connection with others, like teachers and peers. Finally, learning is active when kids are deeply and authentically engaged. The Role of AI: We discuss how artificial intelligence will impact education by absorbing tasks that have little to do with teaching and learning, thereby freeing up teachers' time. For students, AI can personalize education in a way that traditional schooling cannot. We argue that instead of banning technology like phones in schools, adults should focus on creating safe learning environments and using these tools effectively. Why You Should Listen > This episode offers a hopeful perspective on the future of education, providing a roadmap for thinking about how we can reinvent our schools to better serve the next generation of learners. > We provide a framework for understanding and discussing the challenges in education today, including the disconnect between traditional teaching methods and how kids actually learn. > We offer insights into how to involve kids in conversations about what matters to them, which is a crucial step in creating a more relevant and engaging learning experience. If you like what you heard, be sure to subscribe and tell your friends. You can find us on all the major podcast platforms. Video episodes are on Youtube and Spotify. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:45 Bob Pianta's Career Journey 01:58 Howard Blumenthal's Media Career and Global Education 03:19 The Genesis of 'Kids on Earth '08:00 Old School, New School, and Not School Framework 20:05 The Role of AI in Education 27:23 Global Perspectives and Future of Education 27:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

On this episode of Trending in Ed, Mike Palmer is joined by Howard Blumenthal and Dr. Bob Pianta, co-authors of the new book, Kids on Earth: The Learning Potential of 5 Billion Minds. We discuss the research and ideas behind their book, which explores how learning takes place for kids in real life and how that can be better translated into schools. We also delve into the distinction between "old school," "not school," and "new school" models of education. Key Takeaways Reinventing Education: We need to recognize that the traditional "old school" model, which relies on an industrial approach and is often disconnected from students' interests, is not working well. The vast majority of our lives' learning takes place in the unstructured "not school" environment, which includes things like the internet, play, and music. The "new school" model seeks to bridge these two ideas by freeing up teachers and resources to allow students to pursue their interests, which increases motivation and engagement. Three Elements of "New School": The new school model is built on three key elements: personal, relational, and active learning. Learning is personal when it is relevant and meaningful to the individual. It is relational because it involves a connection with others, like teachers and peers. Finally, learning is active when kids are deeply and authentically engaged. The Role of AI: We discuss how artificial intelligence will impact education by absorbing tasks that have little to do with teaching and learning, thereby freeing up teachers' time. For students, AI can personalize education in a way that traditional schooling cannot. We argue that instead of banning technology like phones in schools, adults should focus on creating safe learning environments and using these tools effectively. Why You Should Listen > This episode offers a hopeful perspective on the future of education, providing a roadmap for thinking about how we can reinvent our schools to better serve the next generation of learners. > We provide a framework for understanding and discussing the challenges in education today, including the disconnect between traditional teaching methods and how kids actually learn. > We offer insights into how to involve kids in conversations about what matters to them, which is a crucial step in creating a more relevant and engaging learning experience. If you like what you heard, be sure to subscribe and tell your friends. You can find us on all the major podcast platforms. Video episodes are on Youtube and Spotify. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Welcome 00:45 Bob Pianta's Career Journey 01:58 Howard Blumenthal's Media Career and Global Education 03:19 The Genesis of 'Kids on Earth '08:00 Old School, New School, and Not School Framework 20:05 The Role of AI in Education 27:23 Global Perspectives and Future of Education 27:57 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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