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EPISODE · Aug 7, 2026 · 21 MIN

Learning is Remembering: The Outer, Inner, and Secret Teachers

from Buddhism Beyond Belief with Susan Piver · host Susan Piver

Send us Fan MailHow do we recognize a true teacher? In this episode I talk about the outer teacher, the inner teacher, and the secret teacher. Along the way I share a story from teaching the Heart Sutra, reflect on an unexpected lesson about joy, and use a piece of music to show how wisdom can reach us through content, direct experience, and the context in which it all unfolds.Highlights:What the outer, inner, and secret teacher represent in Buddhist practiceWhy real learning is often based in recognition rather than picking up new informationHow expectations color the voice of the inner teacherA story from a Heart Sutra retreat and an unexpected teaching on joyHow music shows three different ways of knowingWhy the outer teacher's job is to point us toward the wisdom we already haveMentioned in this episode: The Heart SutraWatch this episode on videoIf you’d like to watch the podcast, the video version is here.My new book is now availableInexplicable Magic: Meditation for Mystics, is available for purchase. Explore the spiritual path through 7 principles which run counter to conventional wisdom on mindfulness. Learn more and buy your copy here.If you enjoyed this episode:Please rate, review, and share it with a friend who’s curious about mindfulness, spiritual commitment, or the Buddhist path.For more on Buddhist teachings and how our humanity isn’t necessarily in our way, sign up for my free weekly newsletter or join the Open Heart Project sangha for more connection with community and with me.If this podcast has been meaningful to you, it would be great if you would subscribe, give it a five star rating and share it with a friend. To join or learn more about The Open Heart Project please visit openheartproject.com.Thoughts? Email us at [email protected] by Citizens of SoundMusic by: Derek O'Brien©Open Heart Project 

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