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EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 20 MIN

Learning Rates Regulate Catastrophic Overtraining

from Mechanical Dreams · host Mechanical Dirk

In this episode: • Introduction to Catastrophic Overtraining: Linda and Professor Norris introduce the paper and the counterintuitive phenomenon where better pretraining leads to worse catastrophic forgetting. • Feature Drift and Optimization Regimes: The hosts discuss how the supervised finetuning learning rate acts as an implicit regularizer, introducing the Mean Principal Angle to measure feature drift. • Sharpness and the Edge of Stability: Linda connects the mystery of overtraining to pretraining learning rate decay, explaining how model sharpness amplifies the finetuning learning rate. • Practical Takeaways for LLM Training: Professor Norris and Linda summarize the actionable advice from the paper, including lowering SFT learning rates and rethinking pretraining schedules.

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