EPISODE · Dec 1, 2025 · 45 MIN
“Leave no survivors”
from Deadline: White House · host Rear Admiral William Baumgartner, Fmr. Senator Claire McCaskill, Nicolle Wallace, Andrew Weissmann, Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling
Nicolle Wallace covers Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s order to the military to leave no survivors on a strike against boats in the Caribbean. Reporting in The Washington Post suggests that current and former members of the military are unsure if all the people on the targeted boat were guilty of drug trafficking —Hegseth’s primary justification for the strikes. While the Defense Department carries out boat strikes in the name of fighting drug trafficking, Nicolle, Andrew Weissmann, and Former Senator Claire McCaskill discuss Trump’s pardon of former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez. Hernandez was found guilty of shipping “more than 500 tons of cocaine into the United States,” according to The New York Times.For more, follow us on Instagram @deadlinewhTo listen to this show and other MS NOW podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. For more from Nicolle, follow and download her podcast, “The Best People with Nicolle Wallace,” wherever you get your podcasts.To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Nicolle Wallace breaks down Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s military order to “kill them all” on the first boat strike in the Caribbean. These boat strikes were carried out on suspicion of drug trafficking.
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