Leif Dreizler -- Tactical tips to shift engineering right

Leif Dreizler is the manager of the Product Security team at Segment. Leif got his start in the security industry at Redspin doing security consulting work and was later an early employee at Bugcrowd. He helps organize the Bay Area OWASP Chapter, the LocoMocoSec Conference, and the AppSec California conference. Leif caught our attention when he published an article called Shifting Engineering Right: What security engineers can learn from DevSecOps. In this interview, we focus in on the tactical tips and takeaways from the article, or how you as a security person can shift engineering right. We hope you enjoy this conversation with... Leif Driezler.The Application Security Podcast is brought to you by Security Journey.About Security JourneyLeif Dreizler is the manager of the product security team at Segment.→ Learn more about Security JourneyConnect with Leif Dreizler:→ Shifting Engineering Right: What security engineers can learn from DevSecOps→ SegmentMentioned in this episode:→ Shifting Engineering Right: What security engineers can learn from DevSecOps→ Segment→ BugcrowdFollow the Application Security Podcast:➜ Home➜ X➜ LinkedIn➜ YouTube➜ Instagram➜ FacebookChapters:00:00 Meet Leif Dreizler: Tactical tips to shift engineering right01:49 We're going to talk about an article that I know a05:32 It's funny, I was watching a debate yesterday on the OWASP06:30 Let's jump into the article then. And I wanted to start08:38 That's certainly what caught my attention when I started— when I12:38 Sure, sure. So Leif, you have at the end of the18:36 Leif, when you think stakeholders now, I'm curious, what's your definition21:15 I got a question about this because I'm curious to get39:05 What's the importance of empathy then43:37 You've definitely given us lots of additional things to think about