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EPISODE · Feb 10, 2026 · 1H 9M

Len Necefer

from On Knowing On Going · host Forrest Shearer

For this episode Forrest travels to the Sonoran Desert to head into the unknown on a bike packing trip with Len Necefer. These two have been striking out on missions through the Southwest for years and this was a chance for them to reconnect in one of Len’s favorite places. The trip started at Len’s place in Tucson, where they sat down to record the podcast in his garage, surrounded by bikes, pack rafts and a stack of equipment for all manner of adventures. Forrest dives into Len’s upbringing, his Navajo roots, the early stages of his career and how he’s now more focused on activism via storytelling. It’s an in-depth look at Len's extraordinary life and one of the most entertaining conversations of the series. Thanks to the sponsors that helped support this show: Yeti ⁠⁠⁠Fat Tire⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Vuarnet⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Hestra⁠⁠

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