Leon Panetta with Larry Mantle: Power Without Order - America and the New Global Chaos

In this conversation from the America at a Crossroads series, former U.S. Secretary of Defense and CIA Director Leon Panetta joins Larry Mantle, host of NPR’s AirTalk, to examine the shifting global landscape and the challenges facing American leadership in an era of renewed power politics. Drawing on decades of experience in national security and government, Panetta discusses how geopolitical tensions are reshaping international relations—from Ukraine and China to Venezuela and Greenland—and what these developments mean for the future of U.S. foreign policy and global stability. The discussion explores key questions including: • How is the global balance of power changing? • What challenges does the United States face in responding to rising geopolitical tensions? • What lessons from past administrations can guide today’s foreign policy decisions? With insight from one of the nation’s most experienced national security leaders, this conversation provides perspective on the strategic realities shaping today’s international environment.