Leonardus Nugraha on WordPress, Photography, and Life with Big Dogs in Bogor

Send us Fan MailAn unexpected conversation with a guy who probably knows it's not a good idea to walk dogs and ride his bike at the same time. Here, we have an unexpected conversation between Bud and Leo, a personable and engaging guest from Indonesia. Initially, Leo discusses his name pronunciation and his move from Jakarta to Bogor, emphasizing Jakarta's traffic and pollution contrast with Bogor's cooler, hilly environment. The discussion then shifts to Leo's education, detailing his 14-year stint at a Catholic school and his tertiary education journey spanning Indonesia and Malaysia in the field of Business Management and International Business.Leo also shares details about his personal life, including his experiences with owning and managing two large dogs, a Golden Retriever and a mixed Kintamani-Terrier, during the pandemic. He humorously describes how walking his dogs often appears as though the dogs are walking him. The conversation touches on Leo's cycling hobby, where he reveals his long-term commitment to cycling since 2008 and his adaptation to indoor training due to a busy schedule.As the chat continues, Leo mentions a cultural stigma towards dating apps in Indonesia and discusses his reluctance to rush into relationships. He also talks about his limited but meaningful use of social media platforms like LinkedIn and Instagram while admitting not being an early adopter of newer platforms like Blue Sky. In the professional context, Leo talks about his journey with Hostinger and his work with WordPress, narrating how his role as a writer evolved after covering updates for WordPress 5.9, eventually enjoying a fruitful career despite the challenges posed by the pandemic.Photography is another passion for Leo, where he enjoys capturing landscapes, streets, and transportation objects, often using a full-frame mirrorless camera. He has traveled to the United States for WordCamp events, where he visited places like Portland, Oregon, and the tri-state area around Maryland. Leo shares his reaction to seeing the White House, which he found larger than expected compared to media portrayals.Towards the end, Bud queries Leo about his acquaintances, leading to the recommendation of Nadia Maya Ardiani, a significant contributor to the WordPress training team in Indonesia. Leo believes she has interesting stories that would add value to the podcast. The episode concludes on a high note with mutual appreciation between Bud and Leo, reflecting the camaraderie shared during the interview.