Lessons from Lincoln with John Avlon

This week, for our first episode after the birthday of Abraham Lincoln, I chat with author and CNN senior political analyst John Avlon about Lincoln's underappreciated plan for post-Civil War peace--and how we can apply its lessons today. Avlon's new book, Lincoln and the Fight for Peace, explores both how Lincoln's character fostered his vision for achieving a just and secure peace after the Civil War and how Lincoln's plans informed future peacemakers.We spoke about popular applied history and why it matters, Lincoln's qualities and their application to issues of war and peace, Andrew Johnson's disastrous turn away from Lincoln's plan for Reconstruction and its effects, and the influence of Lincoln's peace vision on everyone from Woodrow Wilson to Lucius Clay to Douglas MacArthur.Chatter is a production of Lawfare and Goat Rodeo. This episode was produced and edited by Cara Shillenn of Goat Rodeo with engineering assistance from Ian Enright. Podcast theme by David Priess, featuring music created using Groovepad.Among the works cited in this episode:Lincoln and the Fight for Peace by John AvlonWashington's Farewell: The Founding Father's Warning to Future Generations by John AvlonCNN's Reality Check with John AvlonLincoln's Code: The Laws of War in American History by John Fabian Witt Lincoln by David Herbert DonaldAbraham Lincoln, A Life (two volumes) by Michael Burlingame9/11 Memorialization with Marita Sturken, Chatter Podcast, January 25, 2022Wingnuts: Extremism in the Age of Obama by John AvlonAccidental Presidents: Eight Men Who Changed America by Jared Cohen Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.