EPISODE · Oct 19, 2025 · 51 MIN
Lessons From the Cockpit: Why Culture Eats Checklists for Breakfast
from The Safety Spotlight · host BIS Safety
In this episode of Safety Spotlight, we sit down with Jeff “Odie” Espenship, former A-10 Warthog pilot and founder of Target Leadership, for an unforgettable conversation about safety, culture, and the choices that define leadership.Odie shares hard-earned lessons from 10,000 feet up and from rock bottom, revealing how the smallest decisions can change everything. His message is clear: safety isn’t about rules, it’s about character, empathy, and accountability when it matters most.What You’ll Learn:From Cockpit to Culture: How Odie went from airshows to safety keynotes, and why culture eats checklists for breakfastThe Shortcut That Changed Everything: The devastating true story of one small deviation and the origin of Jeff’s missionNormalization of Deviance: Why “just this once” is never just onceLeadership Is Emotional: If you want people to care about safety, start with empathy, not enforcementWhat Real Leadership Looks Like: It’s not about titles, it’s about doing the right thing when no one is watchingSee Odie’s story and many more at https://bissafety.ca/safety-spotlight-podcasts.
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