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Lethal Weapon 2. Wow, it's next. Mel Gibson and Danny Glover are coming your way. Everybody's favorite weapon is back.
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Lethal Weapon 2. I'm not a cop tonight, Roger. It's personal. Rated R.
Now playing at a theater near you. All right, Chris Ryan is here. Van Lathan is here. It was just me and Chris for Lethal Weapon 1.
We brought in the big guns for Lethal Weapon 2. Lethal Weapon 2 is just a better movie. As much as I love Lethal Weapon 1, Lethal Weapon 2, one of the greatest sequels of all time. We've litigated this before on the podcast, but I'm just gonna do it again.
Because our argument is great. Godfather 2 is the greatest sequel of all time. If you're doing the Mount Rushmore, Terminator 2 is in there. I think that's when we brought this back up again.
Lethal Weapon 2, Dark Knight, Aliens, Before Sunset, Empire Strikes Back. And there's maybe one or two more. Van, what's your Mount Rushmore? Is Lethal Weapon 2 on it?
You don't even have to give me the other three. Is Lethal Weapon 2 on the Mount Rushmore? You know what? It wasn't before this rewatch.
I gotta be honest with you. I had never thought about it before. But it is now. I had never thought about it before.
But Lethal Weapon 2 is superior to the first in almost every way. You're right about that. But you inceptioned that into my mind. I never thought about it before.
Chris, I was shocked by how good this movie was. This movie came out 32 years ago. And it's like they basically perfected the 80s action movie. They took all the pieces.
And we've been covering them a lot on the rewatchables. They took all the pieces that worked, dumped all the pieces that didn't work. There's no dead spots in this movie. It fucking moves.
I was writing down most rewatchable scenes. I'm like, am I going to have 20 rewatchable scenes? I just was shocked by how good this was. What was your reaction rewatching?
They keyed in on this thing that Glover and Gibson probably uniquely are suited to do with each other because they obviously adore one another, where they basically just make a 1940s screwball comedy on top of a cop action movie. Like the speed of the dialogue, the speed of the performances. These guys are like psychic with each other. It's like watching two guys who played a jazz combo for their whole lives be together on screen.
And when you watch it, you're like, I hadn't... You realize that there are jokes that you never noticed, even if you've watched the movie a hundred times in your life. Van, is it complicated? I don't want to dive into the whole Mel Gibson thing, but he's so unbelievable in this movie.
It's like, he's, in my opinion, probably the best person you could have in an action movie where he combines like the every guy thing with, he's an unbelievable athlete. He's fucking funny. You really do believe he can beat anybody in a fight. He's, he managed to kind of carry himself almost like LeBron in round four of the bubble playoffs where just like, he's got seven nagging injuries, but you can kind of feel them all in the last half hour of the movie.
It's basically, he checks every box. I kind of feel like this is why this movie is not discussed because all the shit that happened with him and he gets canceled. He might've been one of the first people that gets canceled. So we have this weird, complicated relationship with his film library and yet he's fantastic in this movie.
And rewatching this again, how did you deal with that in your head? Well, I had this, this little skit play out where Mel Gibson went to the producers of the movie and he was like, for the sequel, I want there to be an apartheid subplot. And then they didn't like the apartheid subplot that he thought they were gonna write. It's like, because the movie is weirdly an anti-racist movie.
It's railing on those guys and their power and all of that. So when I watched it, I'm like, I get the same feeling that I get with any of these, man. I get like, damn, you fucked it up, dog. You fucked up Martin Riggs for me because like, to your point, he is perfect.
This is an action comedy without a comedian. Most of these big action comedies that we see, they have a comedian in them. If you're talking about your Rush Hours and your Beverly Hills Cop and your films like that, this movie didn't need one. Like this, it's so well-written.
The chemistry is so undeniable between the leads. And you have a, a number one bonafide movie star in your lead position. Charismatic, vulnerable, all of that by Mel Gibson. And then he went to Moonshadows a couple of decades later and fucked it up.
But I'm gonna pretend like he didn't even do that for the sake of this and just move on from it. But yeah, of course I felt that. You feel a little bit of a, uh, you feel a little sad watching it as you're having the great time that you're having. Yeah, on the scale of one to OJ and the Naked Gun of how it affects the rewatch, it's probably, you forget about the Mel Gibson stuff as it, you know, and he's kind of bounced back.
Weirdly, he's popped into some movies, but I just was watching this thinking like, wow, this guy was a borderline unicorn. All the stuff Bruce Willis does in Die Hard, and I think Bruce Willis is unbelievable in Die Hard, but Gibson is taking all that. Plus he's doing nine other things and you feel bad for him. You're worried about him.
You're kind of worried for his sanity that he might snap. Um, you totally believe he can get out of any situation. He's fearless. What else am I missing, Chris?
It's like the difference between all these other 80s action movies that use basically the same motivation, which is either a threat or the loss of your family. So like, you know, so many other like Schwarzenegger movies where it's just like, you came after my daughter and like that is what's motivating him to just go buck wild on people. You get the kitchen scene in Lethal Weapon 2 where he's making chili and he just tells the gold pen story. And you're just kind of like, I'm like really like affected by this.
This is crazy. This is Lethal Weapon 2 and I've kind of like stopped everything I'm doing and I'm just watching Gibson kind of like, not quite tear up, but it's like a very real human moment when Darlene loves like, yeah, I didn't really mean, you know, I didn't mean to pry. He's like, well, we've never talked about it. And then he tells the story and you're like, holy shit, I can kind of see exactly where Martin Riggs kind of emerges from out of this incredible tragedy.
Yeah, he does a good job of kind of pocketing the damage and then having it spill out in really realistic ways versus like the typical Hollywood hitting over the head with, hey, this guy's damaged. Here's the scene of him sadly looking at pictures of his dead wife and all that stuff. It's really well handled. I wrote down...
Even in a small movie, a moment in that scene, just real quick. When he reaches for the pin, like notice when, when she's got the pin, when he reaches for the pin, the pin might've well been Thor's hammer. It was so heavy in his hand. Like that's a brilliant scene.
I watched it three or four times last night. When he reaches for the pin, he's like, oh my God. Like he's reaching for all of that grief and all of that trauma. He's like, oh, I keep losing this.
Yeah. Yeah, I keep like, I keep losing it really because he keeps flirting with moving on. Like he keeps almost losing it because he's got a new family. He's got a new purpose, but every time he tries, if the pin, like it pops back up and he has to grab it again.
It's like amazing. The movie really is fucking amazing. I wrote down, Pesci doesn't show up. It's like 27 minutes.
And I wrote that at the 25 minute mark. It's unbelievable how good the first 25 minutes of this. And Pesci hasn't even shown up yet. Pesci, we can talk about this now.
He, And he's like, oh, well, sick, dude. I didn't know they made those. And then he's like, I bet the kid has an automatic. Like, it's just like, he's bouncing in between those two guys.
And you can just tell they're having the time of their lives. It's really great. And I was looking at the box office mojo for this year. And man, what do we do to deserve 1989?
Just so many winners, so many bangers. Batman came out that year. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade, which I know Van loves. Lethal Weapon 2 was the third biggest movie of 89.
We had the Look Who's Talking, Honey, I Shrunk the Kids combo. Back to the Future 2, Ghostbusters 2. It's funny, this year is being criticized as like, all right, why are we doing all these sequels? A lot of the sequels are really good.
And we also had We Drive Miss Daisy, We Parenthood, Dead Poets Society, When Harry Met Sally, War of the Roses, Steel Magnolias, Christmas Vacation, Born on the Fourth of July, Field of Dreams, Hang On Cash, Van's favorite, Harlem Nights. I love Harlem Nights. See Love, Pacino's comeback. Major League.
It just goes on and on. Like 10, 15 rewatchables in there. Oh my God. Yo, I just got to be real.
Are we getting... Is it a function of... serious question. Tangent.
Is it a function of us getting older? Or is it... Or do they just not make them like they used to? No, no, this is 100%.
This is not a Charles Barkley on the TNT set complaining about too many 3s. They don't make movies like this anymore. Think about how many different genres Bill just rattled off. And think about how many of those movies are essentially like either a romantic comedy or just like a good drama like Dead Poets or something like that.
That's just movies that they just don't make anymore. By the way, I'm going to keep going. Lean on Me, Weekend at Bernie's, Roadhouse, Do the Right Thing. Come on, man.
Glory, Sex, Lies, Video Tape, Lock Up, Say Anything. I mean, it's just... It's an amazing run. And I think part of it is you have a lot of the directors who were influenced by the 70s guys finally able to make movies like Spike and Cameron Crowe and people like that.
But then you also just... You know, there was more... Oh, Fabulous Baker Boys was in there too. Crimes and Misdemeanors.
Yeah, this is... 89 is just bonkers. You know, like there was just so much less competition for attention back then. Because I still so distinctly remember the pandemonium around Batman when it came out.
And like the lines down the block to get into it. And it was like, movies were pretty much like the central cultural experience you could have back then. You know what I mean? Like, rap was exploding and there were different musics that were like obviously growing at that point.
But like, I feel like that was like pre-TV being like, oh, you got to stay home and watch this great TV show. It was like, you went to the movies. That's what people did. You went to the movies pretty much every weekend.
I was looking at Premiere Magazine. They do the fall movie preview issue and they had it for 1990. So I was just thumbing through it. It got to the holiday part and there were like 20 movies.
It was like Godfather 3, Goodfellas. It just kept going. I'm like, oh my God. How did we have...
Now we would be lucky if we had three movies that weren't comic. Van, I don't mean to piss on comic book movies. I know you love them. No, it's been...
It's getting to be too much. I'm longing for the days of Tango and Cash. Tango and Cash is a delightful, R-rated romp. It's a mutated baby of sort of Lethal Weapon and Beverly Hills Cop.
But it still worked. It's like one of my favorite films. And it would be the 20th or 30th best movie on the list that you just rattle off. And they just simply don't make films like that anymore.
Every film has to be IP. Every film has to be... It's like almost every film is a... The movies are not movies anymore.
They're more marketing engines for either the stars of the films or the IP that they represent. And I know it feels weird for me to be railing on this as a 41-year-old guy. Everybody else is like, hey, fuck you. But I'm saying, like, it just...
Nobody comes up with a cool idea and then goes to make a movie anymore. They go, okay, let's take your idea and then use it to reboot some IP that we've had 15, 20 years ago. It's just... And that's not me being a dick.
I'm just saying that's a really diverse, in terms of story at least, group of films that were executed with a lot of heart. People just went out there to tell a story. It's like, it's a different time. Well, most important, Van, your resume has been accepted for the Tango and Cash.
Oh my God. I can't imagine. It's an incredible 20-second resume hand-in, and it's been accepted. Because that movie is off the chains.
Hey, producer Craig, have you seen Tango and Cash? No, I haven't. Oh my God. It's one of the great prison movies of all time.
It's also one of the great... Wait a second, wait a second. What is the plot of this movie? I know.
Where they're just like, they go back into prison and then it's like... Carrie Fisher is Stallone's sister in that movie, right? Yeah, Kurt Russell. Oh my God.
It's really... It's a special movie. Anyway, with Lethal Weapon, we have to mention two more things. I mean, the context of every weekend, there's some banger coming out.
And for this movie to kind of climb above the heap and become the third biggest movie that year is no small achievement. There were a lot of good ones. The villains in this movie. This is too good for What's Age the Best.
Thank you so much for doing this. I was worried that if I said it, you'd be like, oh, save it, save it. No, it's too good. I mean, Raiders of the Lost Ark, that's where we probably peaked with villains.
We actually have an arc melting all of them at the end of the movie. Spoiler alert. This one, South African Aryan bad guys capped off with the leader of it, who's just the most evil, perfect, I hate this guy guy I think we've ever had. And then he's got his henchmen.
He's got literally the Hitler haircut. He's got the comb-over. He's missing everything but like a little wispy mustache. And it's just, they nail it.
The accents are great. What are they missing? Is there any holes in their villains making this? No, they don't have it.
There's no nuance. There's no ambiguity. There's no, well, maybe these guys had a point. There's no like, oh, they're cool, like Hans Gruber.
These are pieces of shit that you want Riggs to fuck up. Like, you want him to fuck them up. And it is like, it's so thrilling when he fucking brings the stilt house down. You're like, get in there, ass Riggs, do it.
Yeah, they're just basically, they have evil accents and a lot of money. I don't really understand any other thing they have going on as villains. This is just the original Bitcoin villain. There's just trunks full of stuff and yachts.
And I guess they're stealing stuff. It's not really explored. I don't really care. It's like having 40 Bond villains at once, right then?
Yeah, and they're using very simple terms to explain their evil nature to the audience. They're rich. They want to get richer. They don't care about the rules.
And they're racist. Those are the reasons why you hate these guys. We don't need to go back into what happened to them in childhood and make them three-dimensional characters. They're cutting corners and they hate black people.
Like, boom. Riggs is the opposite of them. Riggs loves black people. He's a member of a black family.
Really, there's a television show here where Riggs actually gets adopted by Roger in some reverse fucking different strokes type shit. Like, he's a member of their family. It's like all of us together. It's like Riggs.
It's chili night. Riggs is cooking again. Riggs is cooking again. He's putting, like, produce into the chili.
He's cutting up big-ass onions that you don't believe is good. Anyway, so yeah. And it just gives it to you simple. These guys are gonna win.
These guys are gonna lose. Boom. I love that they were like, hey, did we make these guys evil enough? And they have a meeting.
Yeah, no, they actually... No Mustache Hitler was actually the guy who killed Riggs' wife. It's so weird because you get to that point and you're just like, man, I hate these guys. Like, there's no...
I have no mixed feelings. There's no, like... You won me over. You have my hatred.
You're so cool in this movie. It's like, you're just like, I cannot wait for these guys to get mowed down. And then it's like, and then they also killed Vicky. You know, I can't believe it.
It's a shame because I think there was a ton of potential for racist That's how it played out. Van, good decision not to kill Riggs, I'm guessing? And your minder, would you have gone for the glory of just like the unbelievable Toy Story 3 type ending and that's it? No, of course it was a good decision not to kill Riggs.
And by the way, Chris, some of the nerd contingent is going to be all over you about that Iron Man 3 take. It's a very controversial movie. I happen to love it, but some people- Is that the hipster take? It's like the Iron Man 3.
Nope, not to me. I think it's great, but some people are going to be like, I hate Iron Man 3. The only good Iron Man was Iron Man 1. I liked it, but you know, it's very controversial.
I would just wish I could have been a fly on the wall when Donner first got the script for Play Dirty for the Shane Black version of this. And there is allegedly a scene where a plane full of cocaine explodes over Los Angeles, coating LA in like a dusting of cocaine. And what Donner would just be like, huh. So, okay.
And he just gets out his red marker. He's like, well, we'll just put a pin in this one and maybe we come back to it. Shane Black's like, and it will be real cocaine, too. We're not using sugar.
Oh, by the way, I went to a party at Shane Black's house for New Year's one year. What movie do you think he had the most memorabilia of all throughout his house? I would say Last Boy Scout. It was Iron Man 3.
Oh, what was the party like? Well, Chris, I think you've been invited with the Midnight Boys for Iron Man 3. I think you earned your invitation. We're going to make it Tango and Cash at Shane Black's house.
Right. New Year's Eve, I think like 2018 or something like that. It was funny. It was awful.
So this movie, they spent $30 million. It would have been a lot more if they blew up a plane of cocaine. It made $227.9 million, led to a couple more sequels, both of which were made in the 90s. Roger Ebert, three and a half stars.
Of course. Quote, Lethal Weapon 2 is that rarity, a sequel with most of the same qualities as the original. I agree. I would even say that it had better qualities than the original.
But Rodge was in. Can I just make one statement about the one versus two thing? Yeah, go. On paper, Lethal Weapon 1 is a more coherent movie than Lethal Weapon 2.
Like, I understand why everybody's like, Lethal Weapon 2 dusts Lethal Weapon 1. It's a much more fun hang. It's a much funnier movie. It's got like these incredible sequences.
I'm just saying that like the story of Lethal Weapon 1 does make more sense than, like, why are the, like, so these South African guys are just operating without impunity, bringing in cocaine, killing cops' lives, like having gunfights, having Uzis, and like they just throw up their card and say diplomatic immunity, and now there's a fight at this shipyard. Like, Lethal Weapon 1 actually kind of makes sense. I think that's a fair point. I think so, too.
Yeah, and you also think like they would have at least hinted at the South Africans in Lethal Weapon 1. Right. Even as a throwaway line. I think the reason why people love Lethal Weapon 2 more, a lot of it has to do with just the character of Riggs himself.
That just Riggs in the first film was such a live wire and such an unpredictable guy, right? So crazy that it, like, it's heartwarming to see him settle in in this movie. And even though he's settled in, there's, he's still as fierce. He's still as brave.
It's just like you watch it and you, even to watch the scene where they're watching the condom commercial, which is a fucking fantastic scene. So good. It's just fun to watch that guy get drawn back into reality with this family. And even as I say this, once again, Mel, why did you fuck this up, man?
Why did you fuck it up? I watched that scene. It's so good. It's so believable.
I'm like, Mel, why? Why, Mel? Why? Anyway.
That, that'll be our social media breakout for this, where Van just going, why, Mel? Why? Mel. I can't not do it.
Mel, Mel Gibson said the single most racist thing I've ever heard anybody say. It is the single most racist thing. Mel Gibson told Oksana, if you get blanked by a pack of, a pack of n-words, a pack, like we run around in packs. Mel reduced us to wolves in Yellowstone.
Mel. Anyway, love the movie, though. Let's, let's talk about the categories. Most rewatchable scene.
Goddamn, this movie comes out flying. Yeah. You know, sometimes with rewatchable movies, it's almost better to catch them 25 minutes in. The 48 hours is like that.
You kind of want to catch it right when he's going to visit Reggie Hammond. But all the way through with action movies, it's okay if you skip the first 15, 20. Die Hard's like that, too. Die Hard, it's like, you really want him when he's in the Nakatomi Tower.
Maybe he's cleaning up in Bonnie Bedelia's office, and then that's where you want to kind of join it. This one, you want to join it when you see the opening credits. You're like, we're off right away. The opening car chase, it's great.
We get to see Mel Gibson running and contemplate his place in the great actor movie running pantheon, which I think he's the Usain Bolt of actors. It's him and Terminator 2 guy in the finals. Robert Patrick. Yeah, Tom Cruise.
Tom Cruise. Tough semifinals loss for Cruise to Robert Patrick. I would actually say there's a later arriving, and again, recency bias, John David Washington case to be made. Oh, I agree.
Oh, that's a good one. It's not fair. He played football. God.
I'm just saying, he's like flushing ass. You know who else runs a lot? Like Snipes. Snipes is a good runner.
Snipes used to get his motor on, too. Good runner. Eddie Murphy, secretly a pretty good runner. He had that kind of a jog sprint thing that he had in a couple of different movies that I enjoyed.
Anyway, this opening car chase, we get Mel Gibson running, get an awesome Gibson Glover 1940s comedy cop argument. And I fucking love when they go into the police station, and the guys start betting. And the guys, and they make the bet, and he's like, wait a second, I know nothing about the WebStation wagon. The bet's off.
It kills me. Just like all the nuances of those cops they nail with the rubbers and all that stuff. That's one of the best parts of this movie. Anyway, that opening car chase is amazing.
And then it goes right to the straitjacket scene. How'd you do that, man? Well, I dislocated my shoulder one time, and I can just do whatever I want. Well, goddamn, man, does that hurt?
Yeah, it does, but not as much as when I put it back in. Oh, my God, that was so good. Our next scene, after we do this whole giant amazing car chase, is him trying to get out of a straitjacket. Everybody talks about, like, are video games bad for kids?
Is movie violence bad for kids? Let me tell you something. Being an impressionable teenager when I saw this movie and being like, wait, can I pop my shoulder out and pop it back in again? That seems fucking awesome.
That's a terrible, terrible, terrible example to set for kids. Yeah, that's fair. I love that scene. I don't even know how they came up with this, but it's so great for so many levels.
It shows how athletic, how much pain he can endure. Also, him in a straitjacket. It's Chekhov's shoulder dislocation because he uses it when he gets almost drowned. Absolutely, they come back to it.
Also, he's a masochist a little bit. Like, he goes, and that's why I love the little trope of the psychiatrist popping up in every scene. Every time he does something crazy, almost like she's Jimmy Cricket or something. But he's willing to do that on a whim for a bet to win.
He's willing to put himself through that type of pain. So think about the type of pain he's willing to put himself through for something that's righteous or something that matters. If he'll just do that on a random day at the station, you know? One thing I'd love to hear if we have any any listeners who may have served in like the police force in the 80s.
Is, was it, was it a truism that like if a bunch of downtown was destroyed in a car chase, that the police department was liable for the bill? Because in this movie and in Beverly Hills Cop, the captain's like, you know how much damage you caused downtown? And now the department's got to pay for it. It's like, is that how that works?
Like does the department have to pay for all the mailboxes that got destroyed and all the farmer's markets that got driven through in action movies? Yeah, you have that. And then also, why were 80 Action movie scene premises, I think, of all time. Yep.
Everyone's worst nightmare to sit on a toilet that has a bomb on it after you've finished your business. I think it's way up there, at least for me. I don't know about you guys. Maybe it's lower for you guys.
How long was he there? I have like 12 hours? 18 hours? Yeah, they say.
Because his legs are... His legs are numb. They don't really hint at what the smell situation is there. That's the thing that always jumped out at me, is like, He's got a toilet full of shit.
And everybody's coming in there acting like they don't smell anything. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off? The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper.
But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours. None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose.
What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates... Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off?
The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper. But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours.
None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose. What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates...
Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off? The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper.
But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours. None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose.
What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates... Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off?
The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper. But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours.
None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose. What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates...
Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off? The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper.
But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours. None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose.
What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates... Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off?
The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper. But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours.
None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose. What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates...
Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off? The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper.
But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours. None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose.
What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates... Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off?
The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper. But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours.
None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose. What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates...
Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off? The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper.
But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours. None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose.
What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates... Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off?
The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper. But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours.
None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose. What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 hours, like that violates...
Just Google, sit on the toilet for five hours. Why don't we all just agree that he makes the decision that he can flush and it won't set the bomb off? The only thing that will get set the bomb off is if he stands up. No, because he went to go, he noticed the toilet paper, which means he was reaching for the toilet paper.
But he doesn't say, As I was sitting down, I noticed this on the toilet paper. It was that I'm reaching for the toilet paper, which means he was sitting on his own stink bomb for like 12, 18 hours. None of the characters mentioned this. I just think it's a really weird choice to not have somebody be like, at least like wave something in front of their nose.
What kind of hemorrhoid does Glover get from that? 18 Okay, I got something that I only think about because I did the Wire podcast, okay? Nail guns. Yeah.
Yes. This was the first time I had ever in life seen a nail gun. I didn't know, and I think they introduced nail guns like that because not a lot of people had seen nail guns. That's why the nail gun is such a big device in another rewatchable scene where they fight in his scene and he used the nail gun to kill all those guys.
That's the one that we missed too. I mean, it's just, I mean, you can't miss anything. The whole movie is damn near rewatchable. But that, nail guns, and then the Snoop nail gun scene in the Wire, nail guns aged really, really well.
Really important device for Snoop. What stage of wears? I had that nail gun scene in what stage of wears. Not the actual scene, but they shoehorn Glover after he kills him and he goes, nailed them both.
It's just like that kind of the worst version of those bad 80s action movies. It's tough to imagine, like, Riggs gets gunned down and Danny Glover's like, your diplomatic immunity has been revoked. Like, your boy is dying. Yeah.
More with stage of wears. The love story, it goes on for like maybe three minutes too long. If you're looking for, this movie is still under two hours, which I think is great. But if you're looking for anywhere to edit, maybe we could have sped that part up a tiny bit faster.
There's a random Donald Trump reference, which just kind of is like, ah! I have my number one choice for what stage of wears, though, is Riggs, especially in this movie, his bullet avoidance strategy of basically just diving on the ground and doing flips. And it's like, that's gonna avoid the machine gun if you just dive forward and roll and jump back up. The gunmen can be like, whoa, what am I shooting at?
Like, I just have no idea. I don't... They film it in a way where it seems like this is such a great maneuver, but I don't know if it would happen. I think he would still get shot, would be my thing.
Fair. I'm just asking. Like, you... I feel like he has more to say about that, you know?
He was in Noms. I think if we work with a rifle, I think a machine gun is where it might go sideways. Because he could just kind of move the machine gun left or right. It's like, oh, that guy's rolling.
I'll now aim it this way. Any other what stage of wears? I just ultimately think, like, it's, it, we don't need the South African guys who have killed Riggs's wife. Bro, fuck your shit, Chris.
Because it's like, she, Patty Kenza is his light at the end of the tunnel. It's like, I am becoming full human again, and then they take that away. And that all makes sense narratively. She's working for them.
They know who she is. They, they kill them, whatever. Him being like, by the way, we have been operating this like criminal conspiracy in and around Long Beach and Los Angeles for years, in which time we killed your wife. Like before Lethal Weapon even started.
And you guys just haven't been able to sniff us out since then. Like, it's just an extra bit of motivation where it's like, if Patty Kenza is killed, I still believe Riggs pulls the house down on stilts. It's not like he needs like that extra bit of a chip on his shoulder. I agree.
And I, Bill knows from the, from the New Jack City podcast, and I hate it when they do that. Like when it's revealed that Nino Brown is actually the one who killed Scotty's mom. I'm just like, come on, bro. Like Nino's bad enough.
We don't need another thing. I do think, though, that maybe the reason why they did that is because Riggs was so attached to his wife that they wanted to give him some closure. Maybe they're, you know what I mean? Yeah.
But there's actually some like kind of like, I like the fact that it might have been just like the one night he doesn't drive her home, she gets into a car accident. I think the story, I think it's more affecting that way, to be honest with you. Yes, I completely agree. And obviously, if I say what is the worst, two things age the worst.
Number one, this movie gotta be that guy. This movie is fucking just like, classic copaganda. They break every single rule. Riggs has zero warrant when he goes into that house.
You know what I mean? Like, they just are. And this is classic copaganda. Every single rule about policing that we're trying to have, they break it down.
And two, I just gotta say it again. Mel, fuck! God damn it! Why am I, that's the last time I'm gonna say it.
Jesus, man. Why, Mel? Why? Why'd you do it, Mel?
Maverick and Maverick 2, all these other movies. I can't fucking even watch Hostage now. Fuck the whole thing up, dude. Keep your fucking shit to yourself.
Damn it. One other thing about the reveal with the wife. That actually just could have been the plot of Lethal Weapon 3. Yes, it could have been.
Yes. They could have just stayed that, tucked it away. Casting what ifs. I only found one, but it is a bombshell.
The original choice to play Leo before Pesci. Our guy. Very near and dear to our hearts here at The Rewatchables. Joey Pants.
Wow. What a conflict. He was doing The Last of the Finest. Yeah, I don't even know what that was.
And couldn't do it. And so Joey Pants, come on Joey Pants. So anyway, he paves the way for the Joe Pesci era. He would have rocked it, to be honest with you.
He would have been great. They also were thinking about DeVito, apparently. Yeah, that doesn't work. Too lovable.
Which leads us to the Joey Pants award for best that guy. So, obviously, Josh Acklin's gonna win. Because I didn't know his name until I saw this movie. But I knew him from Hunt for Red October and this movie and all this.
I just never knew what his name was. Special shout out, though, to Boggs from Shawshank, who gets shot pretty early in this movie by the South Africans. It's great to see Boggs again. He's in Aliens, too, as is Jeanette Goldstein, right?
Is that her name? Yeah. Yeah, Jeanette Goldstein. I gotta be honest with you.
I could make an argument that all the cops are that guy. All of the cops. I mean, not Dean. But it just dawned on me that the female cop that dies on the diving board is Edward Furlong's mother.
And she's Vasquez in Aliens. And Vasquez in Aliens. Yeah, and then the black cop, that guy with the curly hair, he's in Die Hard. He's in Die Hard.
And then one of the other cops is also in Babel. I could argue that all the cops are. There's a lot of that guys in this movie. The person who is competing most with Josh Acklin, though, is Jack McGee, who plays the dude doing the construction on Bert's house.
And is basically... Oh, Jesus. Yeah. He's a good guy.
He's in a hundred different things. He's in the paper. He's in Rescue Me. He's in, like, so many different things.
Vincent Hanna, give me all you got a word for best overacting. The evil bad guy really over-evolves it in a way that I liked and enjoyed. But he definitely dials it up. I think he's our winner.
Also, Riggs went Riggs is in full vengeance mode. I'm not a cop tonight, Roger. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right.
The Deion Waiters award. I think Joe Pesci is eligible and he should win. He's eligible to the extent that I would almost change the name of the award. Yeah, he's so amazing.
Yeah. Recasting couch. I don't know if I would touch this movie. I mean, I guess you could say one of the South African bad guys should be somebody that we know in some way.
Like it could have been, I don't know, some wrestler from the 80s or something. Could have been like the ultimate warrior who's like the fourth South African. But I don't want to nitpick with that. Half-assed internet research.
We pretty much covered everything except for Grand Theft Auto 5. Pretty iconic video game. One of the main protagonists finds out the wife is cheating on him with a tennis coach and then pulls the Lethal Weapon and pulls the house down on stilts as an homage to Lethal Weapon. That was the only new piece of information I found.
Apex Mountain. Gibson, still probably not, but we're... After this movie, he could basically do whatever he wants for the entire 90s. And unfortunately, he could do whatever he wants, which leads to a lot of the Mel Gibson issues we eventually have.
But I would still say it's Braveheart. Glover, I think yes. And this seems like the perfect time for Van to give his, these two movies were bad for Danny Glover theory. Okay, so these movies come out.
Danny Glover is playing an older cop, but he's still actually only like in his 40s. Yep. And I think, so this same decade, Danny Glover had done The Color Purple. He, you Thinking it was a good idea to bring his girlfriend back to her apartment after they just survived this bullet barrage for 20 minutes.
And then he's like, all right, see you guys later. What could go wrong? Why couldn't she stay with Murtaugh's like wife's sister in Bellflower, you know? She works for these terrible South Africans.